Individual Details
William ap John
(1482 - 1586)
[[Category: Wonastow, Monmouthshire]]
[[Category: Treowen, Wales]]
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== Biography =="William ap John Thomas (fl. 1556) of Treowen, Monmouthshire, alias William Jones, was the first of his family to assume a surname, and left issue by four wives and at least one concubine. William's eldest son, John Jones (d. pre 1609), succeeded his father at Treowen. Blanche, the only child of William's first marriage, had Castell Arnallt and married Rowland Morgan of Machen, Monmouthshire. The property devolved on their descendants, the Morgan family, barons Tredegar. Philip Jones (d. 1603), John's half-brother... was MP for the Monmouth boroughs 1588-1593."[http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?inst_id=36&coll_id=1180&expand= Gwent Archives], Llanarth Court MSS (accessed Dec. 23, 2015); November 24, 2016, link went to search page, but archive.org had a capture, accessed via the [https://web.archive.org/web/20120523033419/http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?inst_id=36&coll_id=1180&expand= WayBack Machine]
=== Parents ===:Anne, daughter of David ap Gwillim Morgan, Esq., of Arxton, co. Hereford, married John ap Thomas. William was their first-born son and heir.John Burke, Bernard Burke, ''A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland, Volume 1'' ([https://books.google.com/books?id=C8fTAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA659&lpg=PA659&dq=John+ap+Thomas+of+Llanarth&source=bl&ots=W9LVtFsQn8&sig=pNWRgZzFa7jbTnxZAtoLrYy-LXc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjP1_TQvfPJAhWEOCYKHaI4Db4Q6AEIMzAE#v=onepage&q=%22blanch%20Morgan%22&f=false p 659])
: '''Birth''': His parents were said to have married in 1482,[http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5007/GODWIN%203%28F1%29_763.png?sequence=4&isAllowed=y Godwin 3(F1)] ([[#Bartrum]], citation "LPM") putting his birth after that date.
=== Children ===
: William had 16 children, including Blanche by his first wife, Elizabeth Herbert; three sons named John - two by wives and the third by a mistress; and two daughters named Elsbeth.[http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5007/GODWIN%203%28F2%29_764.png?sequence=3&isAllowed=y Godwin 3(F2)] ([[#Bartrum]])
: by Elizabeth Herbert:* Blanche Jones, married Rowland Morgan
: by Constance Morgan:
* John Jones
* Charles Jones
* Walter Jones
* William Jones
* Catrin Jones
* Ann Jones
* Thomas Jones
:by Ann Hawley* Philip JonesHistory of Parliament Online: [http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/jones-philip-1603 Philip Jones (d 1603)]
* John Jones
* Elsbeth Jones
: by a mistress or unnamed wife* Richard Jones, by Jonet ferch William Wogan
* John Jones, by a mistress
* Elsbeth Jones, by a mistress
* Harry Jones ''mother not indicated''* Alswn Jones by Jonet ferch William Wogan"Alswn" is the Welsh form of Alice, according to ''A History of the Older Nonconformity of Wrexham and Its Neibourhood'' ([https://books.google.com/books?id=XyQLAAAAYAAJ&dq=History+of+the+Older+Nonconformity+of+Wrexham+and+Its+Neibourhood+alswn&source=gbs_navlinks_s Google Book], p 138), but another [https://books.google.com/books?id=GzYawdzshXAC&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=welsh+alswn&source=bl&ots=dWc5sr1JCf&sig=knm1AQ8j5gZ_5MiBspiJ-3TtdBc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjll7Wz8MDQAhUGPiYKHYD4CZUQ6AEIKTAB#v=onepage&q=welsh%20alswn&f=false Google Book], ''Welsh Poems, Sixth Century to 1600,'' by Gwyn Williams, mentions both Alswn and Alis: "...see Welsh forms of Norman-French girls' names Sioned, Annes, Alswn, Alis, and Isabel take their place alongside the accustomed Gwenhwyfar, Gwenllian and Nest."
== Research Notes ==
The order of his wives is not the same in all sources.
Blanche who married Rowland Morgan is said to be daughter of this William by his first wife. A different source shows the Blanche who married Rowland Morgan as the daughter of "John Thomas, of Llanarth."''Historic Homes and Institutions and Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worcester County, Massachusetts: With a History of Worcester Society of Antiquity,'' Volume 1, edited by Ellery Bicknell Crane, [https://books.google.com/books?id=QKorAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA103&lpg=PA103&dq=%22John+Thomas+of+Llanarth%22&source=bl&ots=K73d7IBbp4&sig=52Svdjc6qIgYBXTUNUbDq9XN57s&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGhuyIuPPJAhVFNSYKHRBoAowQ6AEIIjAB#v=onepage&q=%22John%20Thomas%20of%20Llanarth%22&f=false p 103] (Lewis Publishing Company, 1907)
== Sources ==
: See also:* Lewys Dwnn's ''Heraldic visitations of Wales and part of the marches between the years 1586 and 1613,'' Vol. 1, [https://archive.org/stream/HeraldicVisitationsOfWalesAndPartOfTheMarchesBetweenTheYears1586/HeraldicVisitationsOfWalesAndPartOfTheMarchesBetweenTheYears1586And1613ByLewysDwnnVol.1#page/n223/mode/1up/search/%22william+jones%22 page 196]
[[Category: Treowen, Wales]]
}
== Biography =="William ap John Thomas (fl. 1556) of Treowen, Monmouthshire, alias William Jones, was the first of his family to assume a surname, and left issue by four wives and at least one concubine. William's eldest son, John Jones (d. pre 1609), succeeded his father at Treowen. Blanche, the only child of William's first marriage, had Castell Arnallt and married Rowland Morgan of Machen, Monmouthshire. The property devolved on their descendants, the Morgan family, barons Tredegar. Philip Jones (d. 1603), John's half-brother... was MP for the Monmouth boroughs 1588-1593."[http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?inst_id=36&coll_id=1180&expand= Gwent Archives], Llanarth Court MSS (accessed Dec. 23, 2015); November 24, 2016, link went to search page, but archive.org had a capture, accessed via the [https://web.archive.org/web/20120523033419/http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?inst_id=36&coll_id=1180&expand= WayBack Machine]
=== Parents ===:Anne, daughter of David ap Gwillim Morgan, Esq., of Arxton, co. Hereford, married John ap Thomas. William was their first-born son and heir.John Burke, Bernard Burke, ''A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland, Volume 1'' ([https://books.google.com/books?id=C8fTAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA659&lpg=PA659&dq=John+ap+Thomas+of+Llanarth&source=bl&ots=W9LVtFsQn8&sig=pNWRgZzFa7jbTnxZAtoLrYy-LXc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjP1_TQvfPJAhWEOCYKHaI4Db4Q6AEIMzAE#v=onepage&q=%22blanch%20Morgan%22&f=false p 659])
: '''Birth''': His parents were said to have married in 1482,[http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5007/GODWIN%203%28F1%29_763.png?sequence=4&isAllowed=y Godwin 3(F1)] ([[#Bartrum]], citation "LPM") putting his birth after that date.
=== Children ===
: William had 16 children, including Blanche by his first wife, Elizabeth Herbert; three sons named John - two by wives and the third by a mistress; and two daughters named Elsbeth.[http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5007/GODWIN%203%28F2%29_764.png?sequence=3&isAllowed=y Godwin 3(F2)] ([[#Bartrum]])
: by Elizabeth Herbert:* Blanche Jones, married Rowland Morgan
: by Constance Morgan:
* John Jones
* Charles Jones
* Walter Jones
* William Jones
* Catrin Jones
* Ann Jones
* Thomas Jones
:by Ann Hawley* Philip JonesHistory of Parliament Online: [http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/jones-philip-1603 Philip Jones (d 1603)]
* John Jones
* Elsbeth Jones
: by a mistress or unnamed wife* Richard Jones, by Jonet ferch William Wogan
* John Jones, by a mistress
* Elsbeth Jones, by a mistress
* Harry Jones ''mother not indicated''* Alswn Jones by Jonet ferch William Wogan"Alswn" is the Welsh form of Alice, according to ''A History of the Older Nonconformity of Wrexham and Its Neibourhood'' ([https://books.google.com/books?id=XyQLAAAAYAAJ&dq=History+of+the+Older+Nonconformity+of+Wrexham+and+Its+Neibourhood+alswn&source=gbs_navlinks_s Google Book], p 138), but another [https://books.google.com/books?id=GzYawdzshXAC&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=welsh+alswn&source=bl&ots=dWc5sr1JCf&sig=knm1AQ8j5gZ_5MiBspiJ-3TtdBc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjll7Wz8MDQAhUGPiYKHYD4CZUQ6AEIKTAB#v=onepage&q=welsh%20alswn&f=false Google Book], ''Welsh Poems, Sixth Century to 1600,'' by Gwyn Williams, mentions both Alswn and Alis: "...see Welsh forms of Norman-French girls' names Sioned, Annes, Alswn, Alis, and Isabel take their place alongside the accustomed Gwenhwyfar, Gwenllian and Nest."
== Research Notes ==
The order of his wives is not the same in all sources.
Blanche who married Rowland Morgan is said to be daughter of this William by his first wife. A different source shows the Blanche who married Rowland Morgan as the daughter of "John Thomas, of Llanarth."''Historic Homes and Institutions and Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worcester County, Massachusetts: With a History of Worcester Society of Antiquity,'' Volume 1, edited by Ellery Bicknell Crane, [https://books.google.com/books?id=QKorAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA103&lpg=PA103&dq=%22John+Thomas+of+Llanarth%22&source=bl&ots=K73d7IBbp4&sig=52Svdjc6qIgYBXTUNUbDq9XN57s&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGhuyIuPPJAhVFNSYKHRBoAowQ6AEIIjAB#v=onepage&q=%22John%20Thomas%20of%20Llanarth%22&f=false p 103] (Lewis Publishing Company, 1907)
== Sources ==
: See also:* Lewys Dwnn's ''Heraldic visitations of Wales and part of the marches between the years 1586 and 1613,'' Vol. 1, [https://archive.org/stream/HeraldicVisitationsOfWalesAndPartOfTheMarchesBetweenTheYears1586/HeraldicVisitationsOfWalesAndPartOfTheMarchesBetweenTheYears1586And1613ByLewysDwnnVol.1#page/n223/mode/1up/search/%22william+jones%22 page 196]
Events
| Birth | 1482 | Tre Owen, Mitchell Troy, Monmouthshire, Wales | |||
| Marriage | 1511 | Wonastow, Monmouthshire, Wales - Elizabeth Herbert | |||
| Marriage | 1528 | Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales - Ann Hawley | |||
| Marriage | 1545 | England - Constance Morgan | |||
| Death | 1586 | Wonastow, Monmouthshire, Wales | |||
| Reference No | 19890555 | ||||
| Reference No | 21574807 | ||||
| Reference No | 60 |
Families
| Spouse | Elizabeth Herbert (1487 - 1516) |
| Child | Blanch Jones (1512 - 1549) |
| Spouse | Constance Morgan (1524 - 1577) |
| Child | Walter Jones ( - 1607) |
| Child | Living |
| Child | William Jones (1545 - 1610) |
| Child | John "of Treowen" Jones (1545 - 1604) |
| Child | Richard Jones (1494 - 1559) |
| Child | Elizabeth Jones (1507 - ) |
| Child | John Jones (1520 - ) |
| Spouse | Ann Hawley (1510 - ) |
| Child | Philip Jones (1531 - 1603) |
| Father | John ap Thomas (1450 - ) |
| Mother | Anne ferch Dafydd (1461 - 1516) |
| Sibling | Dafydd "David" Jones ( - 1560) |