Individual Details

WILLIAM WISHARD

(17 Sep 1729 - 31 May 1814)



There were Wishards living in Virginia at an earlier time. It is not known if there is any relationship in prior generations. James Wishard rec'd 200 acres in Lower Norfolk Co, Little Crk, on 9 Jun 1678. Granted him 8 Aug 1673, deserted & condemnd but now due for transport of 4 person. CAVALIERS & PIONEERS; Vol II, p.186. On p. 390, 20 Apr 1694, James Wisheart was granted 145 acres in Little Crk precincts, Norfolk Co which had been granted to James Wisheart decd on 8 Aug 1673 and due the abovenamed as his son & heir at law. A Patrick Wishart was listed as one of 15 persons transported by James Peters who received a patent on 20 Apr 1684 in Nansemond Co. CAVALIERS & PIONEERS; Vol II, p.276.

There is often seen a George Wishart as father to William but I believe this to be incorrect. There is a tradition of brothers, Abram who died at sea on the way to America, and Mannis who was already living in Pennsylvania when William and Susannah came. This is unlikely. Apparently the same old "three brothers" story that is myth.

The volumes of the Pennsylvania Archives had interesting entries concerning a William Wishart or Wisheart.
As early as May of 1761 there was a list of subscribers to the Pennsylvania Hospital and William Wishart was listed, Series 8, Vo. VI, p.5345
William Wishart is listed with a distillary in the city of Philadelphia, 1769, Series 3, Vol XIV, p.153 "Proprietary Tax, County of Philadelphia"
Petition for extension of a road to the Germantown Road, 1771. Wm Wishart was a signer. Series 1, Vol VI, p.434
Petitions for a road to be opened for the use of the public, and to make repairs to the road and fences, 1773. Wm Wishart signed. Series 1, Vol X, p.719
An Ann Wishart of Philadelphia, made her Will 11 Dec 1787 and named her brothers as William and Thomas Wishart of Philadelphia. There was land bounded by the estate of Israel Pemberton, dec'd, in Philadelphia. She also listed several "cousins", probably nieces, and a sister Elizabeth Maris. Executor was Thomas Wishart and the will proved 6 Jun 1803. I would think this would eliminate any possibility that this Wishart family in Philadelphia had an kinship to our William Wishard.

Warranties for land in Luzerne Co, 10 Feb 1794. William Wishart, 400 acres. Series 3, Vol XXIV, p.294
And on 1 Jul 1776, William Wisheart, 300 acres, Warranties of land in county of Westmoreland. Series 3, Vol. XXVI, p.520 [This last entry places this man in Westmoreland in time to serve in the Revolution. I would not venture to say whether or not the other entries are for the same person - they would not seem to be if the family traditions are true.]

Birth & Death dates - DAR Index
[Have seen a middle name of Henry but I doubt the middle name; think it's a confusion with the grandson Dr. William Henry Wishard. Few people had middle names this early.]

The traditional story is that William was born in Scotland, then emigrated to Ulster in Ireland. Father-in-law disproved of marriage and after the first son was born they came to America, landing in Pennsylvania in the summer of 1774 where they settled on "the waters of the Brandywine". Sometime after 1777, the family moved to western Pennsylvania and settled at Old Redstone Fort (now Brownsville). Migrated to KY in 1794 by flatboat down the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers. Settled in what is now Nicholas County, KY. Error in land records in KY changed the spelling to Wishard

Laura Milton's notes say: served in Revolutionary War as Sergeant in Capt. Wendel Ivey's Company, Col. John Proctor's Battalion of The Westmoreland County Militia - Western Pennsylvania frontier.
DAR Lineage #58459: "Served as sergeant in Capt. Wendel Ivey's Co., Col. John Proctor's battalion of Westmoreland County militia at Brandywine and Germantown, and in 1779 was commissioned ensign in Capt. William Guthrie's Co. Westmoreland County Militia, service on the frontiers of western Pennsylvania." Gives PA Archives as reference. Also DAR #73990 Ollie Wishard Palmer.

1800 "Second Census of Kentucky" Reconstructed from Tax Records: William Wishard, Nicholas County.
Nicholas Co formed from Bourbon & Mason Co. in 1799
Fleming Co also from from Mason Co - 1798.
Sons William & Samuel are listed in Fleming Co in 1800. There is a Henry Wishartt listed in Nelson Co and a John Wishard in Bracken Co.

1810 Census - the Wishards are found in Fleming County.
William Wishard: 1m under 10, 1m 10-16 [sons by 2nd wife - Andrew & Robert]. 1m over 45 - William himself. 1f over 45 - 2nd wife Elizabeth Rhodes.
Sons William, Samuel & Abraham were also enumerated in Fleming Co in 1810.

Fanciful unproved story from "Susannah and William and Nancy and John: Pioneers"
Born in Scotland, he (William Wishart) left that country in the early 1770's to escape reliqious oppression. He was a devout Presbyterian all his life.
He went to County Tyrone, near Ulster, Ireland, where, although he was a weaver by trade, he found employment as a coachman with another Scot, Laird Lytle, who lived on a large estate with his wife, the Lady Jane Stuart, and their children.
They had a beautiful daughter named Susannah, with whom William promptly fell in love. She reciprocated his love but their romance was vigorously opposed by her parents. William was 24 years older than their daughter, besides being just a coachman.
Undaunted, the young couple eloped and were clandestinely married. A brother of Susannah's pursued them; intending to kill Wishart. The bridegroom escaped but Susannah was taken home, in tears, and kept in close confinement lest Wishart return for her.
After nine months a son was born to her, whom she named William, for his father.
At the end of two years her parents relaxed their vigilance. Susannah was in poor health. Besides a rumor had been spread that a ship on which Wishart was said to have embarked, to sail for America, had been lost at sea.
Fortunately for their many descendants this rumor was false. Wishart stealthily returned for his bride, was recognized and hidden by one of his friends on the Lytle estate.
A tryst was arranged for him with Susannah, who joyfully agreed to flee with him and their son to America. One afternoon Susannah and little William went for a walk and never returned home.
After a six-month voyage they reached Philadelphia. They made their home near that city on what they called "the waters of the Brandywine".
[This story said to have possibly come from a letter of Samuel Ellis Wishard written to the grandfather of Mr. E. P. Redman of Terre Haute, IN, who reportedly married a Wishard.]

The following correspondence may be helpful in the future;
Hello Kay,
I hope this email is still valid. My name is Pamela (Wishard) Tremblay. After many years dabbling in our Wishart/d genealogy, I finally decided it was time to reach out now that I have some information that may be of interest to you. I have looked at your website (http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~katy/genealogy/wishard/sources.html) so often, I feel like I know you!

My family always assumed the Wishards were Germans (almost everyone else in our county was, ha!) My dad asked his grandfather Virgil (he only met him once) where his family was from and Virgil told him it didn't matter. Years later of course Cleota "Bunny" Stiles contacted our family and we were shocked to learn the true origin of our name! After that, everything started to make a lot more sense, and much of what we know about our family is thanks to Bunny, Jack Wishart, the original creator of the Wishart Society Organization in the UK, and of course Scott Wishart of Wishart Connections. It was Scott who encouraged me to have my father's DNA tested to become part of the FTDNA Wishart surname project. Imagine our disappointment when my father did not match any other Scottish Wisharts in the database--completely different haplotype! We were back to thinking maybe we were German, lol!
Five years later, our family group is now the largest grouping in the Wishart DNA surname project. We have connected five different Wishart trees that originated in Scotland or Ireland, so we know scientifically we all came from the same Scottish Wishart 300+ years ago but the paper documentary evidence is still scant. The family trees that are linked by DNA are:
WIS0016 My Line:

1. WILLIAM WISHART born 17 Sep 1729 Perth Scotland (m. Susannah Lytle)
2. WILLIAM WISHARD born Sep 1772 Ireland
3. SILAS W WISHARD born 1827 Kentucky
4. VIRGIL BURT WISHARD born 02 Jul 1868 Illinois
5. GLEN FORREST WISHARD born 04 Oct 1897 South Dakota
6. GLENN LEROY WISHARD born 21 Sep 1933 South Dakota
7. PAMELA ALMA WISHARD born 04 Nov 1958 South Dakota
WIS0081 Alexander WISHART, b. 1780 Dunfermline, Fife Scotland (m. Euphamia Laing)
WIS0100 Alexander WISHART, b. 1755 Aberdour, Fife, Scotland (m. Margaret Hart)
WIS0052 John WISHART, b. 1720 Ulster, Ireland (m. Agnes Hilton)
WIS0079 James WISHART, b @1800 Glasgow (Gorbals), Lanarkshire, Scotland (m. Agnes Allen)

I can send you the details of these family trees if you wish. I have been in touch with the family of John, WIS0100, and have pages from that family's bible, but there is no information in it about John ancestors, just his descendants. I can share if you don't already have this. I reached out to the other matches to see if I could convince them to test their Y-DNA at higher levels, but none of them replied to me. It is of course, expensive, but it would nail down relationships within the group (uncles, cousins, etc.)
I am interested in the information jwhicks@charter.net sent to you regarding research done on the Lytle family and wondering if you have any further information about establishing Dinsel as the name of Susannah's father and if they were indeed from Morval. Do you have any documents you can share with me? [NOTE: nothing further was ever reported and apparently nothing else found]
There are several more Wishart/Lytle descendants we should loop in on this discussion, but it seems like all the old Wishard surname forums are inactive. I would love to connect and see if we can fit a few more pieces together.
I hope this isn't too disjointed. Warm regards,
Pamela Tremblay

Events

Birth17 Sep 1729Saint Andrews, Thornhill Perish, Pirthshire, Scotland
Marriage1771County Tyrone, Ireland - SUSANNAH LYTLE
Immigration1774Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania
Military1776Sgt., Capt. Wendel Ivey's Co., Col. John Proctor's battalion, Westmoreland County, PA, Revolutionary War
Marriage26 Oct 1798Nicholas County, Kentucky - Elizabeth Furlow
Death31 May 1814Carlisle, Nicholas County, Kentucky
OccupationWeaver
BurialParks Graveyard, Nicholas County, Kentucky

Families

SpouseSUSANNAH LYTLE (1753 - 1795)
ChildWilliam Wishard (1772 - 1830)
ChildSamuel Wishard (1774 - 1858)
ChildAnnis Wishard (1775 - 1848)
ChildJane Stuart Wishard (1777 - 1854)
ChildABRAHAM "ABRAM" WISHARD (1779 - 1843)
ChildHenry Wishard (1780 - 1819)
ChildNancy Agnes Wishard (1781 - 1876)
ChildElizabeth Wishard (1783 - 1844)
ChildJoseph Wishard (1785 - 1811)
ChildSusannah\Susan Wishard (1787 - 1814)
ChildEllis Wishard (1789 - 1809)
ChildCol. John Wishard (1792 - 1878)
ChildJames Lytle Wishard (1794 - 1884)
SpouseElizabeth Furlow (1767 - 1840)
ChildAndrew Wishard (1799 - 1823)
ChildRobert Courtney Wishard (1803 - 1893)

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