Individual Details
James Shircliffe
(Abt 1575 - )
Notes:
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:24:22 EDT
From: JJAAA5@aol.com
To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com
Subject: [MDSTMARY] Shircliffe Family
I was updating my information on the Shircliffe Family of St Mary's County and found several references to Mary Pawson, the wife or mother of the Shircliffe Immigrant to SMC, being born in Rockbridge, Virginia in 1582. I understand that it says this on her grave in England. Were there any English in Virginia then? This is several years before Jamestown.
Any thoughts?
Jerry
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: K Woodring katwoodring@yahoo.com>
To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Shircliffe Family
Jerry,
I have seen the internet posting citing Mary Pawson as John Shirtcliffe's MOTHER, but nothing about any tie to Virginia unless someone got a generation or two mixed up.
See my notes below copied from a site with only citations on John's entry and later.
I suspect that the marriage date was from parish records or Harleian Soc. Publications.
From the website address, it appears that the researcher visited the family holding mentioned and pictured. The early tree has no research citations and the link between the two John's is pure conjecture since no document ties them together.
http://www.packrat-pro.com/tree.htm>
Thomas Shiercliffe, Gent. son of Robert (7) and Mary Carr,
On 3 Dec 1601 at Ecclesfield he married Mary, d/o Thomas Pawson, aunt and co-heiress of Nicholas Pawson of Windmill Hill. Thomas died 19 Nov 1636 and was buried in South Chancel of Ecclesfield Cathedral, the burial place of the Shiercliffe family. Mary was buried at Ecclesfield 25 Sept 1647. He purchased Whitley Hall from one Parker in 1616; he also held Hole House in Ecclesfield.
Thomas and Mary Pawson were parents of:
(a) Elizabeth bapt. 31 Aug 1602, bur. 1628;
(b) Nicholas bapt. 20 Jan 1603;
(c) William bapt. 21 Aug 1606;
(d) Anne bapt. 6 Aug 1609 mar. Thomas Wright of Unthank;
(e) Margaret bapt. 8 Sept 1614 d. unm;
(f) Mary bapt? m. 13 Oct 1631 Wm Savage;
(g) Thomas of Whitley Hall bapt ? bur 14 June 1661;
(h) *John Shiercliffe.
*John Shiercliffe, son of Thomas (8) and Mary Pawson, was born some time after his parent's marriage in 1601.
He is possibly the John Shercliffe who was transported to Maryland c 1638, or the one who immigrated to Md. c1646 (MPL 1:18; 2:418, 425)
On 14 Oct 1651, John Lewger demanded land for transporting various persons including Ann, now wife of Richard Nevill, Deborah Towers, and Ann Goldsborough, now wife of John Shircliffe some 12 years hence ( i.e. earlier) (MPL ABH:150).
An extract from Thomas Stobie's GEDCOM created 1 Oct 2007. Thomas can be contacted at stobie@sprynet.com.
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©2001-2007,
Craig M. Sharrow
-- MERGED NOTE ------------
Notes:
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:24:22 EDT
From: JJAAA5@aol.com
To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com
Subject: [MDSTMARY] Shircliffe Family
I was updating my information on the Shircliffe Family of St Mary's County and found several references to Mary Pawson, the wife or mother of the Shircliffe Immigrant to SMC, being born in Rockbridge, Virginia in 1582. I understand that it says this on her grave in England. Were there any English in Virginia then? This is several years before Jamestown.
Any thoughts?
Jerry
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: K Woodring
To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Shircliffe Family
Jerry,
I have seen the internet posting citing Mary Pawson as John Shirtcliffe's MOTHER, but nothing about any tie to Virginia unless someone got a generation or two mixed up.
See my notes below copied from a site with only citations on John's entry and later.
I suspect that the marriage date was from parish records or Harleian Soc. Publications.
From the website address, it appears that the researcher visited the family holding mentioned and pictured. The early tree has no research citations and the link between the two John's is pure conjecture since no document ties them together.
Thomas Shiercliffe, Gent. son of Robert (7) and Mary Carr,
On 3 Dec 1601 at Ecclesfield he married Mary, d/o Thomas Pawson, aunt and co-heiress of Nicholas Pawson of Windmill Hill. Thomas died 19 Nov 1636 and was buried in South Chancel of Ecclesfield Cathedral, the burial place of the Shiercliffe family. Mary was buried at Ecclesfield 25 Sept 1647. He purchased Whitley Hall from one Parker in 1616; he also held Hole House in Ecclesfield.
Thomas and Mary Pawson were parents of:
(a) Elizabeth bapt. 31 Aug 1602, bur. 1628;
(b) Nicholas bapt. 20 Jan 1603;
(c) William bapt. 21 Aug 1606;
(d) Anne bapt. 6 Aug 1609 mar. Thomas Wright of Unthank;
(e) Margaret bapt. 8 Sept 1614 d. unm;
(f) Mary bapt? m. 13 Oct 1631 Wm Savage;
(g) Thomas of Whitley Hall bapt ? bur 14 June 1661;
(h) *John Shiercliffe.
*John Shiercliffe, son of Thomas (8) and Mary Pawson, was born some time after his parent's marriage in 1601.
He is possibly the John Shercliffe who was transported to Maryland c 1638, or the one who immigrated to Md. c1646 (MPL 1:18; 2:418, 425)
On 14 Oct 1651, John Lewger demanded land for transporting various persons including Ann, now wife of Richard Nevill, Deborah Towers, and Ann Goldsborough, now wife of John Shircliffe some 12 years hence ( i.e. earlier) (MPL ABH:150).
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:24:22 EDT
From: JJAAA5@aol.com
To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com
Subject: [MDSTMARY] Shircliffe Family
I was updating my information on the Shircliffe Family of St Mary's County and found several references to Mary Pawson, the wife or mother of the Shircliffe Immigrant to SMC, being born in Rockbridge, Virginia in 1582. I understand that it says this on her grave in England. Were there any English in Virginia then? This is several years before Jamestown.
Any thoughts?
Jerry
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: K Woodring katwoodring@yahoo.com>
To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Shircliffe Family
Jerry,
I have seen the internet posting citing Mary Pawson as John Shirtcliffe's MOTHER, but nothing about any tie to Virginia unless someone got a generation or two mixed up.
See my notes below copied from a site with only citations on John's entry and later.
I suspect that the marriage date was from parish records or Harleian Soc. Publications.
From the website address, it appears that the researcher visited the family holding mentioned and pictured. The early tree has no research citations and the link between the two John's is pure conjecture since no document ties them together.
http://www.packrat-pro.com/tree.htm>
Thomas Shiercliffe, Gent. son of Robert (7) and Mary Carr,
On 3 Dec 1601 at Ecclesfield he married Mary, d/o Thomas Pawson, aunt and co-heiress of Nicholas Pawson of Windmill Hill. Thomas died 19 Nov 1636 and was buried in South Chancel of Ecclesfield Cathedral, the burial place of the Shiercliffe family. Mary was buried at Ecclesfield 25 Sept 1647. He purchased Whitley Hall from one Parker in 1616; he also held Hole House in Ecclesfield.
Thomas and Mary Pawson were parents of:
(a) Elizabeth bapt. 31 Aug 1602, bur. 1628;
(b) Nicholas bapt. 20 Jan 1603;
(c) William bapt. 21 Aug 1606;
(d) Anne bapt. 6 Aug 1609 mar. Thomas Wright of Unthank;
(e) Margaret bapt. 8 Sept 1614 d. unm;
(f) Mary bapt? m. 13 Oct 1631 Wm Savage;
(g) Thomas of Whitley Hall bapt ? bur 14 June 1661;
(h) *John Shiercliffe.
*John Shiercliffe, son of Thomas (8) and Mary Pawson, was born some time after his parent's marriage in 1601.
He is possibly the John Shercliffe who was transported to Maryland c 1638, or the one who immigrated to Md. c1646 (MPL 1:18; 2:418, 425)
On 14 Oct 1651, John Lewger demanded land for transporting various persons including Ann, now wife of Richard Nevill, Deborah Towers, and Ann Goldsborough, now wife of John Shircliffe some 12 years hence ( i.e. earlier) (MPL ABH:150).
An extract from Thomas Stobie's GEDCOM created 1 Oct 2007. Thomas can be contacted at stobie@sprynet.com.
====================================================
If you find verifiable errors, please let me know. I welcome all additions, particularly Sharrow/Charron surnames in the Detroit River area of Michigan/Ontario which will link to relatives in the tree (please be sure that your information includes full na
Digitized photos of ancestors, biographies, land records, wills and probate records are also wanted.
Please do not send files with sanitized records -- that is, names like: LIVING SURNAME with no first names, dates or locations. These are not useful genealogical records!
Please refer to: http://www.sharrow.com/mainlines.html for a listing of families I'm researching and interested in.
If you use this data, please include Source Attribution (i.e., don't swipe the info without giving credit - I'm trying to build the primary Sharrow/Charron database - can't do that if folks don't know who to contact)
Send CHARRON/SHARROW information or queries to genealogy@sharrow.com
====================================================
©2001-2007,
Craig M. Sharrow
-- MERGED NOTE ------------
Notes:
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:24:22 EDT
From: JJAAA5@aol.com
To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com
Subject: [MDSTMARY] Shircliffe Family
I was updating my information on the Shircliffe Family of St Mary's County and found several references to Mary Pawson, the wife or mother of the Shircliffe Immigrant to SMC, being born in Rockbridge, Virginia in 1582. I understand that it says this on her grave in England. Were there any English in Virginia then? This is several years before Jamestown.
Any thoughts?
Jerry
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: K Woodring
To: mdstmary@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [MDSTMARY] Shircliffe Family
Jerry,
I have seen the internet posting citing Mary Pawson as John Shirtcliffe's MOTHER, but nothing about any tie to Virginia unless someone got a generation or two mixed up.
See my notes below copied from a site with only citations on John's entry and later.
I suspect that the marriage date was from parish records or Harleian Soc. Publications.
From the website address, it appears that the researcher visited the family holding mentioned and pictured. The early tree has no research citations and the link between the two John's is pure conjecture since no document ties them together.
Thomas Shiercliffe, Gent. son of Robert (7) and Mary Carr,
On 3 Dec 1601 at Ecclesfield he married Mary, d/o Thomas Pawson, aunt and co-heiress of Nicholas Pawson of Windmill Hill. Thomas died 19 Nov 1636 and was buried in South Chancel of Ecclesfield Cathedral, the burial place of the Shiercliffe family. Mary was buried at Ecclesfield 25 Sept 1647. He purchased Whitley Hall from one Parker in 1616; he also held Hole House in Ecclesfield.
Thomas and Mary Pawson were parents of:
(a) Elizabeth bapt. 31 Aug 1602, bur. 1628;
(b) Nicholas bapt. 20 Jan 1603;
(c) William bapt. 21 Aug 1606;
(d) Anne bapt. 6 Aug 1609 mar. Thomas Wright of Unthank;
(e) Margaret bapt. 8 Sept 1614 d. unm;
(f) Mary bapt? m. 13 Oct 1631 Wm Savage;
(g) Thomas of Whitley Hall bapt ? bur 14 June 1661;
(h) *John Shiercliffe.
*John Shiercliffe, son of Thomas (8) and Mary Pawson, was born some time after his parent's marriage in 1601.
He is possibly the John Shercliffe who was transported to Maryland c 1638, or the one who immigrated to Md. c1646 (MPL 1:18; 2:418, 425)
On 14 Oct 1651, John Lewger demanded land for transporting various persons including Ann, now wife of Richard Nevill, Deborah Towers, and Ann Goldsborough, now wife of John Shircliffe some 12 years hence ( i.e. earlier) (MPL ABH:150).
Events
| Birth | Abt 1575 | England |  | ||
| Marriage | Abt 1600 | England - Alice Martin | | ||
| Death | England | |
Families
| Spouse | Alice Martin (1577 - ) |
| Child | Mary Shircliffe (1612 - ) |
| Child | John Shircliffe (1618 - 1663) |
| Child | Margaret Shircliffe (1600 - 1695) |
| Child | Girl Shircliffe ( - 1695) |
Endnotes
1. Alexander, Melissa Thompson, Rootsweb GEDCOM (ma.da@gte.net or mada@atcalexanderthompson.com).
2. Alexander, Melissa Thompson, Rootsweb GEDCOM (ma.da@gte.net or mada@atcalexanderthompson.com).
3. Alexander, Melissa Thompson, Rootsweb GEDCOM (ma.da@gte.net or mada@atcalexanderthompson.com).