Individual Details
William de Ferrers
(1240 - 24 Jan 1288)
thePeerage.com
William de Ferrers1
M, #38160, b. circa 1240, d. before 24 January 1298/99
Last Edited=7 Sep 2011
Consanguinity Index=1.59%
William de Ferrers was born circa 1240.2 He was the son of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby and Margaret de Quincy.2 He married, secondly, Eleanor de Lovaine, daughter of Sir Matthew de Lovaine.3 He died before 24 January 1298/99.4
He lived at Groby, Leicestershire, England.1
Child of William de Ferrers and Joan le Despencer
Anne de Ferrers+1
Child of William de Ferrers
William de Ferrers, 1st Lord Ferrers (of Groby)+5 b. 30 Jan 1271/72, d. 20 Mar 1324/25
Citations
[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume II, page 3. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume V, page 340.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume V, page 341.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume V, page 342.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume V, page 343.
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Groby Castle & Hall
http://www.groby.org.uk/history/old_hall.html
Little remains of Groby Castle except for a large mound of earth at the rear of the present Manor House known as Groby Hall. The castle mound thrown up in 1086 had a short period of use as it was demolished on the orders of Henry II between 1154 and 1189
Groby Manor House, known today as Groby Hall is a Grade II* listed building which stands in the centre of the village. The outer shell hides a much earlier building, earlier than the red brick work of the late 15th century and the early 16th century recycled stone materials collected by both Thomas Grey’s, marquis of Dorset 1st and 2nd and reused within its fabric. The wide spacious ground floor rooms beyond the entrance very probably contain remnants of a building erected shortly after the castle tower was pulled down in 1172. William de Ferrers inherited the Groby and Bradgate Estates in 1279 and the Old Hall
In 1446 Sir Edward Grey became Lord Ferrers of Groby by right of his wife Elizabeth Ferrers.
The decline of the Old Ferrers Hall into a more modest farm house began around 1478 when John Bourchier – younger son of the Earl of Essex, second husband of Elizabeth Grey, left the Groby area. Thomas Grey, 1st Marquis of Dorset had begun to prepare the Old Hall for leasing sometime around 1495 but his efforts were unsuccessful. He died in 1501 and his son Thomas 2nd marquis was equally unable to lease the old buildings.
With the Old Hall down and all suitable stone taken away, a new hall was built/refurbished using both brick and stone gathered from other parts of the Grey’s estates.
Briefly, his mother Cecily Bonville died in May 1529 and Thomas Grey 2nd marquis in June 1530 so Thomas 2nd marquis had very little time to enjoy his longed for inheritance. Thomas was succeeded by his eldest son Henry, Duke of Suffolk and father of Lady Jane Grey both of whom would lose their heads in February 1554. The Crown took over the Grey estates and Groby Hall was reported as down and fit only for resale as building materials in 1577
In 1668 Groby Old Hall is described briefly as, 'much decayed' but a William Barradall had been leasing the building since 1653 and Mr Martin of Anstey is mentioned as renting the Groby Hall, Orchard and Dowry field for £15.00 per annum in June 1679.
Although the records concerning the Old Hall are incomplete, it does appear to have been unoccupied and in decay for long periods after it was vacated in the late 15th century.
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Medieval Lands Database-Earls of Derby http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#WilliamFerrersGrobydied1287
B. LORDS FERRERS of GROBY
WILLIAM de Ferrers of Groby, Leicestershire, son of WILLIAM Ferrers Earl of Derby & his second wife Margaret de Quincy of Winchester ([1240]-before 20 Dec 1287). His parentage is confirmed by John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) which records the marriage in 1270 of "Willelmus Ferreris, filius comitissæ de Ferreris quæ fuit filia Rogeri de Quinci constabularii Scotiæ" and "relictam Colbani nuper defuncti" and adding that he received "dignitatem constabulariæ" at the same time[414]. Inquisitions after a writ "9 Edw I" following the death 15 Apr of "Margaret de Ferrariis countess of Derbeye" name her son “William de Ferrariis...”[415].
m firstly (1270) as her second husband, ANNE, widow of COLBAN Earl of Fife, daughter of ---. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the marriage in 1270 of "Willelmus Ferreris, filius comitissæ de Ferreris quæ fuit filia Rogeri de Quinci constabularii Scotiæ" and "relictam Colbani nuper defuncti et dignitatem constabulariæ"[416].
m secondly as her first husband, ELEANOR de Lovaine, daughter of MATTHEW de Lovaine & his wife Muriel --- (-after 3 May 1326, bur Dunmow Priory). She married secondly (before 28 Jan 1289) as his [second] wife, William Douglas of Douglas "le Hardi". Edward I King of England wrote to the Guardians of Scotland 27 Mar 1289 regarding "Alianora quæ fuit uxor Willelmi de Ferariis" who was abducted by "Willelmus ‘de’ Duglas" after the death of her husband from "manerio…Elenæ la Zusche, de Travernant"[417]. She married thirdly (before 6 Oct 1305) William Bagot.
William & his first wife had children:
1. WILLIAM de Ferrers of Groby (Yoxall, Staffordshire 30 Jan 1272-20 Mar 1325). He was summoned to Parliament from 1299 whereby he is held to have become Lord Ferrers [of Groby]. m ELLEN, daughter of --- (-after 9 Feb 1317). William & his wife had children:
a) HENRY de Ferrers ([1302/03]-Groby 15 Sep 1343, bur Ulverscroft Priory). He succeeded his father as Lord Ferrers [of Groby]. m (before 20 Feb 1331) ISABEL de Verdun, daughter of THEOBALD de Verdun Lord Verdun & his second wife Elizabeth de Clare (Amesbury, Wiltshire 21 Mar 1317-25 Jul 1349). Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the will of "Elizabeth de Burg Lady of Clare", dated 25 Sep 1355, proved 3 Dec 1360, which bequeathed property to “dame Elizabeth countess of Ulster, the debt which my son, her father, owed me at his death...my daughter Bardolf...Monsr John Bardolf and to my said daughter his wife...my joesne fille Isabel Bardolf to her marriage, Agnes her sister to her marriage...Monsieur William de Ferrers...Monsr Thomas Furnival...my daughter Countess of Athol...”[418]. Henry & his wife had children:
i) WILLIAM de Ferrers (Newbold Verdon, Leicestershire 28 Feb 1333-Stebbing 8 Jan 1371). He succeeded his father as Lord Ferrers [of Groby].
- see below.
ii) PHILIPPA de Ferrers (-before 10 Aug 1384). The will of "William Ferrers Lord of Groby", dated 1 Jun 1368, proved 19 Jul 1372, chose burial “in the Conventual Church of our Lady at Ulvescroft”, bequeathed property to “Elizabeth my daughter a nun at the Minories, London...Margaret my wife...Philippa de Beauchamp my sister...Elizabeth d’Assells my sister...”[419]. The will of "Guy de Beauchamp Knt", dated 26 Sep 1359, bequeathed property to “the Earl my father...the Countess my mother, Philippa my wife...Katherine my daughter a nun at Shouldham...Margaret my daughter...”[420]. m (before 1353) GUY de Beauchamp, son of THOMAS Beauchamp Earl of Warwick & his wife Katherine de Mortimer (-France 28 Apr 1360, bur Vendôme).
iii) ELIZABETH de Ferrers . The will of "William Ferrers Lord of Groby", dated 1 Jun 1368, proved 19 Jul 1372, chose burial “in the Conventual Church of our Lady at Ulvescroft”, bequeathed property to “Elizabeth my daughter a nun at the Minories, London...Margaret my wife...Philippa de Beauchamp my sister...Elizabeth d’Assells my sister...”[421].
b) RALPH de Ferrers (-after 6 Nov 1375). The will of "Edward Lord Despenser Lord of Glamorgan and Morgannock", dated 6 Nov 1375, chose burial “in the abbey of Tewksbury”, bequeathed property to “Elizabeth my wife...Ralf de Ferrers my uncle...John d’Odingsells”[422].
c) ANNE de Ferrers (-8 Aug 1367). The Chronica de Fundatoribus et Fundatione of Tewkesbury Abbey records that “Edwardus…primus, frater Hugonis tertii” married “Anna filia domini de Ferrers”[423]. m (Groby 20 Apr 1335) EDWARD Le Despencer, son of HUGH Le Despencer Lord Le Despencer & his wife Eleanor de Clare of the Earls of Gloucester (-killed in battle Morlaix 30 Sep 1342).
2. [ANNE . The Complete Peerage states that John Lord Grey of Wilton married “(it is said) Anne da. of William de Ferrers of Groby Leicester by his 1st wife Anne...” but does not provide the basis for this speculation[424]. m as his first wife, JOHN de Grey Lord Grey (of Wilton), ).]
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From FindAGrave
Birth: 1240
Woodham Ferrers
Essex, England
Death: Jan. 24, 1288
Groby
Leicestershire, England
Family links:
Parents:
William Ferrers (1193 - 1254)
Margaret De Quincy Ferrers (1218 - 1281)
Spouse:
Anne Le Despenser De Ferrers (1248 - 1280)*
Children:
William De Ferrers (1272 - 1325)*
Siblings:
Joan Ferrers Berkeley (____ - 1309)*
Agnes de Ferrieres (1224 - 1290)**
Eleanor de Ferrieres (1232 - 1274)**
Joan de Ferrieres (1233 - 1267)**
Robert de Ferrers (1239 - 1279)*
William De Ferrers (1240 - 1288)
*Calculated relationship
**Half-sibling
Burial:
St Philip and St James Church
Groby
Hinckley and Bosworth Borough
Leicestershire, England
Created by: Bill Velde
Record added: Jun 20, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 71688990
William de Ferrers1
M, #38160, b. circa 1240, d. before 24 January 1298/99
Last Edited=7 Sep 2011
Consanguinity Index=1.59%
William de Ferrers was born circa 1240.2 He was the son of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby and Margaret de Quincy.2 He married, secondly, Eleanor de Lovaine, daughter of Sir Matthew de Lovaine.3 He died before 24 January 1298/99.4
He lived at Groby, Leicestershire, England.1
Child of William de Ferrers and Joan le Despencer
Anne de Ferrers+1
Child of William de Ferrers
William de Ferrers, 1st Lord Ferrers (of Groby)+5 b. 30 Jan 1271/72, d. 20 Mar 1324/25
Citations
[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume II, page 3. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume V, page 340.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume V, page 341.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume V, page 342.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume V, page 343.
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Groby Castle & Hall
http://www.groby.org.uk/history/old_hall.html
Little remains of Groby Castle except for a large mound of earth at the rear of the present Manor House known as Groby Hall. The castle mound thrown up in 1086 had a short period of use as it was demolished on the orders of Henry II between 1154 and 1189
Groby Manor House, known today as Groby Hall is a Grade II* listed building which stands in the centre of the village. The outer shell hides a much earlier building, earlier than the red brick work of the late 15th century and the early 16th century recycled stone materials collected by both Thomas Grey’s, marquis of Dorset 1st and 2nd and reused within its fabric. The wide spacious ground floor rooms beyond the entrance very probably contain remnants of a building erected shortly after the castle tower was pulled down in 1172. William de Ferrers inherited the Groby and Bradgate Estates in 1279 and the Old Hall
In 1446 Sir Edward Grey became Lord Ferrers of Groby by right of his wife Elizabeth Ferrers.
The decline of the Old Ferrers Hall into a more modest farm house began around 1478 when John Bourchier – younger son of the Earl of Essex, second husband of Elizabeth Grey, left the Groby area. Thomas Grey, 1st Marquis of Dorset had begun to prepare the Old Hall for leasing sometime around 1495 but his efforts were unsuccessful. He died in 1501 and his son Thomas 2nd marquis was equally unable to lease the old buildings.
With the Old Hall down and all suitable stone taken away, a new hall was built/refurbished using both brick and stone gathered from other parts of the Grey’s estates.
Briefly, his mother Cecily Bonville died in May 1529 and Thomas Grey 2nd marquis in June 1530 so Thomas 2nd marquis had very little time to enjoy his longed for inheritance. Thomas was succeeded by his eldest son Henry, Duke of Suffolk and father of Lady Jane Grey both of whom would lose their heads in February 1554. The Crown took over the Grey estates and Groby Hall was reported as down and fit only for resale as building materials in 1577
In 1668 Groby Old Hall is described briefly as, 'much decayed' but a William Barradall had been leasing the building since 1653 and Mr Martin of Anstey is mentioned as renting the Groby Hall, Orchard and Dowry field for £15.00 per annum in June 1679.
Although the records concerning the Old Hall are incomplete, it does appear to have been unoccupied and in decay for long periods after it was vacated in the late 15th century.
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Medieval Lands Database-Earls of Derby http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#WilliamFerrersGrobydied1287
B. LORDS FERRERS of GROBY
WILLIAM de Ferrers of Groby, Leicestershire, son of WILLIAM Ferrers Earl of Derby & his second wife Margaret de Quincy of Winchester ([1240]-before 20 Dec 1287). His parentage is confirmed by John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) which records the marriage in 1270 of "Willelmus Ferreris, filius comitissæ de Ferreris quæ fuit filia Rogeri de Quinci constabularii Scotiæ" and "relictam Colbani nuper defuncti" and adding that he received "dignitatem constabulariæ" at the same time[414]. Inquisitions after a writ "9 Edw I" following the death 15 Apr of "Margaret de Ferrariis countess of Derbeye" name her son “William de Ferrariis...”[415].
m firstly (1270) as her second husband, ANNE, widow of COLBAN Earl of Fife, daughter of ---. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the marriage in 1270 of "Willelmus Ferreris, filius comitissæ de Ferreris quæ fuit filia Rogeri de Quinci constabularii Scotiæ" and "relictam Colbani nuper defuncti et dignitatem constabulariæ"[416].
m secondly as her first husband, ELEANOR de Lovaine, daughter of MATTHEW de Lovaine & his wife Muriel --- (-after 3 May 1326, bur Dunmow Priory). She married secondly (before 28 Jan 1289) as his [second] wife, William Douglas of Douglas "le Hardi". Edward I King of England wrote to the Guardians of Scotland 27 Mar 1289 regarding "Alianora quæ fuit uxor Willelmi de Ferariis" who was abducted by "Willelmus ‘de’ Duglas" after the death of her husband from "manerio…Elenæ la Zusche, de Travernant"[417]. She married thirdly (before 6 Oct 1305) William Bagot.
William & his first wife had children:
1. WILLIAM de Ferrers of Groby (Yoxall, Staffordshire 30 Jan 1272-20 Mar 1325). He was summoned to Parliament from 1299 whereby he is held to have become Lord Ferrers [of Groby]. m ELLEN, daughter of --- (-after 9 Feb 1317). William & his wife had children:
a) HENRY de Ferrers ([1302/03]-Groby 15 Sep 1343, bur Ulverscroft Priory). He succeeded his father as Lord Ferrers [of Groby]. m (before 20 Feb 1331) ISABEL de Verdun, daughter of THEOBALD de Verdun Lord Verdun & his second wife Elizabeth de Clare (Amesbury, Wiltshire 21 Mar 1317-25 Jul 1349). Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the will of "Elizabeth de Burg Lady of Clare", dated 25 Sep 1355, proved 3 Dec 1360, which bequeathed property to “dame Elizabeth countess of Ulster, the debt which my son, her father, owed me at his death...my daughter Bardolf...Monsr John Bardolf and to my said daughter his wife...my joesne fille Isabel Bardolf to her marriage, Agnes her sister to her marriage...Monsieur William de Ferrers...Monsr Thomas Furnival...my daughter Countess of Athol...”[418]. Henry & his wife had children:
i) WILLIAM de Ferrers (Newbold Verdon, Leicestershire 28 Feb 1333-Stebbing 8 Jan 1371). He succeeded his father as Lord Ferrers [of Groby].
- see below.
ii) PHILIPPA de Ferrers (-before 10 Aug 1384). The will of "William Ferrers Lord of Groby", dated 1 Jun 1368, proved 19 Jul 1372, chose burial “in the Conventual Church of our Lady at Ulvescroft”, bequeathed property to “Elizabeth my daughter a nun at the Minories, London...Margaret my wife...Philippa de Beauchamp my sister...Elizabeth d’Assells my sister...”[419]. The will of "Guy de Beauchamp Knt", dated 26 Sep 1359, bequeathed property to “the Earl my father...the Countess my mother, Philippa my wife...Katherine my daughter a nun at Shouldham...Margaret my daughter...”[420]. m (before 1353) GUY de Beauchamp, son of THOMAS Beauchamp Earl of Warwick & his wife Katherine de Mortimer (-France 28 Apr 1360, bur Vendôme).
iii) ELIZABETH de Ferrers . The will of "William Ferrers Lord of Groby", dated 1 Jun 1368, proved 19 Jul 1372, chose burial “in the Conventual Church of our Lady at Ulvescroft”, bequeathed property to “Elizabeth my daughter a nun at the Minories, London...Margaret my wife...Philippa de Beauchamp my sister...Elizabeth d’Assells my sister...”[421].
b) RALPH de Ferrers (-after 6 Nov 1375). The will of "Edward Lord Despenser Lord of Glamorgan and Morgannock", dated 6 Nov 1375, chose burial “in the abbey of Tewksbury”, bequeathed property to “Elizabeth my wife...Ralf de Ferrers my uncle...John d’Odingsells”[422].
c) ANNE de Ferrers (-8 Aug 1367). The Chronica de Fundatoribus et Fundatione of Tewkesbury Abbey records that “Edwardus…primus, frater Hugonis tertii” married “Anna filia domini de Ferrers”[423]. m (Groby 20 Apr 1335) EDWARD Le Despencer, son of HUGH Le Despencer Lord Le Despencer & his wife Eleanor de Clare of the Earls of Gloucester (-killed in battle Morlaix 30 Sep 1342).
2. [ANNE . The Complete Peerage states that John Lord Grey of Wilton married “(it is said) Anne da. of William de Ferrers of Groby Leicester by his 1st wife Anne...” but does not provide the basis for this speculation[424]. m as his first wife, JOHN de Grey Lord Grey (of Wilton), ).]
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From FindAGrave
Birth: 1240
Woodham Ferrers
Essex, England
Death: Jan. 24, 1288
Groby
Leicestershire, England
Family links:
Parents:
William Ferrers (1193 - 1254)
Margaret De Quincy Ferrers (1218 - 1281)
Spouse:
Anne Le Despenser De Ferrers (1248 - 1280)*
Children:
William De Ferrers (1272 - 1325)*
Siblings:
Joan Ferrers Berkeley (____ - 1309)*
Agnes de Ferrieres (1224 - 1290)**
Eleanor de Ferrieres (1232 - 1274)**
Joan de Ferrieres (1233 - 1267)**
Robert de Ferrers (1239 - 1279)*
William De Ferrers (1240 - 1288)
*Calculated relationship
**Half-sibling
Burial:
St Philip and St James Church
Groby
Hinckley and Bosworth Borough
Leicestershire, England
Created by: Bill Velde
Record added: Jun 20, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 71688990
Events
| Birth | 1240 | Woodham Ferrers, Essex, England | |||
| Death | 24 Jan 1288 | Groby, Leicestershire, England | |||
| Alt name | Willelmus Ferreris | ||||
| Burial | St Philip and St James Church, Groby, Hinckley and Bosworth Borough, Leicestershire, England |
Families
| Spouse | Eleanor de Lovaine ( - ) |
| Child | William de Ferrers (1272 - 1325) |
| Spouse | Joan le Despencer ( - ) |
| Child | Anne de Ferrers ( - ) |
| Father | William de Ferrers (1193 - 1254) |
| Mother | Margaret de Quincey (1218 - 1284) |
| Sibling | Joan de Ferrers ( - 1309) |
| Sibling | Robert de Ferrers (1239 - 1274) |