Individual Details
Louis TURTEL
(Abt 1870 - 7 Oct 1936)
Events
| Birth | Abt 1870 | Austria |  | ||
| Birth | 1872 | Poland |  | ||
| Birth | 1872 | Poland | | ||
| Birth | 1872 | Austria | | ||
| Immigration | 1886 | | |||
| Arrival | 1888 | | |||
| Marriage | Abt 1895 | Sadie PHILLIPS | | ||
| Arrival | 1900 | | |||
| Residence | 1910 | Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Head - Ward 17, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States | | ||
| Residence (family) | Apr 1910 | (owned but with mortgage) - 534 Fifth Street, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States - Sadie PHILLIPS | | ||
| Occupation | Apr 1910 | merchant of [horses and dogs?] | |||
| Residence (family) | Jun 1915 | 101 2nd Street, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States - Sadie PHILLIPS | | ||
| Occupation | Jun 1915 | employed at a livery | |||
| Occupation | 1920 | self-employed butcher | | ||
| Residence | 1920 | Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Head - Assembly District 8, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States | | ||
| Residence (family) | Jan 1920 | (owned home with mortgage) - 101 2nd Street, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States - Sadie PHILLIPS | | | |
| Residence (family) | Jun 1925 | 101 2nd Street, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States - Sadie PHILLIPS | | ||
| Occupation | Jun 1925 | works in a store [?] | |||
| Naturalization | Bef 1930 | | |||
| Occupation | 1930 | proprietor, retail butcher | | | |
| Residence (family) | Apr 1930 | (owned, worth $15000?) - 101 2nd Street, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States - Sadie PHILLIPS | | | |
| Death | 7 Oct 1936 | Manhattan, New York, New York, United States | | ||
| Death | 7 Oct 1936 | Manhattan, New York, New York, United States | | ||
| Burial | Aft 7 Oct 1936 | Mount Zion Cemetery, Maspeth, Queens, New York, United States | | ||
| Alt name | Louis TURTLE | | |||
| Burial | Maspeth, Queens, New York, United States | |
Families
| Spouse | Sadie PHILLIPS (1872 - 1936) |
| Child | Tillie TURTEL (1892 - 1980) |
| Child | Julius TURTEL (1902 - 1993) |
Notes
Birth
1910 census claims both parents born in Austria, speaking Yiddish.1920 census claims both parents born in Austria.
1930 census claims both parents born in Poland
1910 census states 1872, Austria.
1915 census states 1875, Austria.
1920 census states 1870, Austria.
1925 census states 1870, Austria.
1930 census states 1872, Poland.
Death certificate supports 1872.
Immigration
1910 census states 1888.1915 census states 1883.
1920 census states 1900.
1925 census states 1890.
1930 census states 1886.
Marriage
1910 census suggests 1892 and states no children1930 census suggests 1895
Residence (family)
1920 census states he owns the house; 1930 census states that he is renting.Oddly at this time, another Louis Turtel lives uptown. Incredibly, his wife is named Tillie.
Naturalization
Stated as naturalized in 1910 census.Stated as citizen in 1915 census.
Stated as alien in 1920 census.
Stated as citizen naturalized in 1900 in 1925 census.
Stated as naturalized in 1930 census
Occupation
1920 census states he owns the house; 1930 census states that he is renting.Residence (family)
The 1930 census shows that he is renting this home. However, the indicated rent is much higher than that of the neighbors. Furthermore, the previous census states that Louis owned this same home. So I conclude that the entry is in error and that the value has a misplaced (or misread decimal point) and should be read as $15000 rather than 150.00.So, now the question is whether the number $15,000 is impossibly high.
Alt name
1930 censusEndnotes
1. Ancestry.com, 1920 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010), Year: 1920; Census Place: Manhattan Assembly District 8, New York, New York; Roll: T625_1199; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 596.
2. Ancestry.com, New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948 (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014).
3. Ancestry.com, 1910 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006), Year: 1910; Census Place: Manhattan Ward 17, New York, New York; Roll: T624_1033; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 0916; FHL microfilm: 1375046.
4. Ancestry.com, 1910 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006), Year: 1910; Census Place: Manhattan Ward 17, New York, New York; Roll: T624_1033; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 0916; FHL microfilm: 1375046.
5. Ancestry.com, 1920 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010), Year: 1920; Census Place: Manhattan Assembly District 8, New York, New York; Roll: T625_1199; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 596.
6. Ancestry.com, 1910 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006), Year: 1910; Census Place: Manhattan Ward 17, New York, New York; Roll: T624_1033; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 0916; FHL microfilm: 1375046.
7. Census 1910, Manhattan, New York City, New York, population schedule, Ward 17, enumeration district (ED) SD 1, ED 916, sheet 8B, dwelling 14, family 124, Louis Turtel family (FHL microfilm 1,375,046); database, Family Search (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M57W-F77 : accessed 29 June 2015); citing NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
8. "New York, State Census, 1915," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org: accessed 30 June 2015), p 70, line 33, Louis Tuttle family (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K9KN-Y3L); citing "New York, State Census, 1915," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2012 and New York State Archives, Albany.
9. Census 1920, Manhattan, New York City, New York, population schedule, Assembly District 8, enumeration district (ED) 596, sheet 2A, dwelling 2, family 1, Louis Turtel family, FHL microfilm 1,821,199; database, Family Search (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJYR-QXS : accessed 29 June 2015); citing NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
10. Ancestry.com, 1920 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010), Year: 1920; Census Place: Manhattan Assembly District 8, New York, New York; Roll: T625_1199; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 596.
11. Census 1920, Manhattan, New York City, New York, population schedule, Assembly District 8, enumeration district (ED) 596, sheet 2A, dwelling 2, family 1, Louis Turtel family, FHL microfilm 1,821,199; database, Family Search (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJYR-QXS : accessed 29 June 2015); citing NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
12. "New York, State Census, 1925," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org: accessed 30 June 2015), AD 8, ED 3, p 34, line 33, Louis Turtle family (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KS3Y-H9R); citing "New York, State Census, 1925," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2012) and New York State Archives, Albany.
13. Census 1930, Manhattan, New York City, New York, population schedule, Assembly District 8, enumeration district (ED) SD 21, ED 31-219, sheet 14A, dwelling 29, family 343, Louis Turtle family; database with images, Family Search (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4KY-5N9 : accessed 29 June 2015); citing NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002).
14. Census 1930, Manhattan, New York City, New York, population schedule, Assembly District 8, enumeration district (ED) SD 21, ED 31-219, sheet 14A, dwelling 29, family 343, Louis Turtle family; database with images, Family Search (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4KY-5N9 : accessed 29 June 2015); citing NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002).
15. "New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948," online index database, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014, Ancestry.com (http://search.ancestry.com: accessed 15 November 2015), Louis Turtel, 7 Oct 1936, Manhattan, certificate # 21990; citing Index to New York City Deaths 1862-1948 (Indices prepared by the Italian Genealogical Group and the German Genealogy Group).
18. Find A Grave, Inc., Find A Grave, index and digital images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 15 November 2015), Louis Turtel, memorial # 81033092.