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== Biography ==

===Conjecture on Parents===The parentage and lineage of Margaret is subject to uncertainty. There are four sources of the family lineage, with Balfour Paul[[#S-1]] Balfour Paul; Vol 8, [https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun08pauluoft#page/570/mode/2up page 570] and Sir Bruce Gordon[[#S-2]] Sir Bruce Gordon Seton; [https://archive.org/stream/houseofsetonstv100seto#page/98/mode/2up page 99] being the two most likely. The debate is summarised in Sir Robert Gordon's work[[#S-2]] Sir Bruce Gordon Seton; [https://archive.org/stream/houseofsetonstv100seto#page/94/mode/2up page 95] between pages 95 and 99.
There is no doubt that she was the Heiress of Seton but her parentage is unknown. All sources agree that she was the granddaughter to Sir Alexander Seton, Governor of Berwick and later Master of Torphichen, and his wife Christian Cheyne. The conjecture arises as to which son she was a daughter to; Thomas Seton, hanged at Berwick, 1333, no knowledge of a marriage; William Seton, drowned at sea off Berwick, 1333, no knowledge of a marriage; Sir Alexander Seton, at Newcastle, with Robert Bruce in 1323 as a "bachelor", died c. 1332 fighting against Balliol, he is said, by Maitland and Wynton, to have married a Margaret Murray, sister to William Murray, Captain of Edinburgh castle; or Sir John Seton, who was known to have married and had a son, Alexander Seton that married Margaret Ruthven.
Balfour Paul, likely on the basis that only one son, John Seton, is known to have married, suggests she was his daughter, although allows that she might have been a cousin.[[#S-1]] Balfour Paul; Vol 8, [https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun08pauluoft#page/570/mode/2up page 570] Sir Robert Gordon favours that she was the daughter of the Sir Alexander Seton, killed in 1332, and an unknown mother (Margaret Murray according to Maitland and de Wynton), although allows that she might have been the daughter to Sir John, or even William.
Unless original source material appears to the contrary, wikitree will hold that she was the daughter to Sir John Seton and an unknown mother and record it as uncertain.

===Abduction by Alan de Wynton===
Andrew de Wynton mentions, in Calendar of DocumentsCronykil; II p. 267, that, in 1347 (or after according to Balfour Paul), an Alan de Wynton (whom it might be supposed was a relative; Winton was part of the Seton estates) abducted Margaret de Seton. We can presume he did this while she was young and it might therefore be supposed she was born about 1330. Regardless of who her father was they had all died c. 1335 and her ward is not held on record suggesting she was being warded by her grandfather. However he was, at the time, the Master of Torphichen and Master of the Order of St. John of Jerusalem and it seems, from Charter Records that Margaret Ruthven was known as Lady Seton at the time.[[#S-1]] Balfour Paul; Vol 8, [https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun08pauluoft#page/570/mode/2up page 570, notes]
This abduction was not popular and created serious disruption in the community; creating "Wyntoun's war". According to FordunFordun: Scotichronicon; Vol. II p. 337 a hundred ploughs were laid aside in Lothian while the matter was under discussion. Lord Hailes says "some favoured the ravisher, others thought to bring him to punishment." It could therefore be presumed he had support amongst the local community. It must also be presumed that the marriage occurred after the death Sir Alexander de Seton, c. 1349, likely immediately after as she became heir to the estates; else Sir Alexander, with significant influence, would have had him executed. As Alexander is thought to have died about 1349 we can expect the two events coincided.
Wynton also mentions that "that William of Murray, whose sister had married Sir Alexander Seton, aided the young couple and took them into Edinburgh Castle of which he was Governor." This could only be viewed as justification by a relative and unlikely although that may have been where he escaped for protection. Balfour Paul also notes if Murray abetted De Wyntoun, the heiress can hardly have been, as some have held, Maitlaid and de Wynton, daughter of the marriage between Sir Alexander Seton and Margaret Murray.

===Alan de Wyntoun===Who was he? Balfour Paul makes no mention. He is noticed as having sought the cross apparently while still a young man, owing (according to Bower) to intrigues against him on the part of her relations, and died in the Holy Land. We can only presume this to relate to the Alexandrian Crusade in 1365 or, as Sir Alexander de Seton had been Master of the House of Torphichen of the Order of the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem up to his death in 1349, he may have joined that Order, or he went as a Pilgrim.
However he is known to have had two children by Margaret. To support the latter, there is a record of a deposit in London on his way abroad, where Alan de Wyntoun left 400 ducats of gold with one Nicholas Zucull a Venetian merchant. In 1363 his son "William of Wyntoun" authorised Adam Wymondham a citizen, and Nicholas Nogrebon, a Venetian to recover the money. The document states that Alan had died on his way to Mount Sinai, when about to visit the tomb of St. Katherine there.Rotuli Scotiae; Vol. 1. No. 879
Sir Bruce Gordon Seton speculates that he was one of the nobles that held lands to the Setons, with the estates of Wynton being Seton lands. Charter records confirm this but not the person of Alan de Wynton and Sir Bruce Gordon suggests that he may well have been a descendant of the Philip de Seton, who owned Winton and died about 1195.

===Family===There is a story, mentioned in both sources and sourced to Fordun, that complaint was made to the King, (which must have been David II.) and that Alan was apprehended.
Margaret was then subjected to the ordeal of being blindfolded and made to choose between a sword and a ring. She chose the latter and they were then regarded as wed.

The couple had two children:
* [[Seton-212|William de Seton]]; likely born about 1350, who will inherit the lands and titles.
* [[Seton-45|Margaret (or sometimes noticed as Christiana) Seton]], likely born about 1355. She is supposed to have been married to George, tenth Earl of Dunbar.[[#S-1]] Balfour Paul; Vol 8, [https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun08pauluoft#page/570/mode/2up page 570] and also noticed at Vol. 3, [https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun03pauluoft#page/272/mode/2up page 273].



===Footnotes===


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== Biography ==}
===Conjecture on Parents===The parentage and lineage of Margaret is subject to uncertainty. There are four sources of the family lineage, with Balfour Paul[[#S-1]] Balfour Paul; Vol 8, [https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun08pauluoft#page/570/mode/2up page 570] and Sir Bruce Gordon[[#S-2]] Sir Bruce Gordon Seton; [https://archive.org/stream/houseofsetonstv100seto#page/98/mode/2up page 99] being the two most likely. The debate is summarised in Sir Robert Gordon's work[[#S-2]] Sir Bruce Gordon Seton; [https://archive.org/stream/houseofsetonstv100seto#page/94/mode/2up page 95] between pages 95 and 99.
There is no doubt that she was the Heiress of Seton but her parentage is unknown. All sources agree that she was the granddaughter to Sir Alexander Seton, Governor of Berwick and later Master of Torphichen, and his wife Christian Cheyne. The conjecture arises as to which son she was a daughter to; Thomas Seton, hanged at Berwick, 1333, no knowledge of a marriage; William Seton, drowned at sea off Berwick, 1333, no knowledge of a marriage; Sir Alexander Seton, at Newcastle, with Robert Bruce in 1323 as a "bachelor", died c. 1332 fighting against Balliol, he is said, by Maitland and Wynton, to have married a Margaret Murray, sister to William Murray, Captain of Edinburgh castle; or Sir John Seton, who was known to have married and had a son, Alexander Seton that married Margaret Ruthven.
Balfour Paul, likely on the basis that only one son, John Seton, is known to have married, suggests she was his daughter, although allows that she might have been a cousin.[[#S-1]] Balfour Paul; Vol 8, [https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun08pauluoft#page/570/mode/2up page 570] Sir Robert Gordon favours that she was the daughter of the Sir Alexander Seton, killed in 1332, and an unknown mother (Margaret Murray according to Maitland and de Wynton), although allows that she might have been the daughter to Sir John, or even William.
Unless original source material appears to the contrary, wikitree will hold that she was the daughter to Sir John Seton and an unknown mother and record it as uncertain.

===Abduction by Alan de Wynton===
Andrew de Wynton mentions, in Calendar of DocumentsCronykil; II p. 267, that, in 1347 (or after according to Balfour Paul), an Alan de Wynton (whom it might be supposed was a relative; Winton was part of the Seton estates) abducted Margaret de Seton. We can presume he did this while she was young and it might therefore be supposed she was born about 1330. Regardless of who her father was they had all died c. 1335 and her ward is not held on record suggesting she was being warded by her grandfather. However he was, at the time, the Master of Torphichen and Master of the Order of St. John of Jerusalem and it seems, from Charter Records that Margaret Ruthven was known as Lady Seton at the time.[[#S-1]] Balfour Paul; Vol 8, [https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun08pauluoft#page/570/mode/2up page 570, notes]
This abduction was not popular and created serious disruption in the community; creating "Wyntoun's war". According to FordunFordun: Scotichronicon; Vol. II p. 337 a hundred ploughs were laid aside in Lothian while the matter was under discussion. Lord Hailes says "some favoured the ravisher, others thought to bring him to punishment." It could therefore be presumed he had support amongst the local community. It must also be presumed that the marriage occurred after the death Sir Alexander de Seton, c. 1349, likely immediately after as she became heir to the estates; else Sir Alexander, with significant influence, would have had him executed. As Alexander is thought to have died about 1349 we can expect the two events coincided.
Wynton also mentions that "that William of Murray, whose sister had married Sir Alexander Seton, aided the young couple and took them into Edinburgh Castle of which he was Governor." This could only be viewed as justification by a relative and unlikely although that may have been where he escaped for protection. Balfour Paul also notes if Murray abetted De Wyntoun, the heiress can hardly have been, as some have held, Maitlaid and de Wynton, daughter of the marriage between Sir Alexander Seton and Margaret Murray.

===Alan de Wyntoun===Who was he? Balfour Paul makes no mention. He is noticed as having sought the cross apparently while still a young man, owing (according to Bower) to intrigues against him on the part of her relations, and died in the Holy Land. We can only presume this to relate to the Alexandrian Crusade in 1365 or, as Sir Alexander de Seton had been Master of the House of Torphichen of the Order of the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem up to his death in 1349, he may have joined that Order, or he went as a Pilgrim.
However he is known to have had two children by Margaret. To support the latter, there is a record of a deposit in London on his way abroad, where Alan de Wyntoun left 400 ducats of gold with one Nicholas Zucull a Venetian merchant. In 1363 his son "William of Wyntoun" authorised Adam Wymondham a citizen, and Nicholas Nogrebon, a Venetian to recover the money. The document states that Alan had died on his way to Mount Sinai, when about to visit the tomb of St. Katherine there.Rotuli Scotiae; Vol. 1. No. 879
Sir Bruce Gordon Seton speculates that he was one of the nobles that held lands to the Setons, with the estates of Wynton being Seton lands. Charter records confirm this but not the person of Alan de Wynton and Sir Bruce Gordon suggests that he may well have been a descendant of the Philip de Seton, who owned Winton and died about 1195.

===Family===There is a story, mentioned in both sources and sourced to Fordun, that complaint was made to the King, (which must have been David II.) and that Alan was apprehended.
Margaret was then subjected to the ordeal of being blindfolded and made to choose between a sword and a ring. She chose the latter and they were then regarded as wed.

The couple had two children:
* [[Seton-212|William de Seton]]; likely born about 1350, who will inherit the lands and titles.
* [[Seton-45|Margaret (or sometimes noticed as Christiana) Seton]], likely born about 1355. She is supposed to have been married to George, tenth Earl of Dunbar.[[#S-1]] Balfour Paul; Vol 8, [https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun08pauluoft#page/570/mode/2up page 570] and also noticed at Vol. 3, [https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun03pauluoft#page/272/mode/2up page 273].



===Footnotes===


=== Sources ===* Source S-1 }
* Source S-2 }

Birth	Abt 1330	Seton, Eastlothian, Scotland
Marriage	1347	Seton, East Lothian, Scotland - Baron Alan "de Wyntown, Winton" Wyntown
Death	Abt 1360	Scotland
Marriage		Sir Andrew "4th Lord of Bothwell" Murray
Alt name		Heiress of Seton
Reference No		8492742
Reference No
Reference No		60
Reference No		8882074

Spouse

Sir Andrew "4th Lord of Bothwell" Murray (1268 - 1338)

Spouse	Baron Alan "de Wyntown, Winton" Wyntown (1291 - 1347)
Child	Sir William Seton (1348 - 1409)
Child	Christina Seton (1355 - 1402)

Child	Henry Wyntown (1350 - )
Child	Alexander Wyntown (1353 - )

Father

John Seton (1305 - 1340)