Individual Details
Sir Thomas Erskine
(1354 - 28 May 1404)
}
== Biography ==The eldest son of Sir Robert, is first named in 1354, if it be he who in that year, as 'son and heir' of Sir Robert Erskine, was proposed as one of the hostages for King David II.
===Earl of Mar Connection===
Ancestor of the Erskines, Earls of MarThe Royal Stewarts, Henderson, T. F., (William Blackwood and Sons, Edinburgh and London, 1914), 929.241 St49h., Stewart Pedigree.
:Christian was the second wife of Edward de Keith. They had one known child, '''Janet de Keith''' who married first, Sir David Barclay of Brechin.The Scots Peerage, Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Vol. V, Ed. James Balfour Paul (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1908), p. 598 She married secondly, before 13 April 1370, ''Sir Thomas Erskine'' of Erskine.
:It was through this marriage that the son of Janet and Thomas, Robert Erskine, 1st Lord Erskine, claimed the Earldom of Mar making Janet the link NOTE: Sir Robert claimed the earldom of Mar through his mother’s mother’s mother Elyne/Elen, daughter of Gartney/Gratney, Earl of Mar.between the ancient Earls of Mar and the modern Earls of Mar. Complete Peerage, Vol. VIII, p. 400-401; Scots Peerage, Vol V. pp. 598-602; Scots Peerage, Vol VI, p. 35.The Scots Peerage, Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Vol. VI, Ed. James Balfour Paul (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1909), p. 35 The claim was not formally accepted until the time of John, 6th Lord Erskine. Even then, however, there was uncertainty as to whether or not the identification of that lord as Earl of Mar was acceptance of his family’s longstanding claim or a new appointment. The intervening lords are nevertheless sometimes referred to as ‘de jure Earls of Mar’.Moutray’s Blog Moutray/ Moultray / Moultrie related Genealogy Research, http://moultray.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/erskine-scotland/
=== Name ===
: Name: Thomas Sir Knight of Renfrewshire /Erskine/Source: [[#S60]] Page: Record for Sir Robert of that Ilk "1st Lord Erskine" "12th Lord Mar" Erskine CONT http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=29297580&pid=1042Source: [[#S60]] Record for Thomas Sir Knight of Renfrewshire Erskine CONT http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=29297580&pid=1042
=== Birth ===
: Birth:
:: Date: 1354:: Place: Erskine,,Renfrewshire,ScotlandSource: [[#S60]] Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Sir Robert of that Ilk "1st Lord Erskine" "12th Lord Mar" Erskine CONT http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=29297580&pid=1042
=== Marriage ===
:Thomas married Janet de Keith Bef 13 Apr 1370 The Genealogist (1980-), Association for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, (New York: Organization for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, 1980-), FHL book 929.105 G286n., vol. 24 no. 1 p. 120.The Royal Stewarts, Henderson, T. F., (William Blackwood and Sons, Edinburgh and London, 1914), 929.241 St49h., Stewart Pedigree.The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, with Armorial Illustrations (1904-1914), Paul , Sir James Balfour, (9 volumes. Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-1914), FHL book 941 D22p; FHL microfilms104,157-104,161., vol. 5 p. 581.
:Thomas married Mary Douglas, d. Bef 30 Jun 1367. This couple had no issue.
: Husband: [[Erskine-427|Robert Erskine]]
: Wife: [[Lindsay-423|Beatrix Lindsay]]
: Child: [[Erskine-429|Thomas Erskine]]
:: Relationship to Father: Natural
:: Relationship to Mother: Natural
: Marriage:
:: Date: 1336:: Place: Perth, Perthshire, ScotlandSource: [[#S138]] Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Robert Erskine
===Children===
*1. Christian Erskine*2. Sir Robert Erskine, 1st lord Erskine,B. 13 APR 1370 Selkirkshire, Scotland d. Bef 6 Nov 1452 [[Erskine-426|Robert Erskine]]Source: [[#S138]] Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Thomas Erskine
*3. John Erskine, of Dun
*4. Elizabeth Erskine
=== Death ===
: Death:
:: Date: 28 MAY 1404:: Place: Hill, Gloucestershire, , EnglandSource: [[#S60]] Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Sir Robert of that Ilk "1st Lord Erskine" "12th Lord Mar" Erskine http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=29297580&pid=1042
: Death:
:: Date: 1403
:: Place: Hill, Gloucestershire, EnglandSource: [[#S60]]
==Sources==
* http://www.thepeerage.com/p10920.htm#i109196
*The Genealogist (1980-), Association for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, (New York: Organization for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, 1980-), FHL book 929.105 G286n., vol. 24 no. 1 p. 120.*The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry, Watney, Vernon James, (4 volumes. Oxford: John Johnson, 1928), FHL book Q 929.242 W159w; FHL microfilm 1696491 it., vol. 2 p. 303.*Unknown author,'' Sir Thomas Erskine, of that Ilk'', http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I8646&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous
* Source: S60
Repository: [[#R1]]
* Repository: R1
* Source: S138 Repository: [[#R2]]
* Repository: R2
* Source: [[#S155]]::: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=4478194&pid=-117642404
* Source S155
: Repository: [[#R1]]
: Paranthetical: Y
: Repository R1
* WikiTree profile Erskine-236 created through the import of pshinn geneology 2011-6-7.ged on Jun 11, 2011 by [[Shinn-221 | Paul Shinn]]. See the [http://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Erskine-236 Changes page] for the details of edits by Paul and others.
* http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/17625687/person/1498256839
== Note ==
: Note: @N8496@
: @N8496@ NOTE
: Ancestor of James Veatch (Nancy Jane Prather).
==Acknowledgements==
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this profile. See CHANGES tab.
-- MERGED NOTE ------------
}
== Biography ==
}The eldest son of Sir Robert, is first named in 1354, if it be he who in that year, as 'son and heir' of Sir Robert Erskine, was proposed as one of the hostages for King David II.
===Earl of Mar Connection===Ancestor of the Erskines, Earls of MarThe Royal Stewarts, Henderson, T. F., (William Blackwood and Sons, Edinburgh and London, 1914), 929.241 St49h., Stewart Pedigree.
:Christian was the second wife of Edward de Keith. They had one known child, '''Janet de Keith''' who married first, Sir David Barclay of Brechin.The Scots Peerage, Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Vol. V, Ed. James Balfour Paul (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1908), p. 598 She married secondly, before 13 April 1370, ''Sir Thomas Erskine'' of Erskine.
:It was through this marriage that the son of Janet and Thomas, Robert Erskine, 1st Lord Erskine, claimed the Earldom of Mar making Janet the link NOTE: Sir Robert claimed the earldom of Mar through his mother’s mother’s mother Elyne/Elen, daughter of Gartney/Gratney, Earl of Mar.between the ancient Earls of Mar and the modern Earls of Mar. Complete Peerage, Vol. VIII, p. 400-401; Scots Peerage, Vol V. pp. 598-602; Scots Peerage, Vol VI, p. 35.The Scots Peerage, Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Vol. VI, Ed. James Balfour Paul (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1909), p. 35 The claim was not formally accepted until the time of John, 6th Lord Erskine. Even then, however, there was uncertainty as to whether or not the identification of that lord as Earl of Mar was acceptance of his family’s longstanding claim or a new appointment. The intervening lords are nevertheless sometimes referred to as ‘de jure Earls of Mar’.Moutray’s Blog Moutray/ Moultray / Moultrie related Genealogy Research, http://moultray.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/erskine-scotland/
=== Birth ===
: Birth:
:: Date: 1354
:: Place: Erskine,,Renfrewshire,Scotland
=== Marriage ===:Thomas married Janet de Keith Bef 13 Apr 1370 The Genealogist (1980-), Association for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, (New York: Organization for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, 1980-), FHL book 929.105 G286n., vol. 24 no. 1 p. 120.The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, with Armorial Illustrations (1904-1914), Paul , Sir James Balfour, (9 volumes. Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-1914), FHL book 941 D22p; FHL microfilms104,157-104,161., vol. 5 p. 581.
:Thomas married Mary Douglas, d. Bef 30 Jun 1367. This couple had no issue.
: Husband: [[Erskine-427|Robert Erskine]]
: Wife: [[Lindsay-423|Beatrix Lindsay]]
: Child: [[Erskine-429|Thomas Erskine]]
:: Relationship to Father: Natural
:: Relationship to Mother: Natural
: Marriage:
:: Date: 1336:: Place: Perth, Perthshire, ScotlandSource: [[#S138]] Page: Ancestry.com Title: Public Member Trees Text: Record for Robert Erskine;
===Children===
*1. Christian Erskine*2. Sir Robert Erskine, 1st lord Erskine,B. 13 APR 1370 Selkirkshire, Scotland d. Bef 6 Nov 1452 [[Erskine-426|Robert Erskine]]
*3. John Erskine, of Dun
*4. Elizabeth Erskine
=== Death ===
: Death:
:: Date: 28 MAY 1404
:: Place: Hill, Gloucestershire, , England
: Death:
:: Date: 1403
:: Place: Hill, Gloucestershire, England
== Note ==
: Ancestor of James Veatch (Nancy Jane Prather).
==Sources==
===See Also===
*[http://www.thepeerage.com/p10920.htm#i109196 Peerage.com]
*}*The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry, Watney, Vernon James, (4 volumes. Oxford: John Johnson, 1928), FHL book Q 929.242 W159w; FHL microfilm 1696491 it., vol. 2 p. 303.*Unknown author,'' Sir Thomas Erskine, of that Ilk'', http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I8646&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous <<-- link is no longer valid
* http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/17625687/person/1498256839
==Acknowledgements==* WikiTree profile Erskine-236 created through the import of pshinn geneology 2011-6-7.ged on Jun 11, 2011 by [[Shinn-221 | Paul Shinn]]. See the [http://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Erskine-236 Changes page] for the details of edits by Paul and others.
== Biography ==The eldest son of Sir Robert, is first named in 1354, if it be he who in that year, as 'son and heir' of Sir Robert Erskine, was proposed as one of the hostages for King David II.
===Earl of Mar Connection===
Ancestor of the Erskines, Earls of MarThe Royal Stewarts, Henderson, T. F., (William Blackwood and Sons, Edinburgh and London, 1914), 929.241 St49h., Stewart Pedigree.
:Christian was the second wife of Edward de Keith. They had one known child, '''Janet de Keith''' who married first, Sir David Barclay of Brechin.The Scots Peerage, Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Vol. V, Ed. James Balfour Paul (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1908), p. 598 She married secondly, before 13 April 1370, ''Sir Thomas Erskine'' of Erskine.
:It was through this marriage that the son of Janet and Thomas, Robert Erskine, 1st Lord Erskine, claimed the Earldom of Mar making Janet the link NOTE: Sir Robert claimed the earldom of Mar through his mother’s mother’s mother Elyne/Elen, daughter of Gartney/Gratney, Earl of Mar.between the ancient Earls of Mar and the modern Earls of Mar. Complete Peerage, Vol. VIII, p. 400-401; Scots Peerage, Vol V. pp. 598-602; Scots Peerage, Vol VI, p. 35.The Scots Peerage, Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Vol. VI, Ed. James Balfour Paul (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1909), p. 35 The claim was not formally accepted until the time of John, 6th Lord Erskine. Even then, however, there was uncertainty as to whether or not the identification of that lord as Earl of Mar was acceptance of his family’s longstanding claim or a new appointment. The intervening lords are nevertheless sometimes referred to as ‘de jure Earls of Mar’.Moutray’s Blog Moutray/ Moultray / Moultrie related Genealogy Research, http://moultray.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/erskine-scotland/
=== Name ===
: Name: Thomas Sir Knight of Renfrewshire /Erskine/Source: [[#S60]] Page: Record for Sir Robert of that Ilk "1st Lord Erskine" "12th Lord Mar" Erskine CONT http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=29297580&pid=1042Source: [[#S60]] Record for Thomas Sir Knight of Renfrewshire Erskine CONT http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=29297580&pid=1042
=== Birth ===
: Birth:
:: Date: 1354:: Place: Erskine,,Renfrewshire,ScotlandSource: [[#S60]] Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Sir Robert of that Ilk "1st Lord Erskine" "12th Lord Mar" Erskine CONT http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=29297580&pid=1042
=== Marriage ===
:Thomas married Janet de Keith Bef 13 Apr 1370 The Genealogist (1980-), Association for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, (New York: Organization for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, 1980-), FHL book 929.105 G286n., vol. 24 no. 1 p. 120.The Royal Stewarts, Henderson, T. F., (William Blackwood and Sons, Edinburgh and London, 1914), 929.241 St49h., Stewart Pedigree.The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, with Armorial Illustrations (1904-1914), Paul , Sir James Balfour, (9 volumes. Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-1914), FHL book 941 D22p; FHL microfilms104,157-104,161., vol. 5 p. 581.
:Thomas married Mary Douglas, d. Bef 30 Jun 1367. This couple had no issue.
: Husband: [[Erskine-427|Robert Erskine]]
: Wife: [[Lindsay-423|Beatrix Lindsay]]
: Child: [[Erskine-429|Thomas Erskine]]
:: Relationship to Father: Natural
:: Relationship to Mother: Natural
: Marriage:
:: Date: 1336:: Place: Perth, Perthshire, ScotlandSource: [[#S138]] Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Robert Erskine
===Children===
*1. Christian Erskine*2. Sir Robert Erskine, 1st lord Erskine,B. 13 APR 1370 Selkirkshire, Scotland d. Bef 6 Nov 1452 [[Erskine-426|Robert Erskine]]Source: [[#S138]] Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Thomas Erskine
*3. John Erskine, of Dun
*4. Elizabeth Erskine
=== Death ===
: Death:
:: Date: 28 MAY 1404:: Place: Hill, Gloucestershire, , EnglandSource: [[#S60]] Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Sir Robert of that Ilk "1st Lord Erskine" "12th Lord Mar" Erskine http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=29297580&pid=1042
: Death:
:: Date: 1403
:: Place: Hill, Gloucestershire, EnglandSource: [[#S60]]
==Sources==
* http://www.thepeerage.com/p10920.htm#i109196
*The Genealogist (1980-), Association for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, (New York: Organization for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, 1980-), FHL book 929.105 G286n., vol. 24 no. 1 p. 120.*The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry, Watney, Vernon James, (4 volumes. Oxford: John Johnson, 1928), FHL book Q 929.242 W159w; FHL microfilm 1696491 it., vol. 2 p. 303.*Unknown author,'' Sir Thomas Erskine, of that Ilk'', http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I8646&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous
* Source: S60
Repository: [[#R1]]
* Repository: R1
* Source: S138 Repository: [[#R2]]
* Repository: R2
* Source: [[#S155]]::: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=4478194&pid=-117642404
* Source S155
: Repository: [[#R1]]
: Paranthetical: Y
: Repository R1
* WikiTree profile Erskine-236 created through the import of pshinn geneology 2011-6-7.ged on Jun 11, 2011 by [[Shinn-221 | Paul Shinn]]. See the [http://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Erskine-236 Changes page] for the details of edits by Paul and others.
* http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/17625687/person/1498256839
== Note ==
: Note: @N8496@
: @N8496@ NOTE
: Ancestor of James Veatch (Nancy Jane Prather).
==Acknowledgements==
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this profile. See CHANGES tab.
-- MERGED NOTE ------------
}
== Biography ==
}The eldest son of Sir Robert, is first named in 1354, if it be he who in that year, as 'son and heir' of Sir Robert Erskine, was proposed as one of the hostages for King David II.
===Earl of Mar Connection===Ancestor of the Erskines, Earls of MarThe Royal Stewarts, Henderson, T. F., (William Blackwood and Sons, Edinburgh and London, 1914), 929.241 St49h., Stewart Pedigree.
:Christian was the second wife of Edward de Keith. They had one known child, '''Janet de Keith''' who married first, Sir David Barclay of Brechin.The Scots Peerage, Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Vol. V, Ed. James Balfour Paul (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1908), p. 598 She married secondly, before 13 April 1370, ''Sir Thomas Erskine'' of Erskine.
:It was through this marriage that the son of Janet and Thomas, Robert Erskine, 1st Lord Erskine, claimed the Earldom of Mar making Janet the link NOTE: Sir Robert claimed the earldom of Mar through his mother’s mother’s mother Elyne/Elen, daughter of Gartney/Gratney, Earl of Mar.between the ancient Earls of Mar and the modern Earls of Mar. Complete Peerage, Vol. VIII, p. 400-401; Scots Peerage, Vol V. pp. 598-602; Scots Peerage, Vol VI, p. 35.The Scots Peerage, Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Vol. VI, Ed. James Balfour Paul (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1909), p. 35 The claim was not formally accepted until the time of John, 6th Lord Erskine. Even then, however, there was uncertainty as to whether or not the identification of that lord as Earl of Mar was acceptance of his family’s longstanding claim or a new appointment. The intervening lords are nevertheless sometimes referred to as ‘de jure Earls of Mar’.Moutray’s Blog Moutray/ Moultray / Moultrie related Genealogy Research, http://moultray.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/erskine-scotland/
=== Birth ===
: Birth:
:: Date: 1354
:: Place: Erskine,,Renfrewshire,Scotland
=== Marriage ===:Thomas married Janet de Keith Bef 13 Apr 1370 The Genealogist (1980-), Association for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, (New York: Organization for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, 1980-), FHL book 929.105 G286n., vol. 24 no. 1 p. 120.The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, with Armorial Illustrations (1904-1914), Paul , Sir James Balfour, (9 volumes. Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-1914), FHL book 941 D22p; FHL microfilms104,157-104,161., vol. 5 p. 581.
:Thomas married Mary Douglas, d. Bef 30 Jun 1367. This couple had no issue.
: Husband: [[Erskine-427|Robert Erskine]]
: Wife: [[Lindsay-423|Beatrix Lindsay]]
: Child: [[Erskine-429|Thomas Erskine]]
:: Relationship to Father: Natural
:: Relationship to Mother: Natural
: Marriage:
:: Date: 1336:: Place: Perth, Perthshire, ScotlandSource: [[#S138]] Page: Ancestry.com Title: Public Member Trees Text: Record for Robert Erskine;
===Children===
*1. Christian Erskine*2. Sir Robert Erskine, 1st lord Erskine,B. 13 APR 1370 Selkirkshire, Scotland d. Bef 6 Nov 1452 [[Erskine-426|Robert Erskine]]
*3. John Erskine, of Dun
*4. Elizabeth Erskine
=== Death ===
: Death:
:: Date: 28 MAY 1404
:: Place: Hill, Gloucestershire, , England
: Death:
:: Date: 1403
:: Place: Hill, Gloucestershire, England
== Note ==
: Ancestor of James Veatch (Nancy Jane Prather).
==Sources==
===See Also===
*[http://www.thepeerage.com/p10920.htm#i109196 Peerage.com]
*}*The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry, Watney, Vernon James, (4 volumes. Oxford: John Johnson, 1928), FHL book Q 929.242 W159w; FHL microfilm 1696491 it., vol. 2 p. 303.*Unknown author,'' Sir Thomas Erskine, of that Ilk'', http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I8646&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous <<-- link is no longer valid
* http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/17625687/person/1498256839
==Acknowledgements==* WikiTree profile Erskine-236 created through the import of pshinn geneology 2011-6-7.ged on Jun 11, 2011 by [[Shinn-221 | Paul Shinn]]. See the [http://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Erskine-236 Changes page] for the details of edits by Paul and others.
Events
| Birth | 1354 | Erskine, Renfrewshire, , Scotland | |||
| Marriage | 13 Apr 1370 | Lady Janet Keith | |||
| Death | 28 May 1404 | Hill, Gloucestershire, , England | |||
| Reference No | 1012013 | ||||
| Reference No | 1033334 | ||||
| Reference No | 60 |
Families
| Spouse | Lady Janet Keith (1342 - 1413) |
| Child | Sir Robert "1st Lord Erskine" Erskine (1370 - 1452) |
| Child | Sir John "of Dun" Erskine (1371 - 1422) |
| Child | Unknown Erskine (1372 - ) |
| Father | Sir Robert Erskine (1310 - 1385) |
| Mother | Beatrice "Beatrix" Lindsay (1314 - 1352) |
| Sibling | Nicholas Erskine (1345 - 1406) |