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Elizabeth Keith
(Aft 1379 - Abt 1456)
[[Category:Declaration of Arbroath, Edward Keith Family Worklist]]
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== Biography ==}
Daughter of Sir Robert Keith & Matilda Urquhart, Heiress of Troup.
1411. Charter by Sir Robert de Keth, Mareschall of Scotland, by which he grants to his daughter, Elizabeth, and Alexand de Irwyn of Drum, in contemplation of their marriage, lands in the barony of Strathkyn in Co. of Kyncardine. Page 41-42, Forbes Leslie.
It is probable that Sir Alexander Irvine had arranged the contract of the marriage of his son and successor with the daughter of Sir Robert Keith, the Marischal, by which the blood-feud between the Keiths and Irvines was to lapse, but that the sudden call to arms, consequent on the irruption of Donald of the Isles, prevented its completion, and that Sir Alexander's last injunctions were that, if he and his eldest son, Alexander, fell in the impending conflict, his next son, Robert, should fulfil the contract and marry Elizabeth Keith. This appears to me a simple explanation, in strict accordance with facts, of the origin of the tradition that existed from an early period, and was then embodied in history, that, on the fall of Sir Alexander Irvine at Harlaw, his brother Robert — in con- sequence of the wish of deceased expressed when sitting on the Drum Stone — changed his name to Alexander, and married Elizabeth Keith, the virgin widow of his elder brother. Forbes-Leslie page 36.
The extinction of the feud between the families is referred to in the marriage contract of the Alexander Irvine who succeeded to Drum in consequence of the death of Sir Alexander at Harlaw. This deed is dated 16th October, 1411 — less than three months after the battle. Forbes-Leslie page 36, footnote 3.
Former genealogies and histories (some of them of considerable antiquity) have recorded that Sir Alexander Irvine, who fell at Harlaw, was married (in 1404) to Elizabeth Keith, daughter of the Marisohal ; that they never lived together ; that after his death, in 1411, his virgin widow — according to his last request — was married to his brother and successor, who then changed his name from Robert to Alexander in order to fulfil the former marriage contract. It is not from the change of his Christian name, nor even from the marriage of a widow to the brother of her first husband, strange as such acts may now appear, that I was led to disbelieve this double alliance ; for like oases about that period may be found in the history of noble Scottish families; but it is from arguments and evidence which I think conclusive that I have adopted the genealogy of the text. Former genealogies all call the son of William de Irwin " Alexander," and say that his wife was a daughter of Sir Robert Keith, the Marischal, who was killed at Durham in 1346. I have already remarked that the name Alexander is disproved by the monumental brass of Sir Alexander who succeeded in 1411, besides which Sir Robert Keith had no daughter. She might have been his sister; but if so, as their father died before 1324, it will be seen that the date is inconsistent with events in the account of Sir Alexander who succeeded to Drum in 1411, and died in 1457, and who has hitherto been called the brother of his predecessor, and, therefore, the son of this lady. Neither is it likely that there were two brothers of the name of Robert, for it was not a common family name ; and the deed of 1424, referred to in the preceding note, shows that the Alexander who is said to have changed his name from Robert had a brother of that name. The marriage contract of Sir Alexander Irvine and Elizabeth Keith, dated 16th October, 1411, is still extant in duplicate, but in it there is no reference whatever to a former marriage, which, had the marriage taken place, could hardly have been avoided, as considerable estates were transferred as part of the lady's dower. In addition to these facts and arguments there is now the direct evider.ee of the fragment of an ancient genealogy, lately found, which states that the only daughter of " Monteford, a famous knight," was the wife of Sir Alexander Irvine, who fell at Harlaw ; and that " Alexander Irvine, his son, married the Marischal's daughter " ; and on the 12th May, 1331, the Bishop and Chapter of Aberdeen granted a charter to William de Irwyn and the three next heirs in descent from him (" Willelmo de Irwyn et tribus heredibus successive desoendentibus ") of the lands of Dulmaoch, etc., the last of whom succeeded after Harlaw, and, on 18th November, 1452, resigned all right to these lands, which thereafter were held for service, and by consent of the Bishop. Forbes-Leslie page 37, footnote 2.
From the above it is possible to see that Alexander Irvine was married twice:
First to a daughter of " Monteford
Second to Elizabeth Keith. Therefore children were not born to Elizabeth Keith but to the daughter of Monteford.
==Sources==
* The Irvines of Drum and colleteral branch by Jonathan Forbes Leslie, 1798-1877. (Including the deeds and charters from the Drum Achieves) Pub 1909, Aberdeen.
* The Scottish Nation or the historical and genealogical account of all Scottish families and surnames, Vol II BAL-MAC, Pages 537 to 544. James MacVeigh, Pub 1889, Dumfries.
* http://www.thepeerage.com/p48590.htm#i485892
* http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=148062710
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== Biography ==}
Daughter of Sir Robert Keith & Matilda Urquhart, Heiress of Troup.
1411. Charter by Sir Robert de Keth, Mareschall of Scotland, by which he grants to his daughter, Elizabeth, and Alexand de Irwyn of Drum, in contemplation of their marriage, lands in the barony of Strathkyn in Co. of Kyncardine. Page 41-42, Forbes Leslie.
It is probable that Sir Alexander Irvine had arranged the contract of the marriage of his son and successor with the daughter of Sir Robert Keith, the Marischal, by which the blood-feud between the Keiths and Irvines was to lapse, but that the sudden call to arms, consequent on the irruption of Donald of the Isles, prevented its completion, and that Sir Alexander's last injunctions were that, if he and his eldest son, Alexander, fell in the impending conflict, his next son, Robert, should fulfil the contract and marry Elizabeth Keith. This appears to me a simple explanation, in strict accordance with facts, of the origin of the tradition that existed from an early period, and was then embodied in history, that, on the fall of Sir Alexander Irvine at Harlaw, his brother Robert — in con- sequence of the wish of deceased expressed when sitting on the Drum Stone — changed his name to Alexander, and married Elizabeth Keith, the virgin widow of his elder brother. Forbes-Leslie page 36.
The extinction of the feud between the families is referred to in the marriage contract of the Alexander Irvine who succeeded to Drum in consequence of the death of Sir Alexander at Harlaw. This deed is dated 16th October, 1411 — less than three months after the battle. Forbes-Leslie page 36, footnote 3.
Former genealogies and histories (some of them of considerable antiquity) have recorded that Sir Alexander Irvine, who fell at Harlaw, was married (in 1404) to Elizabeth Keith, daughter of the Marisohal ; that they never lived together ; that after his death, in 1411, his virgin widow — according to his last request — was married to his brother and successor, who then changed his name from Robert to Alexander in order to fulfil the former marriage contract. It is not from the change of his Christian name, nor even from the marriage of a widow to the brother of her first husband, strange as such acts may now appear, that I was led to disbelieve this double alliance ; for like oases about that period may be found in the history of noble Scottish families; but it is from arguments and evidence which I think conclusive that I have adopted the genealogy of the text. Former genealogies all call the son of William de Irwin " Alexander," and say that his wife was a daughter of Sir Robert Keith, the Marischal, who was killed at Durham in 1346. I have already remarked that the name Alexander is disproved by the monumental brass of Sir Alexander who succeeded in 1411, besides which Sir Robert Keith had no daughter. She might have been his sister; but if so, as their father died before 1324, it will be seen that the date is inconsistent with events in the account of Sir Alexander who succeeded to Drum in 1411, and died in 1457, and who has hitherto been called the brother of his predecessor, and, therefore, the son of this lady. Neither is it likely that there were two brothers of the name of Robert, for it was not a common family name ; and the deed of 1424, referred to in the preceding note, shows that the Alexander who is said to have changed his name from Robert had a brother of that name. The marriage contract of Sir Alexander Irvine and Elizabeth Keith, dated 16th October, 1411, is still extant in duplicate, but in it there is no reference whatever to a former marriage, which, had the marriage taken place, could hardly have been avoided, as considerable estates were transferred as part of the lady's dower. In addition to these facts and arguments there is now the direct evider.ee of the fragment of an ancient genealogy, lately found, which states that the only daughter of " Monteford, a famous knight," was the wife of Sir Alexander Irvine, who fell at Harlaw ; and that " Alexander Irvine, his son, married the Marischal's daughter " ; and on the 12th May, 1331, the Bishop and Chapter of Aberdeen granted a charter to William de Irwyn and the three next heirs in descent from him (" Willelmo de Irwyn et tribus heredibus successive desoendentibus ") of the lands of Dulmaoch, etc., the last of whom succeeded after Harlaw, and, on 18th November, 1452, resigned all right to these lands, which thereafter were held for service, and by consent of the Bishop. Forbes-Leslie page 37, footnote 2.
From the above it is possible to see that Alexander Irvine was married twice:
First to a daughter of " Monteford
Second to Elizabeth Keith. Therefore children were not born to Elizabeth Keith but to the daughter of Monteford.
==Sources==
* The Irvines of Drum and colleteral branch by Jonathan Forbes Leslie, 1798-1877. (Including the deeds and charters from the Drum Achieves) Pub 1909, Aberdeen.
* The Scottish Nation or the historical and genealogical account of all Scottish families and surnames, Vol II BAL-MAC, Pages 537 to 544. James MacVeigh, Pub 1889, Dumfries.
* http://www.thepeerage.com/p48590.htm#i485892
* http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=148062710
Events
| Birth | Aft 1379 | Scotland | |||
| Death | Abt 1456 | Drum, Aberdeenshire, Scotland | |||
| Reference No | 12478896 | ||||
| Reference No | 13305496 | ||||
| Reference No | 60 |
Families
| Father | Sir Robert "Marischal of Scotland" Keith (1363 - 1430) |
| Mother | Heiress Troup (1363 - 1442) |
| Sibling | Sir William "Great Earl Marischal" Keith (1389 - 1464) |