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Idonea Lacy
(Abt 1223 - )
==Biography==Idonea Lacy was the daughter of [[Lacy-284|Sir John de Lacy, 7th Earl of Lincoln]], born circa 1192, died 22 July 1240, Magna Carta Surety, and his wife, [[Quincy-238|Margaret de Quincy]], born 1208, died before 30 March 1266.[[#Lewis|Lewis]]
Idonea Lacie married twice:
#Roger de Camville;#Geoffrey de Dutton, died circa 1248, son of Adam de Dutton and his wife, Agnes FitzAlured, with whom Idonea had children:
##Matilda Dutton;
##Geoffrey de Dutton, died 1277;
== Sources ==
See also:* Pedigree Resource File CD 49 (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2002) * Ancestral File(TM) (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998)* Harleian Society. ''The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580'', [[Space:The Publicatons of The Harleian Society|The Publicatons of The Harleian Society]] (London: The Society, 1882) [https://books.google.com/books?id=hlYN_LmEu8YC&pg=PA6 Vol. 18, Page 6]: "The Barons of Dalton, Constables of Chester. [Harl. 1424, fo. 3b. Harl. 1505, fo. 2b.]" "Idonin nupta Rogero D'no Camville"* Marlyn Lewis, ''[http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p391.htm#i11736 Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors]'' citing Langston, Aileen Lewers. & Buck, J. Orton, Jr., comp. ''Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants'', Vol. III, p. 168, and Wurts, John S. ''Magna Charta'' (Brookfield Publishing Company, 1945) p. 1005.
==Biography==Idonea Lacy was the daughter of [[Lacy-284|Sir John de Lacy, 7th Earl of Lincoln]], born circa 1192, died 22 July 1240, Magna Carta Surety, and his wife, [[Quincy-238|Margaret de Quincy]], born 1208, died before 30 March 1266.[[#Lewis|Lewis]]
== Notes ==
On the visitation pedigree, below, [[Lacy-883|Idonia]] is the daughter of Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s second wife, [[Aigle-2|Alicia]] and marries a [[Camville-17|Roger]] de Camville. Richardson has [[Aigle-2|Alice]] as [[Lacy-284|John]]'s first wife, and states there was no issue from that union. He doesn't include a daughter, Idonia, for [[Lacy-284|John]], at all. However, he has stated that there are two other daughters. From: "Douglas Richardson", Subject: Complete Peerage Addition: Children of John de Lacy, Date: 3 Oct 2005 08:52:31 -0700 [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2005-10/1128354751]
While she may be one of those unnamed daughters, the source used for her marriage to any Geoffery Dutton, seems to be based on an error.
Marlyn cites ''Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants'', Vol. III, p. 168. However, that entry confuses two different John de Lacys and two different Geoffrey Duttons.
Firstly, it calls her "Alice (Idonia) de Lacy". Secondly, it marries her to the Crusader Geoffrey Dutton who dies in 1248.
That would be this [[Lacy-124|Alice]], daughter of Crusader, [[Lacy-276|John de Lacy]], Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s aunt.
There's no evidence "Idonia" married a Geoffrey Dutton, and Alice is, most definitely, not Magna Carta John's daughter.
:"The old Crusader [Geoffrey Dutton] is believed to have married Alice, daughter of John de Lacy, Baron of Halton, by whom he had a son, Geoffrey, who succeeded at his death, about the year 1248, and was in turn the father of a Sir Peter..." County Families of Lancashire and Cheshire, p 219 [https://books.google.ca/books?id=C9UKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA219]
That [[De_Dutton-57|Geoffrey]] is down from [[Dutton-1308|Hugh II]]'s son, [[Dutton-1307|Adam]], not down from his son, [[Dutton-1050|Hugh III]]. A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, p 824 [https://archive.org/stream/agenealogicalan05burkgoog#page/n824/mode/1up]
== Sources ==
==Biography==Idonea Lacy was the daughter of [[Lacy-284|Sir John de Lacy, 7th Earl of Lincoln]], born circa 1192, died 22 July 1240, Magna Carta Surety, and his wife, [[Quincy-238|Margaret de Quincy]], born 1208, died before 30 March 1266.[[#Lewis|Lewis]]
== Notes ==
On the visitation pedigree, below, [[Lacy-883|Idonia]] is the daughter of Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s second wife, [[Aigle-2|Alicia]] and marries a [[Camville-17|Roger]] de Camville. Richardson has [[Aigle-2|Alice]] as [[Lacy-284|John]]'s first wife, and states there was no issue from that union. He doesn't include a daughter, Idonia, for [[Lacy-284|John]], at all. However, he has stated that there are two other daughters. From: "Douglas Richardson", Subject: Complete Peerage Addition: Children of John de Lacy, Date: 3 Oct 2005 08:52:31 -0700 [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2005-10/1128354751]
While she may be one of those unnamed daughters, the source used for her marriage to any Geoffery Dutton, seems to be based on an error.
Marlyn cites ''Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants'', Vol. III, p. 168. However, that entry confuses two different John de Lacys and two different Geoffrey Duttons.
Firstly, it calls her "Alice (Idonia) de Lacy". Secondly, it marries her to the Crusader Geoffrey Dutton who dies in 1248.
That would be this [[Lacy-124|Alice]], daughter of Crusader, [[Lacy-276|John de Lacy]], Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s aunt.
There's no evidence "Idonia" married a Geoffrey Dutton, and Alice is, most definitely, not Magna Carta John's daughter.
:"The old Crusader [Geoffrey Dutton] is believed to have married Alice, daughter of John de Lacy, Baron of Halton, by whom he had a son, Geoffrey, who succeeded at his death, about the year 1248, and was in turn the father of a Sir Peter..." County Families of Lancashire and Cheshire, p 219 [https://books.google.ca/books?id=C9UKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA219]
That [[De_Dutton-57|Geoffrey]] is down from [[Dutton-1308|Hugh II]]'s son, [[Dutton-1307|Adam]], not down from his son, [[Dutton-1050|Hugh III]]. A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, p 824 [https://archive.org/stream/agenealogicalan05burkgoog#page/n824/mode/1up]
== Sources ==
==Biography==Idonea Lacy was the daughter of [[Lacy-284|Sir John de Lacy, 7th Earl of Lincoln]], born circa 1192, died 22 July 1240, Magna Carta Surety, and his wife, [[Quincy-238|Margaret de Quincy]], born 1208, died before 30 March 1266.[[#Lewis|Lewis]]
== Notes ==
On the visitation pedigree, below, [[Lacy-883|Idonia]] is the daughter of Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s second wife, [[Aigle-2|Alicia]] and marries a [[Camville-17|Roger]] de Camville. Richardson has [[Aigle-2|Alice]] as [[Lacy-284|John]]'s first wife, and states there was no issue from that union. He doesn't include a daughter, Idonia, for [[Lacy-284|John]], at all. However, he has stated that there are two other daughters. From: "Douglas Richardson", Subject: Complete Peerage Addition: Children of John de Lacy, Date: 3 Oct 2005 08:52:31 -0700 [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2005-10/1128354751]
While she may be one of those unnamed daughters, the source used for her marriage to any Geoffery Dutton, seems to be based on an error.
Marlyn cites ''Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants'', Vol. III, p. 168. However, that entry confuses two different John de Lacys and two different Geoffrey Duttons.
Firstly, it calls her "Alice (Idonia) de Lacy". Secondly, it marries her to the Crusader Geoffrey Dutton who dies in 1248.
That would be this [[Lacy-124|Alice]], daughter of Crusader, [[Lacy-276|John de Lacy]], Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s aunt.
There's no evidence "Idonia" married a Geoffrey Dutton, and Alice is, most definitely, not Magna Carta John's daughter.
:"The old Crusader [Geoffrey Dutton] is believed to have married Alice, daughter of John de Lacy, Baron of Halton, by whom he had a son, Geoffrey, who succeeded at his death, about the year 1248, and was in turn the father of a Sir Peter..." County Families of Lancashire and Cheshire, p 219 [https://books.google.ca/books?id=C9UKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA219]
That [[De_Dutton-57|Geoffrey]] is down from [[Dutton-1308|Hugh II]]'s son, [[Dutton-1307|Adam]], not down from his son, [[Dutton-1050|Hugh III]]. A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, p 824 [https://archive.org/stream/agenealogicalan05burkgoog#page/n824/mode/1up]
== Sources ==
Idonea Lacie married twice:
#Roger de Camville;#Geoffrey de Dutton, died circa 1248, son of Adam de Dutton and his wife, Agnes FitzAlured, with whom Idonea had children:
##Matilda Dutton;
##Geoffrey de Dutton, died 1277;
== Sources ==
See also:* Pedigree Resource File CD 49 (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2002) * Ancestral File(TM) (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998)* Harleian Society. ''The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580'', [[Space:The Publicatons of The Harleian Society|The Publicatons of The Harleian Society]] (London: The Society, 1882) [https://books.google.com/books?id=hlYN_LmEu8YC&pg=PA6 Vol. 18, Page 6]: "The Barons of Dalton, Constables of Chester. [Harl. 1424, fo. 3b. Harl. 1505, fo. 2b.]" "Idonin nupta Rogero D'no Camville"* Marlyn Lewis, ''[http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p391.htm#i11736 Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors]'' citing Langston, Aileen Lewers. & Buck, J. Orton, Jr., comp. ''Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants'', Vol. III, p. 168, and Wurts, John S. ''Magna Charta'' (Brookfield Publishing Company, 1945) p. 1005.
==Biography==Idonea Lacy was the daughter of [[Lacy-284|Sir John de Lacy, 7th Earl of Lincoln]], born circa 1192, died 22 July 1240, Magna Carta Surety, and his wife, [[Quincy-238|Margaret de Quincy]], born 1208, died before 30 March 1266.[[#Lewis|Lewis]]
== Notes ==
On the visitation pedigree, below, [[Lacy-883|Idonia]] is the daughter of Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s second wife, [[Aigle-2|Alicia]] and marries a [[Camville-17|Roger]] de Camville. Richardson has [[Aigle-2|Alice]] as [[Lacy-284|John]]'s first wife, and states there was no issue from that union. He doesn't include a daughter, Idonia, for [[Lacy-284|John]], at all. However, he has stated that there are two other daughters. From: "Douglas Richardson", Subject: Complete Peerage Addition: Children of John de Lacy, Date: 3 Oct 2005 08:52:31 -0700 [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2005-10/1128354751]
While she may be one of those unnamed daughters, the source used for her marriage to any Geoffery Dutton, seems to be based on an error.
Marlyn cites ''Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants'', Vol. III, p. 168. However, that entry confuses two different John de Lacys and two different Geoffrey Duttons.
Firstly, it calls her "Alice (Idonia) de Lacy". Secondly, it marries her to the Crusader Geoffrey Dutton who dies in 1248.
That would be this [[Lacy-124|Alice]], daughter of Crusader, [[Lacy-276|John de Lacy]], Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s aunt.
There's no evidence "Idonia" married a Geoffrey Dutton, and Alice is, most definitely, not Magna Carta John's daughter.
:"The old Crusader [Geoffrey Dutton] is believed to have married Alice, daughter of John de Lacy, Baron of Halton, by whom he had a son, Geoffrey, who succeeded at his death, about the year 1248, and was in turn the father of a Sir Peter..." County Families of Lancashire and Cheshire, p 219 [https://books.google.ca/books?id=C9UKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA219]
That [[De_Dutton-57|Geoffrey]] is down from [[Dutton-1308|Hugh II]]'s son, [[Dutton-1307|Adam]], not down from his son, [[Dutton-1050|Hugh III]]. A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, p 824 [https://archive.org/stream/agenealogicalan05burkgoog#page/n824/mode/1up]
== Sources ==
==Biography==Idonea Lacy was the daughter of [[Lacy-284|Sir John de Lacy, 7th Earl of Lincoln]], born circa 1192, died 22 July 1240, Magna Carta Surety, and his wife, [[Quincy-238|Margaret de Quincy]], born 1208, died before 30 March 1266.[[#Lewis|Lewis]]
== Notes ==
On the visitation pedigree, below, [[Lacy-883|Idonia]] is the daughter of Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s second wife, [[Aigle-2|Alicia]] and marries a [[Camville-17|Roger]] de Camville. Richardson has [[Aigle-2|Alice]] as [[Lacy-284|John]]'s first wife, and states there was no issue from that union. He doesn't include a daughter, Idonia, for [[Lacy-284|John]], at all. However, he has stated that there are two other daughters. From: "Douglas Richardson", Subject: Complete Peerage Addition: Children of John de Lacy, Date: 3 Oct 2005 08:52:31 -0700 [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2005-10/1128354751]
While she may be one of those unnamed daughters, the source used for her marriage to any Geoffery Dutton, seems to be based on an error.
Marlyn cites ''Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants'', Vol. III, p. 168. However, that entry confuses two different John de Lacys and two different Geoffrey Duttons.
Firstly, it calls her "Alice (Idonia) de Lacy". Secondly, it marries her to the Crusader Geoffrey Dutton who dies in 1248.
That would be this [[Lacy-124|Alice]], daughter of Crusader, [[Lacy-276|John de Lacy]], Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s aunt.
There's no evidence "Idonia" married a Geoffrey Dutton, and Alice is, most definitely, not Magna Carta John's daughter.
:"The old Crusader [Geoffrey Dutton] is believed to have married Alice, daughter of John de Lacy, Baron of Halton, by whom he had a son, Geoffrey, who succeeded at his death, about the year 1248, and was in turn the father of a Sir Peter..." County Families of Lancashire and Cheshire, p 219 [https://books.google.ca/books?id=C9UKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA219]
That [[De_Dutton-57|Geoffrey]] is down from [[Dutton-1308|Hugh II]]'s son, [[Dutton-1307|Adam]], not down from his son, [[Dutton-1050|Hugh III]]. A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, p 824 [https://archive.org/stream/agenealogicalan05burkgoog#page/n824/mode/1up]
== Sources ==
==Biography==Idonea Lacy was the daughter of [[Lacy-284|Sir John de Lacy, 7th Earl of Lincoln]], born circa 1192, died 22 July 1240, Magna Carta Surety, and his wife, [[Quincy-238|Margaret de Quincy]], born 1208, died before 30 March 1266.[[#Lewis|Lewis]]
== Notes ==
On the visitation pedigree, below, [[Lacy-883|Idonia]] is the daughter of Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s second wife, [[Aigle-2|Alicia]] and marries a [[Camville-17|Roger]] de Camville. Richardson has [[Aigle-2|Alice]] as [[Lacy-284|John]]'s first wife, and states there was no issue from that union. He doesn't include a daughter, Idonia, for [[Lacy-284|John]], at all. However, he has stated that there are two other daughters. From: "Douglas Richardson", Subject: Complete Peerage Addition: Children of John de Lacy, Date: 3 Oct 2005 08:52:31 -0700 [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2005-10/1128354751]
While she may be one of those unnamed daughters, the source used for her marriage to any Geoffery Dutton, seems to be based on an error.
Marlyn cites ''Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants'', Vol. III, p. 168. However, that entry confuses two different John de Lacys and two different Geoffrey Duttons.
Firstly, it calls her "Alice (Idonia) de Lacy". Secondly, it marries her to the Crusader Geoffrey Dutton who dies in 1248.
That would be this [[Lacy-124|Alice]], daughter of Crusader, [[Lacy-276|John de Lacy]], Magna Carta [[Lacy-284|John]]'s aunt.
There's no evidence "Idonia" married a Geoffrey Dutton, and Alice is, most definitely, not Magna Carta John's daughter.
:"The old Crusader [Geoffrey Dutton] is believed to have married Alice, daughter of John de Lacy, Baron of Halton, by whom he had a son, Geoffrey, who succeeded at his death, about the year 1248, and was in turn the father of a Sir Peter..." County Families of Lancashire and Cheshire, p 219 [https://books.google.ca/books?id=C9UKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA219]
That [[De_Dutton-57|Geoffrey]] is down from [[Dutton-1308|Hugh II]]'s son, [[Dutton-1307|Adam]], not down from his son, [[Dutton-1050|Hugh III]]. A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, p 824 [https://archive.org/stream/agenealogicalan05burkgoog#page/n824/mode/1up]
== Sources ==
Events
| Birth | Abt 1223 | Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England |
Families
| Father | Sir John "John of Chester, Earl of Lincoln, Constable of Chester" Lacy Knt (1192 - 1240) |
| Mother | Margaret Quincy (1217 - 1266) |
| Sibling | Maud Lacy (1222 - 1289) |
| Sibling | Edmund Lacy (1230 - 1258) |