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Margaret St John
(Abt 1480 - 27 Aug 1562)
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== Biography ==
'''Margaret St John'''
:'''Parents''': John St John, K.G., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Sybil ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip"John Saint John ... married Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt." (Richardson's ''Royal Ancestry'' Vol. IV, p 534 SAINT JOHN #17):'''born''' in Bedfordshire, EnglandDatafields of WikiTree profile St John-110 as of June 18, 2015
:'''Husband''': Sir Thomas Gamage (or Gammage) of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaff, and St. Morgan's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales.
:'''married''' by settlement dated 1497
:'''Children'''
:Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
*Edmund Gamage*[[Gamage-21|Robert Gamage]], Esq., married (1) Jane (or Joan) [[Champernowne-50|Champernoun]], (2) Katherine *John Gamage, married Jane (or Joan) [[Stradling-64|Stradling]]married (by contract dated August 20, 1516) Jane (or Joan) Stradling, daughter of Edward Stradling. No issue.* Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families,'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 119 - 120
*Morgan Gamage*Katherine Gamage, married Thomas Stradling (son of [[Stradling-29|Sir Edward Stradling]] and his wife [[Arundel-1|Elizabeth Arundel]][http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p481.htm#i14446 Sir Edward Stradling] ([[#Lewis]])) *[[Gamage-31|Mary Gamage]], married [[Herbert-581|Matthew Herbert]]*[[Gamage-7|Margaret Gamage]], married [[Howard-6|William Howard]], K.G.*Elizabeth Gamage, married (1) Richard Wogan, Esq., (2) Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn
Margaret (St John) Gamage died August 27, 1562 in Woburn, Bedfordshire, England.
Sir Thomas Gamage married (2) Joyce Croft, daughter of Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, Herefordshire (no issue). He left a will proved June 26, 1543.
=== Mother Sibyl (or Margred) ferch Morgan ===:Either Sibyl or Margred (or Margred, called Sibyl/Sibyl called Margred). Bartrum and Turner-Thomas have Margred. Richardson has "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip". Her father (John Saint John) is not in question. Bartrum shows that he had a daughter named Margred by both of his wives. The second Margred (by Margred, daughter of Sir David MathewSource: [[#Richardson]]) married John St John. It is more likely that the two mothers shown for Margaret St John were not two different women but the same woman called by different names. And either way, the lineage of Margaret (St John) Gamage stays the same: granddaughter of [[ap_Jenkyn-2|Morgan ap Jenkyn]].
:Richardson shows John Saint John's wife as "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Mathew, Knt. They had three sons... and five daughters... Margaret Saint John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan."''Magna Carta Ancestry'' ([[#Richardson]])
:Lewis shows Margaret's mother as Sybil ferch Morgan (and her only marriage as with John St John).Source: [[#Lewis]]
:Bartrum shows Margaret's mother as "Margred f. Morgan" (not Sybil Morgan). Bartrum also shows Margeret's mother as marrying (2) Tos. Scudamore (after her first marriage to Sir John St John, b 1450, d 1525) with a son born 1472. The source for Sybil as Margaret's mother is [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place], which shows Sybil m John St John and Margred, daughter of Morgan and his first wife Elsbeth, married to Tos. Scudamore.
:from [http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4948/CYDIFOR%20FAWR%2015%28A1%29_394.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y Cydifor Fawr 15(A1)], Bartrum's page for Morgan ap Jenkin:
:: Morgan (living 1448-72) married three times and had two mistresses:
:*Elsbeth f. Sir Roger Vaughan
:*[[Mathew-59|Margred]] f. Dd Mathew
:*unnamed daughter of "Llw Goch ap Ieuan"
:*unnamed daughter of "Wm Kemeys of Cas-newydd" (not married)
:*Denis f. Watkin Vaughan (not married)
:: Margred, second of Morgan's daughters with the name, was the daughter of his second wife [[Mathew-59|Margred]]. Their daughter Margred married (1) Sir John St John, (2) Tos. Scudamore.
: [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place] has the following:[[Noland-165|I]]'ve never been able to find sources for Tudor Place information - am I just missing them?
::Margaret Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1450, Langstone, Llebenydd, Monmouth, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN:*Married: Thomas SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1450) (son of James Scudamore and Eleanor Griffith). Children:
:**Sibilla SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1470) (m. Phillip Baskerville)
:**James SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1472)
::Sybil Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1462, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Jane MATHEW:*Married: John St. JOHN (Sir Knight) ABT 1483, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales. Children:
:**Alice St. JOHN (B. Morley)
:**Margaret St. JOHN
:**Elizabeth St. JOHN
:**Sybil St. JOHN
:**Oliver St. JOHN
:**Alexander St. JOHN (Esq.)
:**Catherine St. JOHN
:**John St. JOHN (Esq.)
== Sources ==
:See also:
* Sources given on husband's profile page ([[Gamage-6|Thomas Gamage]])*[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I56436 Margred St John], Rootsweb entry from the database for [http://celticroyalgenealogy.co.uk/ Celtic Royal Genealogy], the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (from Prof. Evans' book (see next entry) * [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)}
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== Biography ==
'''Margaret St John'''
:'''Parents''': John St John, K.G., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Sybil ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip"John Saint John ... married Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt." (Richardson's ''Royal Ancestry'' Vol. IV, p 534 SAINT JOHN #17):'''born''' in Bedfordshire, EnglandDatafields of WikiTree profile St John-110 as of June 18, 2015
:'''Husband''': Sir Thomas Gamage (or Gammage) of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaff, and St. Morgan's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales.
:'''married''' by settlement dated 1497
:'''Children'''
:Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
*Edmund Gamage*[[Gamage-21|Robert Gamage]], Esq., married (1) Jane (or Joan) [[Champernowne-50|Champernoun]], (2) Katherine *John Gamage, married Jane (or Joan) [[Stradling-64|Stradling]]married (by contract dated August 20, 1516) Jane (or Joan) Stradling, daughter of Edward Stradling. No issue.* Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families,'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 119 - 120
*Morgan Gamage*Katherine Gamage, married Thomas Stradling (son of [[Stradling-29|Sir Edward Stradling]] and his wife [[Arundel-1|Elizabeth Arundel]][http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p481.htm#i14446 Sir Edward Stradling] ([[#Lewis]])) *[[Gamage-31|Mary Gamage]], married [[Herbert-581|Matthew Herbert]]*[[Gamage-7|Margaret Gamage]], married [[Howard-6|William Howard]], K.G.*[[Gamage-104|Elizabeth Gamage]], married (1) Richard Wogan, Esq., (2) Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn
Margaret (St John) Gamage died August 27, 1562 in Woburn, Bedfordshire, England.
Sir Thomas Gamage married (2) Joyce Croft, daughter of Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, Herefordshire (no issue). He left a will proved June 26, 1543.
=== Mother Sibyl (or Margred) ferch Morgan ===:Either Sibyl or Margred (or Margred, called Sibyl/Sibyl called Margred). Bartrum and Turner-Thomas have Margred. Richardson has "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip". Her father (John Saint John) is not in question. Bartrum shows that he had a daughter named Margred by both of his wives. The second Margred (by Margred, daughter of Sir David MathewSource: [[#Richardson]]) married John St John. It is more likely that the two mothers shown for Margaret St John were not two different women but the same woman called by different names. And either way, the lineage of Margaret (St John) Gamage stays the same: granddaughter of [[ap_Jenkyn-2|Morgan ap Jenkyn]].
:Richardson shows John Saint John's wife as "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Mathew, Knt. They had three sons... and five daughters... Margaret Saint John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan."''Magna Carta Ancestry'' ([[#Richardson]])
:Lewis shows Margaret's mother as Sybil ferch Morgan (and her only marriage as with John St John).Source: [[#Lewis]]
:Bartrum shows Margaret's mother as "Margred f. Morgan" (not Sybil Morgan). Bartrum also shows Margeret's mother as marrying (2) Tos. Scudamore (after her first marriage to Sir John St John, b 1450, d 1525) with a son born 1472. The source for Sybil as Margaret's mother is [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place], which shows Sybil m John St John and Margred, daughter of Morgan and his first wife Elsbeth, married to Tos. Scudamore.
:from [http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4948/CYDIFOR%20FAWR%2015%28A1%29_394.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y Cydifor Fawr 15(A1)], Bartrum's page for Morgan ap Jenkin:
:: Morgan (living 1448-72) married three times and had two mistresses:
:*Elsbeth f. Sir Roger Vaughan
:*[[Mathew-59|Margred]] f. Dd Mathew
:*unnamed daughter of "Llw Goch ap Ieuan"
:*unnamed daughter of "Wm Kemeys of Cas-newydd" (not married)
:*Denis f. Watkin Vaughan (not married)
:: Margred, second of Morgan's daughters with the name, was the daughter of his second wife [[Mathew-59|Margred]]. Their daughter Margred married (1) Sir John St John, (2) Tos. Scudamore.
: [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place] has the following:[[Noland-165|I]]'ve never been able to find sources for Tudor Place information - am I just missing them?
::Margaret Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1450, Langstone, Llebenydd, Monmouth, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN:*Married: Thomas SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1450) (son of James Scudamore and Eleanor Griffith). Children:
:**Sibilla SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1470) (m. Phillip Baskerville)
:**James SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1472)
::Sybil Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1462, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Jane MATHEW:*Married: John St. JOHN (Sir Knight) ABT 1483, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales. Children:
:**Alice St. JOHN (B. Morley)
:**Margaret St. JOHN
:**Elizabeth St. JOHN
:**Sybil St. JOHN
:**Oliver St. JOHN
:**Alexander St. JOHN (Esq.)
:**Catherine St. JOHN
:**John St. JOHN (Esq.)
== Sources ==
:See also:
* Sources given on husband's profile page ([[Gamage-6|Thomas Gamage]])*[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I56436 Margred St John], Rootsweb entry from the database for [http://celticroyalgenealogy.co.uk/ Celtic Royal Genealogy], the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (from Prof. Evans' book (see next entry) * [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)
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== Biography ==
'''Margaret St John'''
:'''Parents''': John St John, K.G., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Sybil ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip"John Saint John ... married Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt." (Richardson's ''Royal Ancestry'' Vol. IV, p 534 SAINT JOHN #17):'''born''' in Bedfordshire, EnglandDatafields of WikiTree profile St John-110 as of June 18, 2015
:'''Husband''': Sir Thomas Gamage (or Gammage) of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaff, and St. Morgan's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales.
:'''married''' by settlement dated 1497
:'''Children'''
:Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
*Edmund Gamage*[[Gamage-21|Robert Gamage]], Esq., married (1) Jane (or Joan) [[Champernowne-50|Champernoun]], (2) Katherine *John Gamage, married Jane (or Joan) [[Stradling-64|Stradling]]married (by contract dated August 20, 1516) Jane (or Joan) Stradling, daughter of Edward Stradling. No issue.* Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families,'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 119 - 120
*Morgan Gamage*Katherine Gamage, married Thomas Stradling (son of [[Stradling-29|Sir Edward Stradling]] and his wife [[Arundel-1|Elizabeth Arundel]][http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p481.htm#i14446 Sir Edward Stradling] ([[#Lewis]])) *[[Gamage-31|Mary Gamage]], married [[Herbert-581|Matthew Herbert]]*[[Gamage-7|Margaret Gamage]], married [[Howard-6|William Howard]], K.G.*[[Gamage-104|Elizabeth Gamage]], married (1) Richard Wogan, Esq., (2) Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn
Margaret (St John) Gamage died August 27, 1562 in Woburn, Bedfordshire, England.
Sir Thomas Gamage married (2) Joyce Croft, daughter of Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, Herefordshire (no issue). He left a will proved June 26, 1543.
=== Mother Sibyl (or Margred) ferch Morgan ===:Either Sibyl or Margred (or Margred, called Sibyl/Sibyl called Margred). Bartrum and Turner-Thomas have Margred. Richardson has "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip". Her father (John Saint John) is not in question. Bartrum shows that he had a daughter named Margred by both of his wives. The second Margred (by Margred, daughter of Sir David MathewSource: [[#Richardson]]) married John St John. It is more likely that the two mothers shown for Margaret St John were not two different women but the same woman called by different names. And either way, the lineage of Margaret (St John) Gamage stays the same: granddaughter of [[ap_Jenkyn-2|Morgan ap Jenkyn]].
:Richardson shows John Saint John's wife as "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Mathew, Knt. They had three sons... and five daughters... Margaret Saint John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan."''Magna Carta Ancestry'' ([[#Richardson]])
:Lewis shows Margaret's mother as Sybil ferch Morgan (and her only marriage as with John St John).Source: [[#Lewis]]
:Bartrum shows Margaret's mother as "Margred f. Morgan" (not Sybil Morgan). Bartrum also shows Margeret's mother as marrying (2) Tos. Scudamore (after her first marriage to Sir John St John, b 1450, d 1525) with a son born 1472. The source for Sybil as Margaret's mother is [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place], which shows Sybil m John St John and Margred, daughter of Morgan and his first wife Elsbeth, married to Tos. Scudamore.
:from [http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4948/CYDIFOR%20FAWR%2015%28A1%29_394.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y Cydifor Fawr 15(A1)], Bartrum's page for Morgan ap Jenkin:
:: Morgan (living 1448-72) married three times and had two mistresses:
:*Elsbeth f. Sir Roger Vaughan
:*[[Mathew-59|Margred]] f. Dd Mathew
:*unnamed daughter of "Llw Goch ap Ieuan"
:*unnamed daughter of "Wm Kemeys of Cas-newydd" (not married)
:*Denis f. Watkin Vaughan (not married)
:: Margred, second of Morgan's daughters with the name, was the daughter of his second wife [[Mathew-59|Margred]]. Their daughter Margred married (1) Sir John St John, (2) Tos. Scudamore.
: [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place] has the following:[[Noland-165|I]]'ve never been able to find sources for Tudor Place information - am I just missing them?
::Margaret Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1450, Langstone, Llebenydd, Monmouth, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN:*Married: Thomas SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1450) (son of James Scudamore and Eleanor Griffith). Children:
:**Sibilla SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1470) (m. Phillip Baskerville)
:**James SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1472)
::Sybil Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1462, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Jane MATHEW:*Married: John St. JOHN (Sir Knight) ABT 1483, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales. Children:
:**Alice St. JOHN (B. Morley)
:**Margaret St. JOHN
:**Elizabeth St. JOHN
:**Sybil St. JOHN
:**Oliver St. JOHN
:**Alexander St. JOHN (Esq.)
:**Catherine St. JOHN
:**John St. JOHN (Esq.)
== Sources ==
:See also:
* Sources given on husband's profile page ([[Gamage-6|Thomas Gamage]])*[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I56436 Margred St John], Rootsweb entry from the database for [http://celticroyalgenealogy.co.uk/ Celtic Royal Genealogy], the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (from Prof. Evans' book (see next entry) * [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)}
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== Biography ==
'''Margaret St John'''
:'''Parents''': John St John, K.G., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Sybil ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip"John Saint John ... married Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt." (Richardson's ''Royal Ancestry'' Vol. IV, p 534 SAINT JOHN #17):'''born''' in Bedfordshire, EnglandDatafields of WikiTree profile St John-110 as of June 18, 2015
:'''Husband''': Sir Thomas Gamage (or Gammage) of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaff, and St. Morgan's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales.
:'''married''' by settlement dated 1497
:'''Children'''
:Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
*Edmund Gamage*[[Gamage-21|Robert Gamage]], Esq., married (1) Jane (or Joan) [[Champernowne-50|Champernoun]], (2) Katherine *John Gamage, married Jane (or Joan) [[Stradling-64|Stradling]]married (by contract dated August 20, 1516) Jane (or Joan) Stradling, daughter of Edward Stradling. No issue.* Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families,'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 119 - 120
*Morgan Gamage*Katherine Gamage, married Thomas Stradling (son of [[Stradling-29|Sir Edward Stradling]] and his wife [[Arundel-1|Elizabeth Arundel]][http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p481.htm#i14446 Sir Edward Stradling] ([[#Lewis]])) *[[Gamage-31|Mary Gamage]], married [[Herbert-581|Matthew Herbert]]*[[Gamage-7|Margaret Gamage]], married [[Howard-6|William Howard]], K.G.*[[Gamage-104|Elizabeth Gamage]], married (1) Richard Wogan, Esq., (2) Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn
Margaret (St John) Gamage died August 27, 1562 in Woburn, Bedfordshire, England.
Sir Thomas Gamage married (2) Joyce Croft, daughter of Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, Herefordshire (no issue). He left a will proved June 26, 1543.
=== Mother Sibyl (or Margred) ferch Morgan ===:Either Sibyl or Margred (or Margred, called Sibyl/Sibyl called Margred). Bartrum and Turner-Thomas have Margred. Richardson has "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip". Her father (John Saint John) is not in question. Bartrum shows that he had a daughter named Margred by both of his wives. The second Margred (by Margred, daughter of Sir David MathewSource: [[#Richardson]]) married John St John. It is more likely that the two mothers shown for Margaret St John were not two different women but the same woman called by different names. And either way, the lineage of Margaret (St John) Gamage stays the same: granddaughter of [[ap_Jenkyn-2|Morgan ap Jenkyn]].
:Richardson shows John Saint John's wife as "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Mathew, Knt. They had three sons... and five daughters... Margaret Saint John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan."''Magna Carta Ancestry'' ([[#Richardson]])
:Lewis shows Margaret's mother as Sybil ferch Morgan (and her only marriage as with John St John).Source: [[#Lewis]]
:Bartrum shows Margaret's mother as "Margred f. Morgan" (not Sybil Morgan). Bartrum also shows Margeret's mother as marrying (2) Tos. Scudamore (after her first marriage to Sir John St John, b 1450, d 1525) with a son born 1472. The source for Sybil as Margaret's mother is [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place], which shows Sybil m John St John and Margred, daughter of Morgan and his first wife Elsbeth, married to Tos. Scudamore.
:from [http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4948/CYDIFOR%20FAWR%2015%28A1%29_394.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y Cydifor Fawr 15(A1)], Bartrum's page for Morgan ap Jenkin:
:: Morgan (living 1448-72) married three times and had two mistresses:
:*Elsbeth f. Sir Roger Vaughan
:*[[Mathew-59|Margred]] f. Dd Mathew
:*unnamed daughter of "Llw Goch ap Ieuan"
:*unnamed daughter of "Wm Kemeys of Cas-newydd" (not married)
:*Denis f. Watkin Vaughan (not married)
:: Margred, second of Morgan's daughters with the name, was the daughter of his second wife [[Mathew-59|Margred]]. Their daughter Margred married (1) Sir John St John, (2) Tos. Scudamore.
: [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place] has the following:[[Noland-165|I]]'ve never been able to find sources for Tudor Place information - am I just missing them?
::Margaret Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1450, Langstone, Llebenydd, Monmouth, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN:*Married: Thomas SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1450) (son of James Scudamore and Eleanor Griffith). Children:
:**Sibilla SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1470) (m. Phillip Baskerville)
:**James SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1472)
::Sybil Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1462, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Jane MATHEW:*Married: John St. JOHN (Sir Knight) ABT 1483, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales. Children:
:**Alice St. JOHN (B. Morley)
:**Margaret St. JOHN
:**Elizabeth St. JOHN
:**Sybil St. JOHN
:**Oliver St. JOHN
:**Alexander St. JOHN (Esq.)
:**Catherine St. JOHN
:**John St. JOHN (Esq.)
== Sources ==
:See also:
* Sources given on husband's profile page ([[Gamage-6|Thomas Gamage]])*[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I56436 Margred St John], Rootsweb entry from the database for [http://celticroyalgenealogy.co.uk/ Celtic Royal Genealogy], the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (from Prof. Evans' book (see next entry) * [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)
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== Biography ==
'''Margaret St John'''
:'''Parents''': John St John, K.G., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Sybil ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip"John Saint John ... married Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt." (Richardson's ''Royal Ancestry'' Vol. IV, p 534 SAINT JOHN #17):'''born''' in Bedfordshire, EnglandDatafields of WikiTree profile St John-110 as of June 18, 2015
:'''Husband''': Sir Thomas Gamage (or Gammage) of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaff, and St. Morgan's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales.
:'''married''' by settlement dated 1497
:'''Children'''
:Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
*Edmund Gamage*[[Gamage-21|Robert Gamage]], Esq., married (1) Jane (or Joan) [[Champernowne-50|Champernoun]], (2) Katherine *John Gamage, married Jane (or Joan) [[Stradling-64|Stradling]]married (by contract dated August 20, 1516) Jane (or Joan) Stradling, daughter of Edward Stradling. No issue.* Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families,'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 119 - 120
*Morgan Gamage*Katherine Gamage, married Thomas Stradling (son of [[Stradling-29|Sir Edward Stradling]] and his wife [[Arundel-1|Elizabeth Arundel]][http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p481.htm#i14446 Sir Edward Stradling] ([[#Lewis]])) *[[Gamage-31|Mary Gamage]], married [[Herbert-581|Matthew Herbert]]*[[Gamage-7|Margaret Gamage]], married [[Howard-6|William Howard]], K.G.*[[Gamage-104|Elizabeth Gamage]], married (1) Richard Wogan, Esq., (2) Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn
Margaret (St John) Gamage died August 27, 1562 in Woburn, Bedfordshire, England.
Sir Thomas Gamage married (2) Joyce Croft, daughter of Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, Herefordshire (no issue). He left a will proved June 26, 1543.
=== Mother Sibyl (or Margred) ferch Morgan ===:Either Sibyl or Margred (or Margred, called Sibyl/Sibyl called Margred). Bartrum and Turner-Thomas have Margred. Richardson has "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip". Her father (John Saint John) is not in question. Bartrum shows that he had a daughter named Margred by both of his wives. The second Margred (by Margred, daughter of Sir David MathewSource: [[#Richardson]]) married John St John. It is more likely that the two mothers shown for Margaret St John were not two different women but the same woman called by different names. And either way, the lineage of Margaret (St John) Gamage stays the same: granddaughter of [[ap_Jenkyn-2|Morgan ap Jenkyn]].
:Richardson shows John Saint John's wife as "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Mathew, Knt. They had three sons... and five daughters... Margaret Saint John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan."''Magna Carta Ancestry'' ([[#Richardson]])
:Lewis shows Margaret's mother as Sybil ferch Morgan (and her only marriage as with John St John).Source: [[#Lewis]]
:Bartrum shows Margaret's mother as "Margred f. Morgan" (not Sybil Morgan). Bartrum also shows Margeret's mother as marrying (2) Tos. Scudamore (after her first marriage to Sir John St John, b 1450, d 1525) with a son born 1472. The source for Sybil as Margaret's mother is [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place], which shows Sybil m John St John and Margred, daughter of Morgan and his first wife Elsbeth, married to Tos. Scudamore.
:from [http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4948/CYDIFOR%20FAWR%2015%28A1%29_394.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y Cydifor Fawr 15(A1)], Bartrum's page for Morgan ap Jenkin:
:: Morgan (living 1448-72) married three times and had two mistresses:
:*Elsbeth f. Sir Roger Vaughan
:*[[Mathew-59|Margred]] f. Dd Mathew
:*unnamed daughter of "Llw Goch ap Ieuan"
:*unnamed daughter of "Wm Kemeys of Cas-newydd" (not married)
:*Denis f. Watkin Vaughan (not married)
:: Margred, second of Morgan's daughters with the name, was the daughter of his second wife [[Mathew-59|Margred]]. Their daughter Margred married (1) Sir John St John, (2) Tos. Scudamore.
: [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place] has the following:[[Noland-165|I]]'ve never been able to find sources for Tudor Place information - am I just missing them?
::Margaret Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1450, Langstone, Llebenydd, Monmouth, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN:*Married: Thomas SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1450) (son of James Scudamore and Eleanor Griffith). Children:
:**Sibilla SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1470) (m. Phillip Baskerville)
:**James SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1472)
::Sybil Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1462, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Jane MATHEW:*Married: John St. JOHN (Sir Knight) ABT 1483, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales. Children:
:**Alice St. JOHN (B. Morley)
:**Margaret St. JOHN
:**Elizabeth St. JOHN
:**Sybil St. JOHN
:**Oliver St. JOHN
:**Alexander St. JOHN (Esq.)
:**Catherine St. JOHN
:**John St. JOHN (Esq.)
== Sources ==
:See also:
* Sources given on husband's profile page ([[Gamage-6|Thomas Gamage]])*[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I56436 Margred St John], Rootsweb entry from the database for [http://celticroyalgenealogy.co.uk/ Celtic Royal Genealogy], the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (from Prof. Evans' book (see next entry) * [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)
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== Biography ==
'''Margaret St John'''
:'''Parents''': John St John, K.G., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Sybil ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip"John Saint John ... married Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt." (Richardson's ''Royal Ancestry'' Vol. IV, p 534 SAINT JOHN #17):'''born''' in Bedfordshire, EnglandDatafields of WikiTree profile St John-110 as of June 18, 2015
:'''Husband''': Sir Thomas Gamage (or Gammage) of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaff, and St. Morgan's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales.
:'''married''' by settlement dated 1497
:'''Children'''
:Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
*Edmund Gamage*[[Gamage-21|Robert Gamage]], Esq., married (1) Jane (or Joan) [[Champernowne-50|Champernoun]], (2) Katherine *John Gamage, married Jane (or Joan) [[Stradling-64|Stradling]]married (by contract dated August 20, 1516) Jane (or Joan) Stradling, daughter of Edward Stradling. No issue.* Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families,'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 119 - 120
*Morgan Gamage*Katherine Gamage, married Thomas Stradling (son of [[Stradling-29|Sir Edward Stradling]] and his wife [[Arundel-1|Elizabeth Arundel]][http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p481.htm#i14446 Sir Edward Stradling] ([[#Lewis]])) *[[Gamage-31|Mary Gamage]], married [[Herbert-581|Matthew Herbert]]*[[Gamage-7|Margaret Gamage]], married [[Howard-6|William Howard]], K.G.*Elizabeth Gamage, married (1) Richard Wogan, Esq., (2) Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn
Margaret (St John) Gamage died August 27, 1562 in Woburn, Bedfordshire, England.
Sir Thomas Gamage married (2) Joyce Croft, daughter of Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, Herefordshire (no issue). He left a will proved June 26, 1543.
=== Mother Sibyl (or Margred) ferch Morgan ===:Either Sibyl or Margred (or Margred, called Sibyl/Sibyl called Margred). Bartrum and Turner-Thomas have Margred. Richardson has "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip". Her father (John Saint John) is not in question. Bartrum shows that he had a daughter named Margred by both of his wives. The second Margred (by Margred, daughter of Sir David MathewSource: [[#Richardson]]) married John St John. It is more likely that the two mothers shown for Margaret St John were not two different women but the same woman called by different names. And either way, the lineage of Margaret (St John) Gamage stays the same: granddaughter of [[ap_Jenkyn-2|Morgan ap Jenkyn]].
:Richardson shows John Saint John's wife as "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Mathew, Knt. They had three sons... and five daughters... Margaret Saint John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan."''Magna Carta Ancestry'' ([[#Richardson]])
:Lewis shows Margaret's mother as Sybil ferch Morgan (and her only marriage as with John St John).Source: [[#Lewis]]
:Bartrum shows Margaret's mother as "Margred f. Morgan" (not Sybil Morgan). Bartrum also shows Margeret's mother as marrying (2) Tos. Scudamore (after her first marriage to Sir John St John, b 1450, d 1525) with a son born 1472. The source for Sybil as Margaret's mother is [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place], which shows Sybil m John St John and Margred, daughter of Morgan and his first wife Elsbeth, married to Tos. Scudamore.
:from [http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4948/CYDIFOR%20FAWR%2015%28A1%29_394.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y Cydifor Fawr 15(A1)], Bartrum's page for Morgan ap Jenkin:
:: Morgan (living 1448-72) married three times and had two mistresses:
:*Elsbeth f. Sir Roger Vaughan
:*[[Mathew-59|Margred]] f. Dd Mathew
:*unnamed daughter of "Llw Goch ap Ieuan"
:*unnamed daughter of "Wm Kemeys of Cas-newydd" (not married)
:*Denis f. Watkin Vaughan (not married)
:: Margred, second of Morgan's daughters with the name, was the daughter of his second wife [[Mathew-59|Margred]]. Their daughter Margred married (1) Sir John St John, (2) Tos. Scudamore.
: [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place] has the following:[[Noland-165|I]]'ve never been able to find sources for Tudor Place information - am I just missing them?
::Margaret Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1450, Langstone, Llebenydd, Monmouth, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN:*Married: Thomas SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1450) (son of James Scudamore and Eleanor Griffith). Children:
:**Sibilla SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1470) (m. Phillip Baskerville)
:**James SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1472)
::Sybil Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1462, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Jane MATHEW:*Married: John St. JOHN (Sir Knight) ABT 1483, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales. Children:
:**Alice St. JOHN (B. Morley)
:**Margaret St. JOHN
:**Elizabeth St. JOHN
:**Sybil St. JOHN
:**Oliver St. JOHN
:**Alexander St. JOHN (Esq.)
:**Catherine St. JOHN
:**John St. JOHN (Esq.)
== Sources ==
:See also:
* Sources given on husband's profile page ([[Gamage-6|Thomas Gamage]])*[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I56436 Margred St John], Rootsweb entry from the database for [http://celticroyalgenealogy.co.uk/ Celtic Royal Genealogy], the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (from Prof. Evans' book (see next entry) * [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)}
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== Biography ==
'''Margaret St John'''
:'''Parents''': John St John, K.G., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Sybil ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip"John Saint John ... married Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt." (Richardson's ''Royal Ancestry'' Vol. IV, p 534 SAINT JOHN #17):'''born''' in Bedfordshire, EnglandDatafields of WikiTree profile St John-110 as of June 18, 2015
:'''Husband''': Sir Thomas Gamage (or Gammage) of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaff, and St. Morgan's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales.
:'''married''' by settlement dated 1497
:'''Children'''
:Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
*Edmund Gamage*[[Gamage-21|Robert Gamage]], Esq., married (1) Jane (or Joan) [[Champernowne-50|Champernoun]], (2) Katherine *John Gamage, married Jane (or Joan) [[Stradling-64|Stradling]]married (by contract dated August 20, 1516) Jane (or Joan) Stradling, daughter of Edward Stradling. No issue.* Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families,'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 119 - 120
*Morgan Gamage*Katherine Gamage, married Thomas Stradling (son of [[Stradling-29|Sir Edward Stradling]] and his wife [[Arundel-1|Elizabeth Arundel]][http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p481.htm#i14446 Sir Edward Stradling] ([[#Lewis]])) *[[Gamage-31|Mary Gamage]], married [[Herbert-581|Matthew Herbert]]*[[Gamage-7|Margaret Gamage]], married [[Howard-6|William Howard]], K.G.*[[Gamage-104|Elizabeth Gamage]], married (1) Richard Wogan, Esq., (2) Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn
Margaret (St John) Gamage died August 27, 1562 in Woburn, Bedfordshire, England.
Sir Thomas Gamage married (2) Joyce Croft, daughter of Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, Herefordshire (no issue). He left a will proved June 26, 1543.
=== Mother Sibyl (or Margred) ferch Morgan ===:Either Sibyl or Margred (or Margred, called Sibyl/Sibyl called Margred). Bartrum and Turner-Thomas have Margred. Richardson has "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip". Her father (John Saint John) is not in question. Bartrum shows that he had a daughter named Margred by both of his wives. The second Margred (by Margred, daughter of Sir David MathewSource: [[#Richardson]]) married John St John. It is more likely that the two mothers shown for Margaret St John were not two different women but the same woman called by different names. And either way, the lineage of Margaret (St John) Gamage stays the same: granddaughter of [[ap_Jenkyn-2|Morgan ap Jenkyn]].
:Richardson shows John Saint John's wife as "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Mathew, Knt. They had three sons... and five daughters... Margaret Saint John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan."''Magna Carta Ancestry'' ([[#Richardson]])
:Lewis shows Margaret's mother as Sybil ferch Morgan (and her only marriage as with John St John).Source: [[#Lewis]]
:Bartrum shows Margaret's mother as "Margred f. Morgan" (not Sybil Morgan). Bartrum also shows Margeret's mother as marrying (2) Tos. Scudamore (after her first marriage to Sir John St John, b 1450, d 1525) with a son born 1472. The source for Sybil as Margaret's mother is [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place], which shows Sybil m John St John and Margred, daughter of Morgan and his first wife Elsbeth, married to Tos. Scudamore.
:from [http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4948/CYDIFOR%20FAWR%2015%28A1%29_394.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y Cydifor Fawr 15(A1)], Bartrum's page for Morgan ap Jenkin:
:: Morgan (living 1448-72) married three times and had two mistresses:
:*Elsbeth f. Sir Roger Vaughan
:*[[Mathew-59|Margred]] f. Dd Mathew
:*unnamed daughter of "Llw Goch ap Ieuan"
:*unnamed daughter of "Wm Kemeys of Cas-newydd" (not married)
:*Denis f. Watkin Vaughan (not married)
:: Margred, second of Morgan's daughters with the name, was the daughter of his second wife [[Mathew-59|Margred]]. Their daughter Margred married (1) Sir John St John, (2) Tos. Scudamore.
: [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place] has the following:[[Noland-165|I]]'ve never been able to find sources for Tudor Place information - am I just missing them?
::Margaret Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1450, Langstone, Llebenydd, Monmouth, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN:*Married: Thomas SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1450) (son of James Scudamore and Eleanor Griffith). Children:
:**Sibilla SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1470) (m. Phillip Baskerville)
:**James SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1472)
::Sybil Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1462, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Jane MATHEW:*Married: John St. JOHN (Sir Knight) ABT 1483, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales. Children:
:**Alice St. JOHN (B. Morley)
:**Margaret St. JOHN
:**Elizabeth St. JOHN
:**Sybil St. JOHN
:**Oliver St. JOHN
:**Alexander St. JOHN (Esq.)
:**Catherine St. JOHN
:**John St. JOHN (Esq.)
== Sources ==
:See also:
* Sources given on husband's profile page ([[Gamage-6|Thomas Gamage]])*[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I56436 Margred St John], Rootsweb entry from the database for [http://celticroyalgenealogy.co.uk/ Celtic Royal Genealogy], the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (from Prof. Evans' book (see next entry) * [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)
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== Biography ==
'''Margaret St John'''
:'''Parents''': John St John, K.G., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Sybil ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip"John Saint John ... married Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt." (Richardson's ''Royal Ancestry'' Vol. IV, p 534 SAINT JOHN #17):'''born''' in Bedfordshire, EnglandDatafields of WikiTree profile St John-110 as of June 18, 2015
:'''Husband''': Sir Thomas Gamage (or Gammage) of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaff, and St. Morgan's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales.
:'''married''' by settlement dated 1497
:'''Children'''
:Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
*Edmund Gamage*[[Gamage-21|Robert Gamage]], Esq., married (1) Jane (or Joan) [[Champernowne-50|Champernoun]], (2) Katherine *John Gamage, married Jane (or Joan) [[Stradling-64|Stradling]]married (by contract dated August 20, 1516) Jane (or Joan) Stradling, daughter of Edward Stradling. No issue.* Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families,'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 119 - 120
*Morgan Gamage*Katherine Gamage, married Thomas Stradling (son of [[Stradling-29|Sir Edward Stradling]] and his wife [[Arundel-1|Elizabeth Arundel]][http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p481.htm#i14446 Sir Edward Stradling] ([[#Lewis]])) *[[Gamage-31|Mary Gamage]], married [[Herbert-581|Matthew Herbert]]*[[Gamage-7|Margaret Gamage]], married [[Howard-6|William Howard]], K.G.*[[Gamage-104|Elizabeth Gamage]], married (1) Richard Wogan, Esq., (2) Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn
Margaret (St John) Gamage died August 27, 1562 in Woburn, Bedfordshire, England.
Sir Thomas Gamage married (2) Joyce Croft, daughter of Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, Herefordshire (no issue). He left a will proved June 26, 1543.
=== Mother Sibyl (or Margred) ferch Morgan ===:Either Sibyl or Margred (or Margred, called Sibyl/Sibyl called Margred). Bartrum and Turner-Thomas have Margred. Richardson has "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip". Her father (John Saint John) is not in question. Bartrum shows that he had a daughter named Margred by both of his wives. The second Margred (by Margred, daughter of Sir David MathewSource: [[#Richardson]]) married John St John. It is more likely that the two mothers shown for Margaret St John were not two different women but the same woman called by different names. And either way, the lineage of Margaret (St John) Gamage stays the same: granddaughter of [[ap_Jenkyn-2|Morgan ap Jenkyn]].
:Richardson shows John Saint John's wife as "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Mathew, Knt. They had three sons... and five daughters... Margaret Saint John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan."''Magna Carta Ancestry'' ([[#Richardson]])
:Lewis shows Margaret's mother as Sybil ferch Morgan (and her only marriage as with John St John).Source: [[#Lewis]]
:Bartrum shows Margaret's mother as "Margred f. Morgan" (not Sybil Morgan). Bartrum also shows Margeret's mother as marrying (2) Tos. Scudamore (after her first marriage to Sir John St John, b 1450, d 1525) with a son born 1472. The source for Sybil as Margaret's mother is [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place], which shows Sybil m John St John and Margred, daughter of Morgan and his first wife Elsbeth, married to Tos. Scudamore.
:from [http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4948/CYDIFOR%20FAWR%2015%28A1%29_394.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y Cydifor Fawr 15(A1)], Bartrum's page for Morgan ap Jenkin:
:: Morgan (living 1448-72) married three times and had two mistresses:
:*Elsbeth f. Sir Roger Vaughan
:*[[Mathew-59|Margred]] f. Dd Mathew
:*unnamed daughter of "Llw Goch ap Ieuan"
:*unnamed daughter of "Wm Kemeys of Cas-newydd" (not married)
:*Denis f. Watkin Vaughan (not married)
:: Margred, second of Morgan's daughters with the name, was the daughter of his second wife [[Mathew-59|Margred]]. Their daughter Margred married (1) Sir John St John, (2) Tos. Scudamore.
: [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place] has the following:[[Noland-165|I]]'ve never been able to find sources for Tudor Place information - am I just missing them?
::Margaret Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1450, Langstone, Llebenydd, Monmouth, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN:*Married: Thomas SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1450) (son of James Scudamore and Eleanor Griffith). Children:
:**Sibilla SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1470) (m. Phillip Baskerville)
:**James SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1472)
::Sybil Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1462, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Jane MATHEW:*Married: John St. JOHN (Sir Knight) ABT 1483, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales. Children:
:**Alice St. JOHN (B. Morley)
:**Margaret St. JOHN
:**Elizabeth St. JOHN
:**Sybil St. JOHN
:**Oliver St. JOHN
:**Alexander St. JOHN (Esq.)
:**Catherine St. JOHN
:**John St. JOHN (Esq.)
== Sources ==
:See also:
* Sources given on husband's profile page ([[Gamage-6|Thomas Gamage]])*[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I56436 Margred St John], Rootsweb entry from the database for [http://celticroyalgenealogy.co.uk/ Celtic Royal Genealogy], the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (from Prof. Evans' book (see next entry) * [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)}
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== Biography ==
'''Margaret St John'''
:'''Parents''': John St John, K.G., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Sybil ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip"John Saint John ... married Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt." (Richardson's ''Royal Ancestry'' Vol. IV, p 534 SAINT JOHN #17):'''born''' in Bedfordshire, EnglandDatafields of WikiTree profile St John-110 as of June 18, 2015
:'''Husband''': Sir Thomas Gamage (or Gammage) of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaff, and St. Morgan's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales.
:'''married''' by settlement dated 1497
:'''Children'''
:Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
*Edmund Gamage*[[Gamage-21|Robert Gamage]], Esq., married (1) Jane (or Joan) [[Champernowne-50|Champernoun]], (2) Katherine *John Gamage, married Jane (or Joan) [[Stradling-64|Stradling]]married (by contract dated August 20, 1516) Jane (or Joan) Stradling, daughter of Edward Stradling. No issue.* Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families,'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 119 - 120
*Morgan Gamage*Katherine Gamage, married Thomas Stradling (son of [[Stradling-29|Sir Edward Stradling]] and his wife [[Arundel-1|Elizabeth Arundel]][http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p481.htm#i14446 Sir Edward Stradling] ([[#Lewis]])) *[[Gamage-31|Mary Gamage]], married [[Herbert-581|Matthew Herbert]]*[[Gamage-7|Margaret Gamage]], married [[Howard-6|William Howard]], K.G.*[[Gamage-104|Elizabeth Gamage]], married (1) Richard Wogan, Esq., (2) Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn
Margaret (St John) Gamage died August 27, 1562 in Woburn, Bedfordshire, England.
Sir Thomas Gamage married (2) Joyce Croft, daughter of Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, Herefordshire (no issue). He left a will proved June 26, 1543.
=== Mother Sibyl (or Margred) ferch Morgan ===:Either Sibyl or Margred (or Margred, called Sibyl/Sibyl called Margred). Bartrum and Turner-Thomas have Margred. Richardson has "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip". Her father (John Saint John) is not in question. Bartrum shows that he had a daughter named Margred by both of his wives. The second Margred (by Margred, daughter of Sir David MathewSource: [[#Richardson]]) married John St John. It is more likely that the two mothers shown for Margaret St John were not two different women but the same woman called by different names. And either way, the lineage of Margaret (St John) Gamage stays the same: granddaughter of [[ap_Jenkyn-2|Morgan ap Jenkyn]].
:Richardson shows John Saint John's wife as "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Mathew, Knt. They had three sons... and five daughters... Margaret Saint John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan."''Magna Carta Ancestry'' ([[#Richardson]])
:Lewis shows Margaret's mother as Sybil ferch Morgan (and her only marriage as with John St John).Source: [[#Lewis]]
:Bartrum shows Margaret's mother as "Margred f. Morgan" (not Sybil Morgan). Bartrum also shows Margeret's mother as marrying (2) Tos. Scudamore (after her first marriage to Sir John St John, b 1450, d 1525) with a son born 1472. The source for Sybil as Margaret's mother is [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place], which shows Sybil m John St John and Margred, daughter of Morgan and his first wife Elsbeth, married to Tos. Scudamore.
:from [http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4948/CYDIFOR%20FAWR%2015%28A1%29_394.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y Cydifor Fawr 15(A1)], Bartrum's page for Morgan ap Jenkin:
:: Morgan (living 1448-72) married three times and had two mistresses:
:*Elsbeth f. Sir Roger Vaughan
:*[[Mathew-59|Margred]] f. Dd Mathew
:*unnamed daughter of "Llw Goch ap Ieuan"
:*unnamed daughter of "Wm Kemeys of Cas-newydd" (not married)
:*Denis f. Watkin Vaughan (not married)
:: Margred, second of Morgan's daughters with the name, was the daughter of his second wife [[Mathew-59|Margred]]. Their daughter Margred married (1) Sir John St John, (2) Tos. Scudamore.
: [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place] has the following:[[Noland-165|I]]'ve never been able to find sources for Tudor Place information - am I just missing them?
::Margaret Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1450, Langstone, Llebenydd, Monmouth, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN:*Married: Thomas SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1450) (son of James Scudamore and Eleanor Griffith). Children:
:**Sibilla SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1470) (m. Phillip Baskerville)
:**James SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1472)
::Sybil Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1462, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Jane MATHEW:*Married: John St. JOHN (Sir Knight) ABT 1483, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales. Children:
:**Alice St. JOHN (B. Morley)
:**Margaret St. JOHN
:**Elizabeth St. JOHN
:**Sybil St. JOHN
:**Oliver St. JOHN
:**Alexander St. JOHN (Esq.)
:**Catherine St. JOHN
:**John St. JOHN (Esq.)
== Sources ==
:See also:
* Sources given on husband's profile page ([[Gamage-6|Thomas Gamage]])*[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I56436 Margred St John], Rootsweb entry from the database for [http://celticroyalgenealogy.co.uk/ Celtic Royal Genealogy], the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (from Prof. Evans' book (see next entry) * [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)
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== Biography ==
'''Margaret St John'''
:'''Parents''': John St John, K.G., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Sybil ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip"John Saint John ... married Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt." (Richardson's ''Royal Ancestry'' Vol. IV, p 534 SAINT JOHN #17):'''born''' in Bedfordshire, EnglandDatafields of WikiTree profile St John-110 as of June 18, 2015
:'''Husband''': Sir Thomas Gamage (or Gammage) of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaff, and St. Morgan's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales.
:'''married''' by settlement dated 1497
:'''Children'''
:Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
*Edmund Gamage*[[Gamage-21|Robert Gamage]], Esq., married (1) Jane (or Joan) [[Champernowne-50|Champernoun]], (2) Katherine *John Gamage, married Jane (or Joan) [[Stradling-64|Stradling]]married (by contract dated August 20, 1516) Jane (or Joan) Stradling, daughter of Edward Stradling. No issue.* Douglas Richardson, ''Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families,'' Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 119 - 120
*Morgan Gamage*Katherine Gamage, married Thomas Stradling (son of [[Stradling-29|Sir Edward Stradling]] and his wife [[Arundel-1|Elizabeth Arundel]][http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p481.htm#i14446 Sir Edward Stradling] ([[#Lewis]])) *[[Gamage-31|Mary Gamage]], married [[Herbert-581|Matthew Herbert]]*[[Gamage-7|Margaret Gamage]], married [[Howard-6|William Howard]], K.G.*[[Gamage-104|Elizabeth Gamage]], married (1) Richard Wogan, Esq., (2) Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn
Margaret (St John) Gamage died August 27, 1562 in Woburn, Bedfordshire, England.
Sir Thomas Gamage married (2) Joyce Croft, daughter of Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, Herefordshire (no issue). He left a will proved June 26, 1543.
=== Mother Sibyl (or Margred) ferch Morgan ===:Either Sibyl or Margred (or Margred, called Sibyl/Sibyl called Margred). Bartrum and Turner-Thomas have Margred. Richardson has "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip". Her father (John Saint John) is not in question. Bartrum shows that he had a daughter named Margred by both of his wives. The second Margred (by Margred, daughter of Sir David MathewSource: [[#Richardson]]) married John St John. It is more likely that the two mothers shown for Margaret St John were not two different women but the same woman called by different names. And either way, the lineage of Margaret (St John) Gamage stays the same: granddaughter of [[ap_Jenkyn-2|Morgan ap Jenkyn]].
:Richardson shows John Saint John's wife as "Sibyl (or Margaret) ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., of Langstone, Monmouthshire, by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Mathew, Knt. They had three sons... and five daughters... Margaret Saint John, married Thomas Gamage, Knt., of Coity, Glamorgan."''Magna Carta Ancestry'' ([[#Richardson]])
:Lewis shows Margaret's mother as Sybil ferch Morgan (and her only marriage as with John St John).Source: [[#Lewis]]
:Bartrum shows Margaret's mother as "Margred f. Morgan" (not Sybil Morgan). Bartrum also shows Margeret's mother as marrying (2) Tos. Scudamore (after her first marriage to Sir John St John, b 1450, d 1525) with a son born 1472. The source for Sybil as Margaret's mother is [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place], which shows Sybil m John St John and Margred, daughter of Morgan and his first wife Elsbeth, married to Tos. Scudamore.
:from [http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4948/CYDIFOR%20FAWR%2015%28A1%29_394.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y Cydifor Fawr 15(A1)], Bartrum's page for Morgan ap Jenkin:
:: Morgan (living 1448-72) married three times and had two mistresses:
:*Elsbeth f. Sir Roger Vaughan
:*[[Mathew-59|Margred]] f. Dd Mathew
:*unnamed daughter of "Llw Goch ap Ieuan"
:*unnamed daughter of "Wm Kemeys of Cas-newydd" (not married)
:*Denis f. Watkin Vaughan (not married)
:: Margred, second of Morgan's daughters with the name, was the daughter of his second wife [[Mathew-59|Margred]]. Their daughter Margred married (1) Sir John St John, (2) Tos. Scudamore.
: [http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MORGAN.htm#Sybil%20Verch%20MORGAN1 Tudor Place] has the following:[[Noland-165|I]]'ve never been able to find sources for Tudor Place information - am I just missing them?
::Margaret Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1450, Langstone, Llebenydd, Monmouth, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN:*Married: Thomas SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1450) (son of James Scudamore and Eleanor Griffith). Children:
:**Sibilla SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1470) (m. Phillip Baskerville)
:**James SCUDAMORE (b. ABT 1472)
::Sybil Verch MORGAN, Born: ABT 1462, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales to Morgan Ap JENKIN and Jane MATHEW:*Married: John St. JOHN (Sir Knight) ABT 1483, Langstone, Glamorganshire, Wales. Children:
:**Alice St. JOHN (B. Morley)
:**Margaret St. JOHN
:**Elizabeth St. JOHN
:**Sybil St. JOHN
:**Oliver St. JOHN
:**Alexander St. JOHN (Esq.)
:**Catherine St. JOHN
:**John St. JOHN (Esq.)
== Sources ==
:See also:
* Sources given on husband's profile page ([[Gamage-6|Thomas Gamage]])*[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet-t&id=I56436 Margred St John], Rootsweb entry from the database for [http://celticroyalgenealogy.co.uk/ Celtic Royal Genealogy], the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (from Prof. Evans' book (see next entry) * [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)
Events
| Birth | Abt 1480 | Bedfordshire, England | |||
| Death | 27 Aug 1562 | Woburn, Bedfordshire, , England | |||
| Death | 27 Aug 1562 | Woburn, Bedfordshire, England | |||
| Reference No | 2835594 | ||||
| Reference No | 2873284 | ||||
| Reference No | 60 |
Families
| Father | John St. John (1460 - 1525) |
| Mother | Margred ferch Morgan (1462 - 1472) |
| Sibling | Catherine St John (1480 - 1535) |
| Sibling | Alice St John (1484 - 1552) |
| Sibling | Elizabeth St John (1488 - ) |
| Sibling | Sybil St John (1490 - ) |
| Sibling | Oliver St John (1492 - ) |
| Sibling | Alexander St John (1494 - 1551) |
| Sibling | John St John KG MP (1495 - 1562) |
| Father | John St. John (1460 - 1525) |
| Mother | Margred ferch Morgan (1462 - 1524) |
| Sibling | Catherine "Catrin" St John (1496 - 1553) |
| Sibling | Alexander St John (1494 - 1551) |
| Sibling | John St John KG MP (1495 - 1562) |
| Sibling | Alice St John (1484 - 1552) |
| Sibling | Elizabeth St John (1488 - ) |
| Sibling | Sybil St John (1490 - ) |
| Sibling | Oliver St John (1492 - ) |