Individual Details

Herbert Charles LARDNER

(5 Jun 1890 - 21 Jan 1946)

Herbert Charles Lardner was born 5 June 1890 at Custom House, Essex, London, [1] the son of Joseph Christopher Lardner and Lydia Busby, the second of two living children. He is recorded as living with his parents in West Ham in the 1891 census. His father died in 1899, leaving the family in a difficult situation. The 1901 census shows Lydia, with the children, married to an Irishman, Patrick McColgan in Plumstead, Woolwich, Middlesex.

On 10 October 1903, Lydia and the two children arrived at Ellis Island in third class of the steamship SS Philadelphia, and advised officials that they were joining Patrick, already in New York. She had $25 in her pocket. The 1905 New York census recorded the family living at 563 West 42nd St, Manhattan, where Herbert had progressed through the ninth grade. By 1910, the family had moved to 3017 W 23rd St, Brooklyn, and Herbert had taken a job as a clerk in an office.

Two years later, 9 April 1912, the 21-year-old Herbert married Tillie Turtel in Manhattan. They reside with Herbert's parents. On 8 August 1913, still living with the parents, they produced a child, Christopher Lardner, later known as Walter Christopher. (Their only other known child, Alice, was born about 1917.) Herbert was then working as a motion picture operator at Coney Island.

On 5 June 1917, Herbert registered for the military draft. He received an exemption due to disability because he was missing his right leg.[2] Otherwise, he is described as being of medium height and build, with grey eyes and brown hair. He gave his address as 2915 W 27th St, Brooklyn and occupation as movie operator.

Sometime prior to Apr 1930, the family moved to Kingston, Ulster, New York, where they are recorded in census records and city directories. Herbert continued there in his occupation of movie operator. By April 1940, they owned their own home in Whiteport, worth about $1400.

Herbert died in Whiteport during January of 1946 and was buried at the Rosendale Plains Cemetery in Tillson.

[1] The birthplace of Custom House comes from the 1891 and 1901 censuses. This location should not be confused with the older custom house in London City. Instead, this custom house in Essex was built to service the Victoria Docks, where Herbert's father was employed. The UK birth index has the birth registered in West Ham, Essex, which is consistent. Herbert's daughter-in-law wrote that he was from Cornwall, but there is no documentary support for that. The birthdate is that given on the World War I draft registration card. It is roughly consistent with most of the other records. The notable outlier is the burial record on Find-A-Grave that suggests a birth in 1889.

[2] We have no record suggesting when this might have occurred.

Events

Birth5 Jun 189010 Sophia Road, Plaistow, Newham, London, England, United Kingdom
Birth5 Jun 1890Custom House, Essex, England, United Kingdom
Birth5 Jun 1890London, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
BirthAbt Jul 1890West Ham, Essex, England, United Kingdom
BirthAbt 1891
Residence5 Apr 1891(in parent's household) - 10 Sophia Road (ecclesiastical parish of St Lukes), West Ham, Essex, England, United Kingdom
Residence1901Relation to Head of House: Stepson - Plumstead, Greenwich, London, England, United Kingdom
Residence31 Mar 1901Plumstead East, Woolwich, London, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
Emigration3 Oct 1903on the vessel Philadelphia - Southampton, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
Immigration10 Oct 1903New York, New York, United States
Immigration-shared10 Oct 1903(Lydia BUSBY) Ellis Island, New York, New York, United States
IllnessBef 23 Jan 1904lost his leg when a train ran over him - Eleventh Avenue, New York, New York, United States
Civil23 Jan 1904Judge reduced lawyer's fee for representing Herbert Lardner is injury suit against NYC RR. - White Plains, Westchester, New York, United States
Residence1905563 West 42nd Street, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Education1905at least through grade 9
Residence1905Relation to Head of House: Stepson - Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Residence1910(in household of Patrick and Lydia McColgan) - 3017 West 23rd Street, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States
OccupationApr 1910clerk in an office
Naturalization2 Sep 1910filed his declaration of intention - Kings, New York, United States
Occupation2 Sep 1910stenographer
Description2 Sep 1910white with fair complexion, brown hair, grey eyes, with a lame right leg and a scar on the left cheek
Residence2 Sep 19103017 West 23rd Street, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States
Marriage9 Apr 1912Manhattan, New York, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Marriage License9 Apr 1912Manhattan, New York, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Residence (family)8 Aug 19133017 W 23rd St, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Occupation8 Aug 1913Moving Picture Operator - Coney Island, New York, New York, United States
Naturalization1917 - 1940
Residence1917Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States
Residence1917Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States
Occupation1917[motion picture] operator - Boston Hotel, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States
Residence (family)27 Mar 19172915 West 27th Street, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Naturalization27 Mar 1917filed petition for naturalization - Kings, New York, United States
Residence5 Jun 19172915 W 27th ? St, Kings, New York, United States
Military5 Jun 1917(registered for the WW I draft) - Kings, New York, United States
Description5 Jun 1917medium height, medium build, grey eyes, brown hair, right leg missing
Naturalization6 Jul 1917took oath of allegiance and received certificate of naturalization 852721 - Kings, New York, United States
Occupation1920moving picture operator
Residence (family)Jan 1920(rented home) - 472 28th Street [?], Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Residence (family)193028 Abbey, Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Residence (family)1 Apr 1930with two children (Walter and Alice) - 28 Abbey St., Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Residence1931Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States
Residence1931Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States
Residence (family)193228 Abbey, Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Residence1932Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States
Residence1933Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States
Residence1933Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States
Residence1935Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States
Residence (family)Apr 1935Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Residence (family)1936(with Herbert and children) - 37 Meade, Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Residence1936Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States
Residence (family)1937(with with children Alice and Walter) - 37 Meade, Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Residence (family)1939with wife Tillie and children Alice and Walter, - 114 O'Neil, Kingston, Ulster, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Occupation1939movie projectionist
Occupation1940operator of motion pictures
Residence (family)Apr 1940(in an owned home, worth $1400) - Whiteport, Rosendale, Ulster, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Residence1 Apr 1940Age: 48; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Head - Rosendale, Ulster, New York, United States
Residence (family)25 Apr 1942Route 1, Box 40, Whiteport, Ulster, New York, United States - Tillie TURTEL
Military25 Apr 1942registered for the draft - Kerhonkson, Ulster, New York, United States
Description25 Apr 1942White, 5' 8-1/2", 160 lbs., gray eyes, gray hair, light complexion, tattoo on left arm (with no mention of missing leg)
Death21 Jan 1946Whiteport, Ulster, New York, United States
Alt nameHerbert C. LARDNER
Alt nameHerbert LARDNER
Alt nameHerbert Christopher LARDNER
BurialRosendale Plains Cemetery, Tillson, Ulster, New York, United States

Families

SpouseTillie TURTEL (1892 - 1980)
ChildWalter Christopher LARDNER (1913 - 1994)
ChildLiving
FatherJoseph Christopher LARDNER (1861 - 1899)
MotherLydia BUSBY (1871 - 1928)
SiblingMabel E LARDNER (1887 - 1919)

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