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John Mor Tanister "Eòin Mòr Tànaiste or Iain MacDhòmhnaill" MacDonald
(Abt 1371 - 1427)
}[[Category:Clan MacDonald]][[Category:Laird of Dunnyveg]][[Category:Battle of Harlaw]]
== Bibliography ==John Mor Tanistear (John de Yle) is the second son of [[Macdonald-91|John Macdonald]] through his second wife [[Stewart-556|Margaret Stewart]]. He was founder of Macdonald of Dunnyveg and from whom the Earl of Antrim, the Macdonalds of Largy, and Sann, are descended. He was known as Lord of Dunnyveg and the Glens.
Following his marriage, about 1400, John Mor received from his father 120 marklands, or about 3,600 acres, in Kintyre, and also 60 marklands, or about 1,800 acres in Islay. as a result they were also known at ''Lords of Islay and Kintyre'', a title by which they were more familiarlyknown in Scotland. John was not happy with this alotment and he rebelled against his brother, [[MacDonald-337|Donald Balloch, Lord of the Isles]]. In the ensuing battle John Mor was defeated and had to flee to Galloway.
The following is an interesting story which has not been verified: ''On thedeposition of [[Plantagenet-864|Richard II]]., both John and his brother Donald transferred their alliance to his successor, [[Lancaster-434|Henry IV]]. Twice during the year 1400 they visited the Court of the new King. It is somewhat remarkable that in these circumstances the dethroned King Richard should, after his escape from Pontefract Castle, have found his way to the distant Island of Isla, and, in the guise of a beggar, entered by a back door the residence of the Lord of the Isles at Finlaggan. Yet so it was. The Lady of Dunnyveg, who had formerly seen the deposed monarch in Ireland, readily recognised him, though in such humble guise. The Lord of the Isles and John Mor, who had frequently visited the unfortunate monarch's Court in the days of his prosperity, received him now in the hour of adversity with all due respect.'' Clan Donald: Volume 2, p. 543
Note: Bower, a contemporary historian who in 1418 was Abbot of Inchcolm Abbey, stated that Richard did escape from Pontefract and travelled in disguise to the Scottish isles. He was recognised by someone who had sat at the court of the king, and Donald, Lord of the Isles, sent him, under the charge of Lord Montgomery, to King Robert III of Scotland.
Click here for additional information [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M%C3%B3r_Tanister] on Wikipedia.
''This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.''
== Sources ==Macdonald, Rev. A. and Macdonald Rev. A. (1900). ''The Clan Donald: Volume 2''. Inverness, Scotland. Northern Counties Publishing Company Ltd. http://archive.org/stream/clandonald02macd#page/n541/mode/2up
Macdonald, Rev. A. and Macdonald Rev. A. (1904). ''The Clan Donald: Volume 3''. Inverness, Scotland. Northern Counties Publishing Company Ltd.p. 374. http://archive.org/stream/clandonald03macduoft#page/374/mode/2up
''An Historical Account of the MacDonnells of Anrtim'', by Rev. George Hill, Belfast, 1873 http://archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00hill#page/20/mode/2up
John Mór Tanister. (2013, April 15). In ''Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia''. Retrieved 11:43, January 9, 2015, from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_M%C3%B3r_Tanister&oldid=550517732
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[[Category:Declaration of Arbroath, Stewart Family Worklist]]
[[Category: Clan MacDonald]]
[[Category:Laird of Dunnyveg]]
[[Category:Battle of Harlaw]]
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== Biography ==
}John Mor Tanistear (John de Yle) is the second son of [[Macdonald-91|John Macdonald]] through his second wife [[Stewart-556|Margaret Stewart]]. He was founder of Macdonald of Dunnyveg and from whom the Earl of Antrim, the Macdonalds of Largy, and Sann, are descended. He was known as Lord of Dunnyveg and the Glens. The Clan Donald: [http://archive.org/stream/clandonald03macduoft#page/374/mode/2up Volume 3; page 374]
In 1400 he was styled lord of Dunyveg and Glennis, the former being the title of a family holding on Islay, and the latter the name of the Antrim estates held through his wife. At around the same time, likely as a result of the marriage he received, from his father 120 marklands, or about 3,600 acres, in Kintyre, and also 60 marklands, or about 1,800 acres in Islay. An historical account of the Macdonnells of Antrim; [http://archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00hill#page/26/mode/2up page 26] As a result of his father's grants he, and his family, became known as "Lords of Isla and Kintyre". On his death, or more likely the death of his wife, the lands of The Glens returned to the Bissets (see note below).
John was not happy with this allotment and he rebelled against his brother, [[MacDonald-337|Donald Balloch, Lord of the Isles]]. In the ensuing battle John Mor was defeated and had to flee to Ireland (to his father in laws lands in the Antrim Glens). In the work by George Hill "An historical account of the Macdonnells of Antrim" John Mor is said to have come into contact with the Green Abbot Finnon, by whose daughter John More had a natural son called Ranald Bane, of whom descended the house of Lairgy. An historical account of the Macdonnells of Antrim; [http://archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00hill#page/26/mode/2up page 27] At the same time the Abbot suggested that John Mor's eldest son, Donald Balloch, be fostered to the MacLean.
John returned to Scotland but was again forced to flee his brother. After withdrawing to Galloway and, chased by Donald, he withdrew to Ireland. Deciding that little was to be gained in conflict with his brother he decided to submit. MacFinnan, and his kinsman, the Green Abbot were tried for sedition. MacFinnan was hanged and the Green Abbot confined to Icolumkill.
John Mor, having allied with his brother fought with Donald at [[:Category: Battle of Harlaw|Harlaw]] in Jul 1411 where he led the reserve. After the retreat from Harlaw, John Mor also fought actions against Robert Stewart, Regent Albany during his attempts to clear Argyll.
'''Death.''' He was assassinated in 1427, by James Campbell. There is some dispute that Campbell acted on the authority of James I., King of Scotland. Certainly James had sent Campbell to arrest John Mor but the court found that Campbell had overstepped his authority in Killing John Mor. Campbell was found guily of murder and hanged under the authority of James I.. An Historical Account of the MacDonnells of Anrtim; [http://archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00hill#page/30/mode/2up page 30]Collectanea de Rebus Albanicis; [https://archive.org/stream/collectaneadere00skengoog#page/n328/mode/2up page 308] This is the John de Isla mentioned by Bain in History of the ancient province of Ross. History of the ancient province of Ross; Robert Bain; [https://archive.org/stream/historyofancient00bain#page/84/mode/2up page 84]
===Family===He married Margaret Bisset, probably shortly before 1400. She is believed to be a daughter of the MacEoin Bisset, Lord of the Glens (Ireland), and Sabia O'Neill (died 1387), a princess of the O'Neill dynasty. She was a heiress, in her own right of the Seven Glens of Antrim. They had:
* Donald Balloch, his successor. He d. 1476, married Johanna, daughter of Conn O'Neill of Edenduffcarrick.
* Ranald Bane, the ancestor of the MacDonald of Largie. There is some notice that his mother might have been a daughter of the Finnon (the Green Abbot) with whom he had a relationship but source material is unclear.
'''Note''' that although a number of sources state that John Mor, on his marriage, received, as dowry the Glens and Rathlin Island in Ireland, then becoming known as Lord of Dunnyvaig and the Glens, this is not true. He held The Glens in right of his wife and the MacEoin Bissets continued to hold the Glens of Antrim until at least as late as 1522, when the last known died in battle.
'''Historical Note:''' His wife is said to have met [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_II_of_England Richard II, King of England] while he was in Ireland, thus c. 1395. When Richard was overthrown in 1399 by Henry IV he is said to have been confined to the Tower and then to taken to Pontefract Castle shortly before the end of the year. He is thought to have been starved to death in captivity on or around 14 February 1400, although there is some question over the date and manner of his death. His body was taken south from Pontefract and displayed in the old St Paul's Cathedral on 17 February before burial in King's Langley Priory on 6 March. However rumours persisted in Scotland that he was still alive. John's wife, Margery, recognised a man whom she believed to be the deposed king travelling [dressed] as a poor man. She vouched for him, whomever he may have been, and the Scots believed her. He is said to have lived, for some time, at Stirling.
== Sources ==
See also:
* Collectanea de Rebus Albanicis; Donald Gregory; 1847, available at [https://archive.org/details/collectaneadere00skengoog archive.org]
* Macdonald, Rev. A. and Macdonald Rev. A. (1900). ''The Clan Donald: Volume 2''. Inverness, Scotland. Northern Counties Publishing Company Ltd. http://archive.org/stream/clandonald02macd#page/n541/mode/2up
* Macdonald, Rev. A. and Macdonald Rev. A. (1904). ''The Clan Donald: Volume 3''. Inverness, Scotland. Northern Counties Publishing Company Ltd.p. 374. http://archive.org/stream/clandonald03macduoft#page/374/mode/2up
* ''An Historical Account of the MacDonnells of Anrtim'', by Rev. George Hill, Belfast, 1873 http://archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00hill#page/20/mode/2up
* History of the ancient province of Ross (The County Palatine of Scotland) from the earliest times to the present time; volume= Vol. I; Robert Bain;1899; [https://archive.org/details/historyofancient00bain on archive.org]
===Links===
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M%C3%B3r_Tanister John Mór Tanister on Wikipedia]
== Bibliography ==John Mor Tanistear (John de Yle) is the second son of [[Macdonald-91|John Macdonald]] through his second wife [[Stewart-556|Margaret Stewart]]. He was founder of Macdonald of Dunnyveg and from whom the Earl of Antrim, the Macdonalds of Largy, and Sann, are descended. He was known as Lord of Dunnyveg and the Glens.
Following his marriage, about 1400, John Mor received from his father 120 marklands, or about 3,600 acres, in Kintyre, and also 60 marklands, or about 1,800 acres in Islay. as a result they were also known at ''Lords of Islay and Kintyre'', a title by which they were more familiarlyknown in Scotland. John was not happy with this alotment and he rebelled against his brother, [[MacDonald-337|Donald Balloch, Lord of the Isles]]. In the ensuing battle John Mor was defeated and had to flee to Galloway.
The following is an interesting story which has not been verified: ''On thedeposition of [[Plantagenet-864|Richard II]]., both John and his brother Donald transferred their alliance to his successor, [[Lancaster-434|Henry IV]]. Twice during the year 1400 they visited the Court of the new King. It is somewhat remarkable that in these circumstances the dethroned King Richard should, after his escape from Pontefract Castle, have found his way to the distant Island of Isla, and, in the guise of a beggar, entered by a back door the residence of the Lord of the Isles at Finlaggan. Yet so it was. The Lady of Dunnyveg, who had formerly seen the deposed monarch in Ireland, readily recognised him, though in such humble guise. The Lord of the Isles and John Mor, who had frequently visited the unfortunate monarch's Court in the days of his prosperity, received him now in the hour of adversity with all due respect.'' Clan Donald: Volume 2, p. 543
Note: Bower, a contemporary historian who in 1418 was Abbot of Inchcolm Abbey, stated that Richard did escape from Pontefract and travelled in disguise to the Scottish isles. He was recognised by someone who had sat at the court of the king, and Donald, Lord of the Isles, sent him, under the charge of Lord Montgomery, to King Robert III of Scotland.
Click here for additional information [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M%C3%B3r_Tanister] on Wikipedia.
''This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.''
== Sources ==Macdonald, Rev. A. and Macdonald Rev. A. (1900). ''The Clan Donald: Volume 2''. Inverness, Scotland. Northern Counties Publishing Company Ltd. http://archive.org/stream/clandonald02macd#page/n541/mode/2up
Macdonald, Rev. A. and Macdonald Rev. A. (1904). ''The Clan Donald: Volume 3''. Inverness, Scotland. Northern Counties Publishing Company Ltd.p. 374. http://archive.org/stream/clandonald03macduoft#page/374/mode/2up
''An Historical Account of the MacDonnells of Anrtim'', by Rev. George Hill, Belfast, 1873 http://archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00hill#page/20/mode/2up
John Mór Tanister. (2013, April 15). In ''Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia''. Retrieved 11:43, January 9, 2015, from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_M%C3%B3r_Tanister&oldid=550517732
-- MERGED NOTE ------------
[[Category:Declaration of Arbroath, Stewart Family Worklist]]
[[Category: Clan MacDonald]]
[[Category:Laird of Dunnyveg]]
[[Category:Battle of Harlaw]]
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== Biography ==
}John Mor Tanistear (John de Yle) is the second son of [[Macdonald-91|John Macdonald]] through his second wife [[Stewart-556|Margaret Stewart]]. He was founder of Macdonald of Dunnyveg and from whom the Earl of Antrim, the Macdonalds of Largy, and Sann, are descended. He was known as Lord of Dunnyveg and the Glens. The Clan Donald: [http://archive.org/stream/clandonald03macduoft#page/374/mode/2up Volume 3; page 374]
In 1400 he was styled lord of Dunyveg and Glennis, the former being the title of a family holding on Islay, and the latter the name of the Antrim estates held through his wife. At around the same time, likely as a result of the marriage he received, from his father 120 marklands, or about 3,600 acres, in Kintyre, and also 60 marklands, or about 1,800 acres in Islay. An historical account of the Macdonnells of Antrim; [http://archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00hill#page/26/mode/2up page 26] As a result of his father's grants he, and his family, became known as "Lords of Isla and Kintyre". On his death, or more likely the death of his wife, the lands of The Glens returned to the Bissets (see note below).
John was not happy with this allotment and he rebelled against his brother, [[MacDonald-337|Donald Balloch, Lord of the Isles]]. In the ensuing battle John Mor was defeated and had to flee to Ireland (to his father in laws lands in the Antrim Glens). In the work by George Hill "An historical account of the Macdonnells of Antrim" John Mor is said to have come into contact with the Green Abbot Finnon, by whose daughter John More had a natural son called Ranald Bane, of whom descended the house of Lairgy. An historical account of the Macdonnells of Antrim; [http://archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00hill#page/26/mode/2up page 27] At the same time the Abbot suggested that John Mor's eldest son, Donald Balloch, be fostered to the MacLean.
John returned to Scotland but was again forced to flee his brother. After withdrawing to Galloway and, chased by Donald, he withdrew to Ireland. Deciding that little was to be gained in conflict with his brother he decided to submit. MacFinnan, and his kinsman, the Green Abbot were tried for sedition. MacFinnan was hanged and the Green Abbot confined to Icolumkill.
John Mor, having allied with his brother fought with Donald at [[:Category: Battle of Harlaw|Harlaw]] in Jul 1411 where he led the reserve. After the retreat from Harlaw, John Mor also fought actions against Robert Stewart, Regent Albany during his attempts to clear Argyll.
'''Death.''' He was assassinated in 1427, by James Campbell. There is some dispute that Campbell acted on the authority of James I., King of Scotland. Certainly James had sent Campbell to arrest John Mor but the court found that Campbell had overstepped his authority in Killing John Mor. Campbell was found guily of murder and hanged under the authority of James I.. An Historical Account of the MacDonnells of Anrtim; [http://archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00hill#page/30/mode/2up page 30]Collectanea de Rebus Albanicis; [https://archive.org/stream/collectaneadere00skengoog#page/n328/mode/2up page 308] This is the John de Isla mentioned by Bain in History of the ancient province of Ross. History of the ancient province of Ross; Robert Bain; [https://archive.org/stream/historyofancient00bain#page/84/mode/2up page 84]
===Family===He married Margaret Bisset, probably shortly before 1400. She is believed to be a daughter of the MacEoin Bisset, Lord of the Glens (Ireland), and Sabia O'Neill (died 1387), a princess of the O'Neill dynasty. She was a heiress, in her own right of the Seven Glens of Antrim. They had:
* Donald Balloch, his successor. He d. 1476, married Johanna, daughter of Conn O'Neill of Edenduffcarrick.
* Ranald Bane, the ancestor of the MacDonald of Largie. There is some notice that his mother might have been a daughter of the Finnon (the Green Abbot) with whom he had a relationship but source material is unclear.
'''Note''' that although a number of sources state that John Mor, on his marriage, received, as dowry the Glens and Rathlin Island in Ireland, then becoming known as Lord of Dunnyvaig and the Glens, this is not true. He held The Glens in right of his wife and the MacEoin Bissets continued to hold the Glens of Antrim until at least as late as 1522, when the last known died in battle.
'''Historical Note:''' His wife is said to have met [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_II_of_England Richard II, King of England] while he was in Ireland, thus c. 1395. When Richard was overthrown in 1399 by Henry IV he is said to have been confined to the Tower and then to taken to Pontefract Castle shortly before the end of the year. He is thought to have been starved to death in captivity on or around 14 February 1400, although there is some question over the date and manner of his death. His body was taken south from Pontefract and displayed in the old St Paul's Cathedral on 17 February before burial in King's Langley Priory on 6 March. However rumours persisted in Scotland that he was still alive. John's wife, Margery, recognised a man whom she believed to be the deposed king travelling [dressed] as a poor man. She vouched for him, whomever he may have been, and the Scots believed her. He is said to have lived, for some time, at Stirling.
== Sources ==
See also:
* Collectanea de Rebus Albanicis; Donald Gregory; 1847, available at [https://archive.org/details/collectaneadere00skengoog archive.org]
* Macdonald, Rev. A. and Macdonald Rev. A. (1900). ''The Clan Donald: Volume 2''. Inverness, Scotland. Northern Counties Publishing Company Ltd. http://archive.org/stream/clandonald02macd#page/n541/mode/2up
* Macdonald, Rev. A. and Macdonald Rev. A. (1904). ''The Clan Donald: Volume 3''. Inverness, Scotland. Northern Counties Publishing Company Ltd.p. 374. http://archive.org/stream/clandonald03macduoft#page/374/mode/2up
* ''An Historical Account of the MacDonnells of Anrtim'', by Rev. George Hill, Belfast, 1873 http://archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00hill#page/20/mode/2up
* History of the ancient province of Ross (The County Palatine of Scotland) from the earliest times to the present time; volume= Vol. I; Robert Bain;1899; [https://archive.org/details/historyofancient00bain on archive.org]
===Links===
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M%C3%B3r_Tanister John Mór Tanister on Wikipedia]
Events
| Birth | Abt 1371 | Kingdom of the Isles, , , Scotland | |||
| Birth | Abt 1371 | Kingdom of the Isles, Scotland | |||
| Death | 1427 | Ard Dubh, Islay, Scotland | |||
| Alt name | John Mor "Eòin Mòr Tànaiste or Iain MacDhòmhnaill" MacDonald | ||||
| Reference No | 879042 | ||||
| Reference No | 899520 | ||||
| Reference No | 60 |
Families
| Father | John "Iain mac Aonghais MacDhòmhnaill, Eoin MacDomhnaill" Macdonald (1319 - 1387) |
| Mother | Princess Margaret "Lady Of Galloway" Stewart (1342 - 1410) |
| Sibling | Mary MacDonald (1350 - ) |
| Sibling | Margaret Macdonald (1340 - 1400) |
| Sibling | Marcus MacDonnell ( - 1397) |
| Sibling | Donald "Donald of Harlaw" Macdonald (1359 - 1423) |
| Sibling | Alexander "Lord of Lochaber" MacDonald (1365 - 1440) |
| Sibling | Margaret Macdonald (1350 - 1400) |
| Sibling | Angus "Angus MacIain" MacDonald (1367 - 1369) |
| Sibling | Hugh Macdonald (1371 - ) |
| Sibling | Elizabeth Macdonald (1377 - 1416) |