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John Pympe
(Abt 1447 - 9 Aug 1496)
[[Category:Nettlestead, Kent]]
== Biography ==
}John Pympe, Esq. was born about 1447/8 in Nettlestead, Kent, England, and died the 9th or 11th of August 1496. He was the son of John Pympe, Esq (1417-1454) and Philippa Thornbury.
John Pympe and Elizabeth Whetell were married about 1483, and were the parents of two children, Henry and Winifred. ''Winifred was declared a lunatic, insane and non compos mentis, for the latter part of her life. She died without issue.''I.p.m. (2nd Series) 1 Elizabeth (c.142) File 126, #88
(1481) De Banco. Mich.20. Ed.4.m.630. ''John sued his mother and step father, John Gyfford (Guildford), and three other people (probably his half-sister Margaret and her husband).'' Wrottesley, George, 1827, 1909, Pedigrees from the plea rolls: collected from the pleadings in the various courts of law, A.D. 1200 to 1500, from the original rolls in the Public Record Office, Great Britain. Public Record Office 1905?, p.456 https://archive.org/details/pedigreesfromple00wrotrich/page/456:Kent--JOHN PYMPE, Armiger, sued John Gyfford, kt., and Philippa, his wife, and three others named, for the manors of Nettilheth and Pympe, and lands in Brenche, Horsmonden, Lamberhest, Eldyng, West Mallyng, East Mallyng and other places. Verdict for the plaintiff.
:Pedigree given:
::[[Pympe-28|Reginald Pympe]], seised temp. E.3.
:::[[Pympe-27|John]]
::::[[Pympe-13|John]]
:::::John Pympe, the plaintiff.
In 1486, John Pympe, esq. received a share in Humphrey Stafford, esq. manors and lands, for consideration of John Pympe's services and losses.Campbell, William, Materials for a History of the Reign of Henry VII: From Original Documents Preserved in the Public Record Office, Cambridge University Press, 2012, p. 33, [https://books.google.com/books?id=JX_K7n56VR4C&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=john+pympe+and+john+elmebrigge&source=bl&ots=MNK0Eg5rtQ&sig=ACfU3U16r8J9s1GodbhxtlDJcXTFrHuIQg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjIl-WkjcLhAhWj8YMKHf_mAMcQ6AEwC3oECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20pympe%20and%20john%20elmebrigge&f=false JOHN PYMPE]
In 1495, John Pympe served as Treasurer of the Wars in Ireland.Conway, Agnes, Henry VII's Relations with Scotland and Ireland 1485–1498, 1932, Cambridge University Press 2013, p. 69, [https://books.google.com/books?id=zatZAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA71&lpg=PA71&dq=john+pympe,+treasure+of+the+wars+in+ireland+1495&source=bl&ots=MuILu3hHjn&sig=ACfU3U3ISq8QYZrwywf8BV5LWzri9YMKjA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiY4P6Nxr_hAhWO2YMKHVedC-kQ6AEwCXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20pympe%2C%20treasure%20of%20the%20wars%20in%20ireland%201495&f=false JOHN PYMPE TREASURER]
=== Death ===John Pympe of Nettlested made his will on Aug 7, 1496, and it was proved Nov 14, 1496. He directed that he be buried in a stone tome in the choir of Nettlested church.
:"and I will the saide tombe bere the Epitaphe eynegraven in laten
:'here lyeth buried John Pympe,
:Sonne of John Pympe,
:Sonne of John,
:Sonne of Reignolde,
:Sonne of Sir William Pympe, Knyght, :that hadde to Wiffe Elizabeth, the daughter of Richard Whethill, Leuetennte of the Castell of Gynes, oon whose soules Jhu have mercy'." Great Britain, Public Record Office, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and Other Analogous Documents Preserved in the Public Record Office, Volume 1, Part 4 - Volume 2, Part 4, H.M. Stationery Office, 1898, p.551 [https://books.google.com/books?id=VtAMAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA551&lpg=PA551&dq=richard+whetell,+of+boughton&source=bl&ots=IRmkpz6YQr&sig=ACfU3U09yX1FFm5jGBkVH5_2hiQ9DRJP9g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi726nR553hAhVo04MKHWo2CYcQ6AEwCXoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=richard%20whetell%2C%20of%20boughton&f=false INQUISTION]Davis, Walter Goodwin, The Ancestry of Mary Isaac, C. 1549-1613: Wife of Thomas Appleton of Little Waldingfield, Co. Suffolk and Mother of Samuel Appleton of Ipswich, Massachusetts, Anthoensen Press, 1955, p. 263-274 [https://books.google.com/books?id=Ep5pAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA279&lpg=PA279&dq=Richard+Whetell+of+whetehill&source=bl&ots=MEKLN0Mn0K&sig=ACfU3U1OkDOEuHcUUNUicyxM_cSmkz_ioQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwivou3w1Z3hAhUK0YMKHduQA-QQ6AEwCXoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=pympe&f=false PYMPE]MacMichael, N.H., The Descent of the Manor of Evegate in Smeeth With Some Account of its Lords, Archaelologia Cantiana, Kent Archaeological Society, p.40-44, [https://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/sites/default/files/archcant/1961%2074%20The%20Descent%20of%20the%20Manor%20of%20Evegate%20in%20Smeeth%20with%20Some%20Account%20of%20its%20Lords%20MacMichael.pdf PYMPE]
John Pympe, Esq. in his will directed that the stain glass windows in the Nettlestead church have certain family shields put into the blank scutcheons. His directions were not carried out, and the blank scutcheons remained blank. His desire was: "And I will that a knowledge be sought how the alliaunce of Sellinger (St. Leger) Cheyne and Pympe first came in by marriage, and the best knowledge to be found to be shewed in the sd wyndowes by arms in such roomes as may be thought most convenient." ''See Research Notes for details.'' Interesting enough John Pympe relationship with the Cheryne and St. Leger families comes through his half-sister Margery. Yet, Margery and John had a difficult relationship, testified by the fact John Pympe sued Margery and her husband for land that should have been inherited by John.Wedgwood, Josiah C., History of Parliament (1439-1509), 1936, p. 126, https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.210096/page/n187
1235. John Pympe, Esq. Writ 27 Aug., inq. 23 Feb., 12 Hen VII. (p.551)"To the use and for the term of the life of Elizabeth, daughter of Richard Whetell, his wife, with reversion to himself and his heirs.""He died on the morrow of St. Lawrence the Martyr last, seised of the other under-mentioned manors of Nettilstede and Helth, and Tenement in Est Pekham, in fee. Henry Pyme, aged one year and more, is his son and heir."1224. John Pympe, late of Netilsted, co Kent, esq. (p.545) writ 30 Aug. inq. 8 Nov., 12. Hen. VII"Henry Pympe, aged 2 and more, is his son and heir."
=== Research Notes ===
Douglas Richardson, on 26 January 2014, answered a query concerning the connection between the Pympe and St. Leger families. The connection is through the Cheyne family. Richardson, Douglas. “Philippa Thornbury - Google Groups.” Accessed March 27, 2019. [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/pympe%7Csort:date/soc.genealogy.medieval/NUqHSV6-xfs/TIgkh_Nxb3EJ soc.gen.med]:[[Cheney-157|Richard Cheyne]] and [[Cralle-8|Margaret Cralle]] daughter [[Cheney-1754|Margery Cheyne]], married 1st [[Donnet-1|James Donet]] Their daughter '''[[Donnet-3|Margery Donet]], married [[St_Leger-23|John St. Leger, Esq.]]''' (d.1441). :Richard Cheyne and Margaret Cralle' second daughter '''Isabel Cheyne married John Pympe.''' Rylands, W. Harry (William Harry), 1847-1922,Benolt, Thomas, d. 1534,Harvey, William, d. 1567,Chitting, Henry, d. 1638,Philipot, John, 1589?-1645,Camden, William, 1551-1623,Ashmole, Elias, 1617-1692,Bysshe, Edward, Sir, 1615?-1679,College of Arms (Great Britain), The four visitations of Berkshire made and taken by Thomas Benolte, Clarenceux anno 1532; p.102-105, https://www.archive.org/stream/fourvisitations00britgoog#page/n122/mode/2upRobertson, Herbert, Stemmata Robertson et Durdin. Being tables comprising the known ancestors of the children of Herbert Robertson and his wife Helen Alexandrina Melian n Durdin .National Library of Scotland, p. 68-71, ST. LEGER PEDIGREE https://archive.org/stream/stemmatarobertso00robe#page/68/mode/2up
== Sources ==
*Notice: the Archaeologia cantiana by Kent Archaeological Society. p. 166, 167, is the pedigree that has been formerly used for the Pympe/Whetell family tree, but it isn’t consistent with the contemporary sources and therefore unreliable. A quote from MacMichael, N.H. of "The Descent of the Manor of Evegate in Smeeth---" "the account of Pympe family and their alliances by Mr. W. E. Ball (Ball is ungenerous in the extreme with his references--a large number of his statements are clearly wrong and conjectural."
== Biography ==
}John Pympe, Esq. was born about 1447/8 in Nettlestead, Kent, England, and died the 9th or 11th of August 1496. He was the son of John Pympe, Esq (1417-1454) and Philippa Thornbury.
John Pympe and Elizabeth Whetell were married about 1483, and were the parents of two children, Henry and Winifred. ''Winifred was declared a lunatic, insane and non compos mentis, for the latter part of her life. She died without issue.''I.p.m. (2nd Series) 1 Elizabeth (c.142) File 126, #88
(1481) De Banco. Mich.20. Ed.4.m.630. ''John sued his mother and step father, John Gyfford (Guildford), and three other people (probably his half-sister Margaret and her husband).'' Wrottesley, George, 1827, 1909, Pedigrees from the plea rolls: collected from the pleadings in the various courts of law, A.D. 1200 to 1500, from the original rolls in the Public Record Office, Great Britain. Public Record Office 1905?, p.456 https://archive.org/details/pedigreesfromple00wrotrich/page/456:Kent--JOHN PYMPE, Armiger, sued John Gyfford, kt., and Philippa, his wife, and three others named, for the manors of Nettilheth and Pympe, and lands in Brenche, Horsmonden, Lamberhest, Eldyng, West Mallyng, East Mallyng and other places. Verdict for the plaintiff.
:Pedigree given:
::[[Pympe-28|Reginald Pympe]], seised temp. E.3.
:::[[Pympe-27|John]]
::::[[Pympe-13|John]]
:::::John Pympe, the plaintiff.
In 1486, John Pympe, esq. received a share in Humphrey Stafford, esq. manors and lands, for consideration of John Pympe's services and losses.Campbell, William, Materials for a History of the Reign of Henry VII: From Original Documents Preserved in the Public Record Office, Cambridge University Press, 2012, p. 33, [https://books.google.com/books?id=JX_K7n56VR4C&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=john+pympe+and+john+elmebrigge&source=bl&ots=MNK0Eg5rtQ&sig=ACfU3U16r8J9s1GodbhxtlDJcXTFrHuIQg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjIl-WkjcLhAhWj8YMKHf_mAMcQ6AEwC3oECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20pympe%20and%20john%20elmebrigge&f=false JOHN PYMPE]
In 1495, John Pympe served as Treasurer of the Wars in Ireland.Conway, Agnes, Henry VII's Relations with Scotland and Ireland 1485–1498, 1932, Cambridge University Press 2013, p. 69, [https://books.google.com/books?id=zatZAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA71&lpg=PA71&dq=john+pympe,+treasure+of+the+wars+in+ireland+1495&source=bl&ots=MuILu3hHjn&sig=ACfU3U3ISq8QYZrwywf8BV5LWzri9YMKjA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiY4P6Nxr_hAhWO2YMKHVedC-kQ6AEwCXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20pympe%2C%20treasure%20of%20the%20wars%20in%20ireland%201495&f=false JOHN PYMPE TREASURER]
=== Death ===John Pympe of Nettlested made his will on Aug 7, 1496, and it was proved Nov 14, 1496. He directed that he be buried in a stone tome in the choir of Nettlested church.
:"and I will the saide tombe bere the Epitaphe eynegraven in laten
:'here lyeth buried John Pympe,
:Sonne of John Pympe,
:Sonne of John,
:Sonne of Reignolde,
:Sonne of Sir William Pympe, Knyght, :that hadde to Wiffe Elizabeth, the daughter of Richard Whethill, Leuetennte of the Castell of Gynes, oon whose soules Jhu have mercy'." Great Britain, Public Record Office, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and Other Analogous Documents Preserved in the Public Record Office, Volume 1, Part 4 - Volume 2, Part 4, H.M. Stationery Office, 1898, p.551 [https://books.google.com/books?id=VtAMAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA551&lpg=PA551&dq=richard+whetell,+of+boughton&source=bl&ots=IRmkpz6YQr&sig=ACfU3U09yX1FFm5jGBkVH5_2hiQ9DRJP9g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi726nR553hAhVo04MKHWo2CYcQ6AEwCXoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=richard%20whetell%2C%20of%20boughton&f=false INQUISTION]Davis, Walter Goodwin, The Ancestry of Mary Isaac, C. 1549-1613: Wife of Thomas Appleton of Little Waldingfield, Co. Suffolk and Mother of Samuel Appleton of Ipswich, Massachusetts, Anthoensen Press, 1955, p. 263-274 [https://books.google.com/books?id=Ep5pAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA279&lpg=PA279&dq=Richard+Whetell+of+whetehill&source=bl&ots=MEKLN0Mn0K&sig=ACfU3U1OkDOEuHcUUNUicyxM_cSmkz_ioQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwivou3w1Z3hAhUK0YMKHduQA-QQ6AEwCXoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=pympe&f=false PYMPE]MacMichael, N.H., The Descent of the Manor of Evegate in Smeeth With Some Account of its Lords, Archaelologia Cantiana, Kent Archaeological Society, p.40-44, [https://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/sites/default/files/archcant/1961%2074%20The%20Descent%20of%20the%20Manor%20of%20Evegate%20in%20Smeeth%20with%20Some%20Account%20of%20its%20Lords%20MacMichael.pdf PYMPE]
John Pympe, Esq. in his will directed that the stain glass windows in the Nettlestead church have certain family shields put into the blank scutcheons. His directions were not carried out, and the blank scutcheons remained blank. His desire was: "And I will that a knowledge be sought how the alliaunce of Sellinger (St. Leger) Cheyne and Pympe first came in by marriage, and the best knowledge to be found to be shewed in the sd wyndowes by arms in such roomes as may be thought most convenient." ''See Research Notes for details.'' Interesting enough John Pympe relationship with the Cheryne and St. Leger families comes through his half-sister Margery. Yet, Margery and John had a difficult relationship, testified by the fact John Pympe sued Margery and her husband for land that should have been inherited by John.Wedgwood, Josiah C., History of Parliament (1439-1509), 1936, p. 126, https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.210096/page/n187
1235. John Pympe, Esq. Writ 27 Aug., inq. 23 Feb., 12 Hen VII. (p.551)"To the use and for the term of the life of Elizabeth, daughter of Richard Whetell, his wife, with reversion to himself and his heirs.""He died on the morrow of St. Lawrence the Martyr last, seised of the other under-mentioned manors of Nettilstede and Helth, and Tenement in Est Pekham, in fee. Henry Pyme, aged one year and more, is his son and heir."1224. John Pympe, late of Netilsted, co Kent, esq. (p.545) writ 30 Aug. inq. 8 Nov., 12. Hen. VII"Henry Pympe, aged 2 and more, is his son and heir."
=== Research Notes ===
Douglas Richardson, on 26 January 2014, answered a query concerning the connection between the Pympe and St. Leger families. The connection is through the Cheyne family. Richardson, Douglas. “Philippa Thornbury - Google Groups.” Accessed March 27, 2019. [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/pympe%7Csort:date/soc.genealogy.medieval/NUqHSV6-xfs/TIgkh_Nxb3EJ soc.gen.med]:[[Cheney-157|Richard Cheyne]] and [[Cralle-8|Margaret Cralle]] daughter [[Cheney-1754|Margery Cheyne]], married 1st [[Donnet-1|James Donet]] Their daughter '''[[Donnet-3|Margery Donet]], married [[St_Leger-23|John St. Leger, Esq.]]''' (d.1441). :Richard Cheyne and Margaret Cralle' second daughter '''Isabel Cheyne married John Pympe.''' Rylands, W. Harry (William Harry), 1847-1922,Benolt, Thomas, d. 1534,Harvey, William, d. 1567,Chitting, Henry, d. 1638,Philipot, John, 1589?-1645,Camden, William, 1551-1623,Ashmole, Elias, 1617-1692,Bysshe, Edward, Sir, 1615?-1679,College of Arms (Great Britain), The four visitations of Berkshire made and taken by Thomas Benolte, Clarenceux anno 1532; p.102-105, https://www.archive.org/stream/fourvisitations00britgoog#page/n122/mode/2upRobertson, Herbert, Stemmata Robertson et Durdin. Being tables comprising the known ancestors of the children of Herbert Robertson and his wife Helen Alexandrina Melian n Durdin .National Library of Scotland, p. 68-71, ST. LEGER PEDIGREE https://archive.org/stream/stemmatarobertso00robe#page/68/mode/2up
== Sources ==
Events
| Birth | Abt 1447 | Nettlestead, Kent, England | |||
| Death | 9 Aug 1496 | Nettlestead, Kent, England | |||
| Reference No | 22754490 | ||||
| Reference No | 24838795 | ||||
| Reference No | 60 |
Families
| Father | John Pympe (1417 - 1454) |
| Mother | Lady Philippe Thornbury (1431 - 1485) |
| Sibling | Anne Pympe (1454 - 1499) |
| Sibling | Sir Reynold Pympe (1448 - 1531) |