Individual Details
Robert "11th Laird of that Ilk" Innes
(Abt 1409 - Bef 1 Feb 1464)
11th Lord. He fought in battle of Brechin 1452
From Darryl Lundy's page on Sir Robert Innes, 11th of that Ilk:
http://www.thepeerage.com/p13183.htm#i131821
Sir Robert Innes, 11th of that Ilk [1]
*M, #131821,
*b. circa 1410,
*d. before 1 February 1464
*Last Edited=23 Oct 2010
Sir Robert Innes, 11th of that Ilk was born circa 1410.[2]
He married unknown daughter Douglas, daughter of Sir William Douglas, 2nd of Drumlanrig, circa 1436.[2]
He died before 1 February 1464.[3]
He was the son of Sir Walter Innes, 10th of that Ilk and Euphemia Fraser.[2]
Child of Sir Robert Innes, 11th of that Ilk
*1. unknown Innes [1]
Children of Sir Robert Innes, 11th of that Ilk and unknown daughter Douglas
*1. Sir James Innes, 12th of that Ilk+[3] d. c 1491
*2. Walter Innes, 1st of Innermarkie+[2] b. 1451, d. 1499
Citations
*1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 253. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
*2. [S4053] Christopher Davis, "re: Barton Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger LUNDY (101053), 30 October 2009. Hereinafter cited as "re: Barton Family."
*3. [S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 3, page 3427.
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From Ancertry .com hosted by Roots Web
Sir Robert INNES , 11th of that Ilk1 was born about 1409 in Innes, Elgin, MOR, SCT. He died before 1 Feb 1463/64 in Scotland. He is reference number 121. Known as "Ill Sir Robert" but for what reason?
Said to have a further 5 daughters out of wedlock all of whom married Lairds.(See page 18 of Ane Account of the Familie of Innes which is the source doc.)
Had a charter granted at Strathbogy, on 1 September 1441, by Alexander, 1st Earl of Huntly. The grant was prior to Sir Robert being a Knight and prior to Alexander being an Earl.
Robert Innes had a precept of infeftment in the lands of Aberchirder from John, Lord Lindsay of the Byres on 4 July 1456.
Sir Robert was one of the great heroes of the family. Fought at the battle of Brechin in 1452.
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Sir Robert INNES , 11th of that Ilk and Angelica (or Rosa) DOUGLAS , of Drumlanrig were married about 1436. Angelica (or Rosa) DOUGLAS , of Drumlanrig1 (daughter of William DOUGLAS , 2nd of Drumlanrig and Jean MAXWELL) was born about 1417. She died after 1464. She was also known as ? DOUGLAS. She is reference number 659.
Daughter of the Laird of Drumlanrick. Sir Robert INNES , 11th of that Ilk and Angelica (or Rosa) DOUGLAS , of Drumlanrig had the following children:
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i.
Walter (Wylie Wat) INNES , 1st of Invermarkie.
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ii.
? INNES.
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iii.
Margaret INNES.
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iv.
Sir James INNES , 12th of that Ilk.
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Robert INNES , 1st of Drainie1 was born before 1 Feb 1463/64. He was also known as Robert INNES. He is reference number 1442. The Innes of Drumgask and Innes of Balnacraig lines both descend from here.The Innes of Drumgask and Innes of Balnacraig lines both descend from here.
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? INNES.
Seal to Parents: @I264825@
[Dumbreck ver5.3.GED]
Sheriff depute of Moray who gained infamy by his wicked ways before expiated much of his sins by founding the Greyfriars of Elgin (source: James Pringle Weavers)
Sir Robert de Innes, 11th of that Ilk; married c1436 a daughter of Sir William Douglas, 2nd of Drumlanrig, and died by 1 Feb 1464. [Burke's Peerage]
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Thanks to James Pringle Weavers for the following information
INNES: Derived from the Gaelic 'Innes' - an island, and such featured in the lands between the Spey and the Lossie granted by Malcolm IV to the Fleming 'Berowald' in 1160. His grandson was first to adopt the territorial name of which lands he received confirmation from Alexander II in 1226. Sir Alexander, 9th Laird, married the heiress to the Thanedom of Aberchirder and by such consolidated his holdings and posterity. Their son, Sir Walter, was chief for 42 years, and dying in 1454, he was succeeded by 'Ill Sir Robert', 11th Laird and the Sheriff-depute of Moray who gained infamy by his wicked ways before expiated much of his sins by founding the Greyfriars of Elgin.
Click here for Photo of Elgin Cathedral (use browser back arrow to return)
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== Biography ==:Contracted to marry [[Sinclair-1418|Margaret Sinclair]], daughter of [[Sinclair-1474|Sir John Sinclair of Deskford]], but repudiated her and in about 1436 married a daughter of [[Douglas-1829|William Douglas of Drumlanrig]].[[#Innes-Smith|Innes-Smith]]: Page 16[[#Innes_Database|Innes_Database]]: [https://anesfhs.org.uk/images/downloads/innes/pdfs/a_23_innes_of_innes_the_main_line.pdf Innes of Innes page 1]
:Fought, with his brothers Berowald and John, for King James II at the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brechin Battle of Brechin] in 1452.[[#Innes-Smith|Innes-Smith]]: Page 16
:Succeeded to the title on the death of his father in 1456.
:Killed his brother-in-law [[Maitland-177|Sir Patrick Maitland of Netherdale]][[#Innes-Smith|Innes-Smith]]: Page 17 at Auchindoir some time around 1460.[[#Baird|Baird]] [https://archive.org/details/genealogicalcoll00bair/page/14 Page 14][[#Temple|Temple]]: [https://archive.org/stream/thanageoffermart00tempuoft#page/450/mode/2up Page 450]
:Died before 1 Feb 1464 and was buried in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_Cathedral Elgin Cathedral].[[#Innes-Smith|Innes-Smith]]: Page 17
== Research Notes ==:Innes-Smith credits him with building Greyfriars Church in Elgin,[[#Innes-Smith|Innes-Smith]]: Page 17 but this seems not to have been built until 1479, long after his death.
:See [[#Temple|Temple]]: [https://archive.org/stream/thanageoffermart00tempuoft#page/324/mode/2up Page 325] for details of land transfers.
:Born about 1410?http://www.thepeerage.com/p13183.htm#i131821 This is not likely to be true given that 1410 is some years before his mother is likely to have been born.
:'''Places: ''' [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=57.308706,-2.858385 Auchindoir] [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=56.730793,-2.661378 Brechin] [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=57.644531,-2.818365 Deskford] [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=55.273721,-3.808906 Drumlanrig] [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=57.536688,-2.654581 Kinnairdy Castle] [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=57.526561,-2.582908 Netherdale]
== Sources ==
* http://www.thepeerage.com/p13183.htm#i131821
From Darryl Lundy's page on Sir Robert Innes, 11th of that Ilk:
http://www.thepeerage.com/p13183.htm#i131821
Sir Robert Innes, 11th of that Ilk [1]
*M, #131821,
*b. circa 1410,
*d. before 1 February 1464
*Last Edited=23 Oct 2010
Sir Robert Innes, 11th of that Ilk was born circa 1410.[2]
He married unknown daughter Douglas, daughter of Sir William Douglas, 2nd of Drumlanrig, circa 1436.[2]
He died before 1 February 1464.[3]
He was the son of Sir Walter Innes, 10th of that Ilk and Euphemia Fraser.[2]
Child of Sir Robert Innes, 11th of that Ilk
*1. unknown Innes [1]
Children of Sir Robert Innes, 11th of that Ilk and unknown daughter Douglas
*1. Sir James Innes, 12th of that Ilk+[3] d. c 1491
*2. Walter Innes, 1st of Innermarkie+[2] b. 1451, d. 1499
Citations
*1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 253. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
*2. [S4053] Christopher Davis, "re: Barton Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger LUNDY (101053), 30 October 2009. Hereinafter cited as "re: Barton Family."
*3. [S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 3, page 3427.
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From Ancertry .com hosted by Roots Web
Sir Robert INNES , 11th of that Ilk1 was born about 1409 in Innes, Elgin, MOR, SCT. He died before 1 Feb 1463/64 in Scotland. He is reference number 121. Known as "Ill Sir Robert" but for what reason?
Said to have a further 5 daughters out of wedlock all of whom married Lairds.(See page 18 of Ane Account of the Familie of Innes which is the source doc.)
Had a charter granted at Strathbogy, on 1 September 1441, by Alexander, 1st Earl of Huntly. The grant was prior to Sir Robert being a Knight and prior to Alexander being an Earl.
Robert Innes had a precept of infeftment in the lands of Aberchirder from John, Lord Lindsay of the Byres on 4 July 1456.
Sir Robert was one of the great heroes of the family. Fought at the battle of Brechin in 1452.
.
Sir Robert INNES , 11th of that Ilk and Angelica (or Rosa) DOUGLAS , of Drumlanrig were married about 1436. Angelica (or Rosa) DOUGLAS , of Drumlanrig1 (daughter of William DOUGLAS , 2nd of Drumlanrig and Jean MAXWELL) was born about 1417. She died after 1464. She was also known as ? DOUGLAS. She is reference number 659.
Daughter of the Laird of Drumlanrick. Sir Robert INNES , 11th of that Ilk and Angelica (or Rosa) DOUGLAS , of Drumlanrig had the following children:
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i.
Walter (Wylie Wat) INNES , 1st of Invermarkie.
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ii.
? INNES.
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iii.
Margaret INNES.
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iv.
Sir James INNES , 12th of that Ilk.
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v.
Robert INNES , 1st of Drainie1 was born before 1 Feb 1463/64. He was also known as Robert INNES. He is reference number 1442. The Innes of Drumgask and Innes of Balnacraig lines both descend from here.The Innes of Drumgask and Innes of Balnacraig lines both descend from here.
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vi.
? INNES.
Seal to Parents: @I264825@
[Dumbreck ver5.3.GED]
Sheriff depute of Moray who gained infamy by his wicked ways before expiated much of his sins by founding the Greyfriars of Elgin (source: James Pringle Weavers)
Sir Robert de Innes, 11th of that Ilk; married c1436 a daughter of Sir William Douglas, 2nd of Drumlanrig, and died by 1 Feb 1464. [Burke's Peerage]
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Thanks to James Pringle Weavers for the following information
INNES: Derived from the Gaelic 'Innes' - an island, and such featured in the lands between the Spey and the Lossie granted by Malcolm IV to the Fleming 'Berowald' in 1160. His grandson was first to adopt the territorial name of which lands he received confirmation from Alexander II in 1226. Sir Alexander, 9th Laird, married the heiress to the Thanedom of Aberchirder and by such consolidated his holdings and posterity. Their son, Sir Walter, was chief for 42 years, and dying in 1454, he was succeeded by 'Ill Sir Robert', 11th Laird and the Sheriff-depute of Moray who gained infamy by his wicked ways before expiated much of his sins by founding the Greyfriars of Elgin.
Click here for Photo of Elgin Cathedral (use browser back arrow to return)
-- MERGED NOTE ------------
}
== Biography ==:Contracted to marry [[Sinclair-1418|Margaret Sinclair]], daughter of [[Sinclair-1474|Sir John Sinclair of Deskford]], but repudiated her and in about 1436 married a daughter of [[Douglas-1829|William Douglas of Drumlanrig]].[[#Innes-Smith|Innes-Smith]]: Page 16[[#Innes_Database|Innes_Database]]: [https://anesfhs.org.uk/images/downloads/innes/pdfs/a_23_innes_of_innes_the_main_line.pdf Innes of Innes page 1]
:Fought, with his brothers Berowald and John, for King James II at the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brechin Battle of Brechin] in 1452.[[#Innes-Smith|Innes-Smith]]: Page 16
:Succeeded to the title on the death of his father in 1456.
:Killed his brother-in-law [[Maitland-177|Sir Patrick Maitland of Netherdale]][[#Innes-Smith|Innes-Smith]]: Page 17 at Auchindoir some time around 1460.[[#Baird|Baird]] [https://archive.org/details/genealogicalcoll00bair/page/14 Page 14][[#Temple|Temple]]: [https://archive.org/stream/thanageoffermart00tempuoft#page/450/mode/2up Page 450]
:Died before 1 Feb 1464 and was buried in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_Cathedral Elgin Cathedral].[[#Innes-Smith|Innes-Smith]]: Page 17
== Research Notes ==:Innes-Smith credits him with building Greyfriars Church in Elgin,[[#Innes-Smith|Innes-Smith]]: Page 17 but this seems not to have been built until 1479, long after his death.
:See [[#Temple|Temple]]: [https://archive.org/stream/thanageoffermart00tempuoft#page/324/mode/2up Page 325] for details of land transfers.
:Born about 1410?http://www.thepeerage.com/p13183.htm#i131821 This is not likely to be true given that 1410 is some years before his mother is likely to have been born.
:'''Places: ''' [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=57.308706,-2.858385 Auchindoir] [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=56.730793,-2.661378 Brechin] [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=57.644531,-2.818365 Deskford] [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=55.273721,-3.808906 Drumlanrig] [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=57.536688,-2.654581 Kinnairdy Castle] [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=57.526561,-2.582908 Netherdale]
== Sources ==
* http://www.thepeerage.com/p13183.htm#i131821
Events
| Birth | Abt 1409 | Kincairdy Castle | |||
| Birth | Abt 1410 | ||||
| Marriage | 1436 | Unknown Douglas | |||
| Marriage | 1436 | Angelica "Rosa" Douglas | |||
| Burial | 1464 | ||||
| Death | Bef 1 Feb 1464 | ||||
| Death | 1 Feb 1464 | Kincairdy Castle | |||
| Alt name | Sir Robert "11th of that Ilk" Innes | ||||
| Reference No | 5158319 | ||||
| Reference No | 5294111 | ||||
| Reference No | 60 |
Families
| Spouse | Angelica "Rosa" Douglas (1417 - 1460) |
| Child | Margaret "Margaret Ogilvy van Deskford" Innes of Innas (1446 - 1522) |
| Spouse | Unknown Douglas (1417 - 1460) |
| Child | Sir James "12th of that Ilk" Innes (1440 - 1491) |
| Child | Unknown Innes (1435 - ) |
| Child | Margaret Innes (1440 - ) |
| Child | Janet Innes (1440 - 1505) |
| Child | Walter "1st of Innermarkie" Innes (1451 - 1499) |
| Child | Robert "1st of Drainie" Innes (1460 - 1518) |
| Father | Sir Walter "10th of that ilk" Innes (1383 - 1456) |
| Mother | Euphemia Fraser (1385 - ) |
| Sibling | Berowald "the Red Tod" Innes (1415 - 1512) |
| Sibling | Margaret Innes (1420 - ) |