Individual Details
John Glen
(Abt 1275 - )
[[Category:Clan Glen]]
[[Category:Battle of Bannockburn]]
----'''NOTICE:''' There is very little original source material for the early family of Glen. There is a publication [https://archive.org/details/memorialsofscglen00roge Memorials of the Scottish family of Glen] available but which is not detailed and largely inaccurate. There is another published genealogical research paper [https://journals.psu.edu/pmhb/article/viewFile/27085/26841 Genealogical Notes Regarding the Family of Glen, of Glenn] by Thomas Allen Glenn which is more informative and is used, in the main, as the major source work.
== Biography ==
John de le Glen was likely born c. 1275, at the family estates at Lochwinnoc in Renfrewshire. There is no definitive source for his birth but he was certainly nearly of age in 1292 when his father died and the estates appear in a purchase of ward, by Richard Fraser, on 14 November 1292, on payment of 100 merks.Stevenson, Docs., i, no. 301; cited from People of Medieval Scotland transaction factoid, [http://db.poms.ac.uk/record/factoid/77296/ no. 77296] In this Charter it is clearly stated that Richard de Glen was dead and that he had heirs, not named, which, at that time, were not yet of age, but Fraser was provided ward of lands and marriage.
His name is provided in a preceding Charter when his father must have returned to the "peace of the King", c. early November 1292, as his lands appear, under a grant, by Edward I. in 12 November 1292, where his father appears under the designation of Richard de le Glen, "Lord of the Glen, in name and lands". In this Charter the lands are confirmed, to be held of the King (in capite) by John de le Glen, his son and heir, his lands being called Gaytflat, in the tenure of the Glen. It also provides that Robert Nase and Cubinus were Richard's predecessors.Glenn; [https://journals.psu.edu/pmhb/article/viewFile/27085/26841 Genealogical Notes Regarding the Family of Glen, of Glenn] His mother's name is not provided.
There is no evidence to show that he came of these lands and it would seem likely be supported the National Party, first Wallace and then, later, Bruce. He appears as such in a Charter, dated to 1306,Documents and Records Illustrating the History of Scotland,....; Palgrave; Volume 1; [https://archive.org/stream/documentsandrec00britgoog#page/n642/mode/2up Charter 150, page 340 - 350] when Edward I. takes action against Robert Wishart, Bishop of Glasgow. This Charter record suggests that during the revolt of Wallace, 1297 & 1298, John Glen commanded a detachment of troops of Robert Wishart. The action, against Wishart, provides that the said Bishop directed William Lydel, his Bailiff, to muster his forces, directing that they march under John de Glen against the Prince of Wales, soon to be Edward II.
Thomas Allen Glenn, citing Palgrave, indicates that John de le Glen received a grant of the forfeited lands of Balmutache (Bulmato) in Fife, from Robert I. (Bruce) suggesting an involvement at the [[:Category:Battle of Bannockburn|Battle of Bannockburn]]
===Family===Thomas Allen Glenn mentions that John de le Glen married an heiress of Abernethy. Her name is not provided in source. She could not have been one of the heiresses of Abernethy. These were daughters to [[Abernethy-188|Alexander Abernethy]] and are recorded as Margaret and Mary. It must be presumed that the Abernethy wife to John was born c. 1275/1280, if their son is to marry a daughter of Robert Bruce prior to his death. This would make her a sister to Alexander and not his daughters, although Abernethy died c. 1315/1317, thus possibly accounting for the thought of heiress as the daughters were young at this time.
They had one son, at least:
: [[Glen-154|Robert Glen]].
Thomas Allen Glenn also suggests another son:
: Roger Glen. He received an annuity from the Crown of 100 shillings in 1329 and, in 1332, rendered the accounts of the Provosts of Peebles. Roger seems to have died s. p.. It seems more probable that he was from the other Glen family, that of Peebleshire.
===Relationship with Robert Bruce===There must have been a very strong relationship between John de le Glen and Robert Bruce. History records, although Thomas Allen Glenn misunderstood, that Margaret Bruce, an illegitimate daughter to Bruce by an unknown mother, married Robert, the eldest son to John. There are numerous Charters to the couple from her half-brother King David II., discussed on [[Glen-154|his Profile page]]. Legend also suggests, and recorded in Glenn's work, that Robert de Glen was one of those who accompanied the heart of Bruce to the Holy Land, and the Linlithgow line used two crests, one a martlet; the other an arm, the hand grasping a heart, in commemoration of that event.There is, apparently, an iron seal in possession of a descendant. The arms of Linlithgow branch are identical with those of Bar. Further, the Glens of Bar (a holding of this line of the family) possessed the sword of Bruce, which a descendant carried to Ireland, in 1606, the inscription on the blade apparently leaving no doubt as to its original ownership.
== Sources ==
===References===
===Source===
* [https://archive.org/details/memorialsofscglen00roge Memorials of the Scottish family of Glen]
* [https://journals.psu.edu/pmhb/article/viewFile/27085/26841 Genealogical Notes Regarding the Family of Glen, of Glenn Genealogical Notes Regarding the Family of Glen, of Glenn] by Thomas Allen Glenn
===Acknowledgements===
[[Category:Battle of Bannockburn]]
----'''NOTICE:''' There is very little original source material for the early family of Glen. There is a publication [https://archive.org/details/memorialsofscglen00roge Memorials of the Scottish family of Glen] available but which is not detailed and largely inaccurate. There is another published genealogical research paper [https://journals.psu.edu/pmhb/article/viewFile/27085/26841 Genealogical Notes Regarding the Family of Glen, of Glenn] by Thomas Allen Glenn which is more informative and is used, in the main, as the major source work.
== Biography ==
John de le Glen was likely born c. 1275, at the family estates at Lochwinnoc in Renfrewshire. There is no definitive source for his birth but he was certainly nearly of age in 1292 when his father died and the estates appear in a purchase of ward, by Richard Fraser, on 14 November 1292, on payment of 100 merks.Stevenson, Docs., i, no. 301; cited from People of Medieval Scotland transaction factoid, [http://db.poms.ac.uk/record/factoid/77296/ no. 77296] In this Charter it is clearly stated that Richard de Glen was dead and that he had heirs, not named, which, at that time, were not yet of age, but Fraser was provided ward of lands and marriage.
His name is provided in a preceding Charter when his father must have returned to the "peace of the King", c. early November 1292, as his lands appear, under a grant, by Edward I. in 12 November 1292, where his father appears under the designation of Richard de le Glen, "Lord of the Glen, in name and lands". In this Charter the lands are confirmed, to be held of the King (in capite) by John de le Glen, his son and heir, his lands being called Gaytflat, in the tenure of the Glen. It also provides that Robert Nase and Cubinus were Richard's predecessors.Glenn; [https://journals.psu.edu/pmhb/article/viewFile/27085/26841 Genealogical Notes Regarding the Family of Glen, of Glenn] His mother's name is not provided.
There is no evidence to show that he came of these lands and it would seem likely be supported the National Party, first Wallace and then, later, Bruce. He appears as such in a Charter, dated to 1306,Documents and Records Illustrating the History of Scotland,....; Palgrave; Volume 1; [https://archive.org/stream/documentsandrec00britgoog#page/n642/mode/2up Charter 150, page 340 - 350] when Edward I. takes action against Robert Wishart, Bishop of Glasgow. This Charter record suggests that during the revolt of Wallace, 1297 & 1298, John Glen commanded a detachment of troops of Robert Wishart. The action, against Wishart, provides that the said Bishop directed William Lydel, his Bailiff, to muster his forces, directing that they march under John de Glen against the Prince of Wales, soon to be Edward II.
Thomas Allen Glenn, citing Palgrave, indicates that John de le Glen received a grant of the forfeited lands of Balmutache (Bulmato) in Fife, from Robert I. (Bruce) suggesting an involvement at the [[:Category:Battle of Bannockburn|Battle of Bannockburn]]
===Family===Thomas Allen Glenn mentions that John de le Glen married an heiress of Abernethy. Her name is not provided in source. She could not have been one of the heiresses of Abernethy. These were daughters to [[Abernethy-188|Alexander Abernethy]] and are recorded as Margaret and Mary. It must be presumed that the Abernethy wife to John was born c. 1275/1280, if their son is to marry a daughter of Robert Bruce prior to his death. This would make her a sister to Alexander and not his daughters, although Abernethy died c. 1315/1317, thus possibly accounting for the thought of heiress as the daughters were young at this time.
They had one son, at least:
: [[Glen-154|Robert Glen]].
Thomas Allen Glenn also suggests another son:
: Roger Glen. He received an annuity from the Crown of 100 shillings in 1329 and, in 1332, rendered the accounts of the Provosts of Peebles. Roger seems to have died s. p.. It seems more probable that he was from the other Glen family, that of Peebleshire.
===Relationship with Robert Bruce===There must have been a very strong relationship between John de le Glen and Robert Bruce. History records, although Thomas Allen Glenn misunderstood, that Margaret Bruce, an illegitimate daughter to Bruce by an unknown mother, married Robert, the eldest son to John. There are numerous Charters to the couple from her half-brother King David II., discussed on [[Glen-154|his Profile page]]. Legend also suggests, and recorded in Glenn's work, that Robert de Glen was one of those who accompanied the heart of Bruce to the Holy Land, and the Linlithgow line used two crests, one a martlet; the other an arm, the hand grasping a heart, in commemoration of that event.There is, apparently, an iron seal in possession of a descendant. The arms of Linlithgow branch are identical with those of Bar. Further, the Glens of Bar (a holding of this line of the family) possessed the sword of Bruce, which a descendant carried to Ireland, in 1606, the inscription on the blade apparently leaving no doubt as to its original ownership.
== Sources ==
===References===
===Source===
* [https://archive.org/details/memorialsofscglen00roge Memorials of the Scottish family of Glen]
* [https://journals.psu.edu/pmhb/article/viewFile/27085/26841 Genealogical Notes Regarding the Family of Glen, of Glenn Genealogical Notes Regarding the Family of Glen, of Glenn] by Thomas Allen Glenn
===Acknowledgements===
Events
| Birth | Abt 1275 | Lochwinnoc, Renfrewshire, Scotland | |||
| Birth | Abt 1275 | ||||
| Marriage | 1310 | Unknown Abernethy | |||
| Death | Lochwinnoc, Renfrewshire, Scotland | ||||
| Reference No | 10341079 | ||||
| Reference No | |||||
| Reference No | 60 | ||||
| Reference No | 10933442 |
Families
| Spouse | Unknown Abernethy (1285 - 1320) |
| Child | Robert Glen (1300 - 1345) |
| Father | Richard Glen (1248 - 1292) |