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John Sill Sr
(1610 - 1653)
or Syll
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John Sill (abt. 1610 - 1648)
John
Sill
Born about 1610
in Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
[uncertain]Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown][sibling(s) unknown]Husband of Joanna (Unknown) Sill
— married 1632 in Ryton, Durham, EnglandDESCENDANTS Father of Joseph Sill, Judith (Sill) Shepard and Elizabeth (Still) HicksDied 1648
in Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony
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1 Biography
1.1 Family
2 Research Notes
2.1 Needs
3 Sources
Biography
John Sill (otherwise written Scill, Syll, and Scyll) was possibly born in Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England [1] or Lyme Regis, England (which is over 350 miles from Newcastle upon Tyne). Unfortunately, different genealogy books that indicate the same spouse and children indicate these two vastly different birthplaces. However, based on his wedding location of Ryton (if that is correct), he was likely born in Newcastle upon Tyne and not Lyme Regis, since Ryton is located (fewer than 10 miles away from Newcastle upon Tyne. John's birth year is an estimate based on his marriage date and estimation provided by Old Silltown.[2]
He married Joanna in 1632 in Ryton, Durham, England.[3][2].[4]
John Sill, his wife Joanna, and their infant children arrived in Cambridge, Massachusetts around 1637.[1][2][5] "After they arrived certain difficulties arose, and John complained that 'somethings coming in my way that troubled my mind for my place of settling.' But, by 2 May 1638, he attained freemanship, and the following year purchased a house, with a garden and a 'backside,' on the southeast corner of Eliot and Winthrop streets." [6][7][8] [9][10][11]
He was received as member in full communion of the Congregational Society of Cambridge, Rev. Thomas Shepherd pastor.[2]
He was living in 1647, when he was among the creditors of a certain estate, and in 1648-9 he was named among the proprietors of land in Cambridge, but he died before 1652, because his wife is spoken of as a widow. [2] "The division at Shawshine finds Widow Sill being granted forty acres, so John Sill was deceased by 1652. The size of the grant gives no clear indication of his former status because widows received a significantly decreased allotment."[6][8]
Family
Husband: John Sill
Wife: JoannaMarried: Before 1635Children:
Son: Joseph (born 1636 in England, married Jemima Belcher December 1660)[6]
Daughter: Elizabeth Sill (born in 1637 in England, married Zachariah Hicks on 8 October 1652, died in 12 September 1730)[2][6][9]
Daughter: Judith (born in Cambridge, Mass., 1st married Mr. Philbrook; 2nd married Abraham Shepherd, of Malden, Mass on 2 January 1673.)[2][5] [12]Research Notes
The Old Silltown book references Mrs. Joanna Sill as his wife. I have not found any references (yet) about her maiden name.[2]
There is a John Sill who was baptized on 2 April 1615 in Culmstock, Devon, England with parents William and Anne, who might be the same John Sill in this profile; Culmstock is located about 26 miles from Lyme Regis, which was a potential birthplace of John. [13]
There is a John Sill who was born and baptized in Heversham, Westmorland, England in 1607, but that is over 100 miles from Newcastle upon Tyne, so this is not likely the same John Sill.[14]
See Joanna Banning Fillbrook for information Joanna Fillbrook/Fillbrock, who is not John Sill's wife; she would have been too young to have a child (9 years old). This profile needs additional work.[15]
Marriage records from England show a John Sill married Joan in 1632 in Ryton, Durham, England. This is possibly the same Joanna, as this is before 1635, as suggested by the Cambridge records.[16]
Interesting quick research about marriage in the 1600s: The age of consent for women was 12 years old and 15 for boys, although this was not the mean or average. Between 1566 and 1619, the mean marriage age was 27 years old. Between 1647 and 1719, the average was 29.6 years old. In 1619, the average age for a man was about 23.[17] If the marriage to Johanna was indeed in 1632, John might have been born around 1609.
Needs
Needs additional research to find his parents, any siblings, and more information about his supposed daughter, Judith.
Needs additional research about his birthplace. Two different sources indicate locations that are hundreds of miles apart. There are multiple John Sills who lived in that time period. Did not find birth or baptism records for the time period near Newcastle upon Tyne.Sources
↑ 1.0 1.1 Anderson, Robert Charles. The Great Migration Directory. (Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, Jun 2015), 305.
↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 Burt, Sarah Sill Welles. Old Silltown, Something of Its History and People: Being Principally a Brief Account of the Early Generations of the Sill Family. 1912. November 29, 2007. Accessed March 31, 2019. https://books.google.com/books?id=lI1RAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA22. Pages 22-24
↑ New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015. https://www.americanancestors.org/DB1568/i/21175/1374/426941329
↑ England: Marriages, 1538-1973. Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014. (Original index: England Marriages, 1538-1973. FamilySearch, 2014.) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB544/rd/319462067
↑ 5.0 5.1 Sill, Frederick Schroeder. Sketch of the ancestors and descendants of Thomas Sill and Clarissa Treadway of Middletown, Ct. Cohoes, NY: E.H. Foster & Co. Printers, 1897. Page 3. [1]
↑ 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 Selement, George and Bruce C. Woolley. Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 58: Thomas Shepard’s Confessions. BOSTON : THE SOCIETY : 1981. https://www.colonialsociety.org/node/1128#pt01
↑ Shurtleff, Nathaniel Bradstreet. Records of the governor and company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England. p374. https://archive.org/details/recordsofgoverno01mass/page/374
↑ 8.0 8.1 Paige, Lucius R. History of Cambridge, Massachusetts. 1630-1877. With a genealogical register. New York: Hurd and Houghton, 1877. page 655. https://archive.org/details/historyofcambrid00paigiala/page/655/
↑ 9.0 9.1 Savage, James. A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England: Showing Three Generations of Those Who Came Before May, 1692, on the Basis of Farmer's Register. (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co, 1860-1862). pages 96-97. https://archive.org/details/genealogicaldic04savarich/page/96
↑ Massachusetts: Miscellaneous Census Substitutes, 1630-1788, 1840, 1890 (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2013. From records supplied by Ancestry.com) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB509/rd/13684/1688/242319927
↑ Cambridge . Proprietors. The register book of the lands and houses in the "New Towne" and the town of Cambridge, with the records of the proprietors of the common lands, being the records generally called "the proprietors' records" -1829. [Cambridge, J.Wilson & co, 1896] Web.. https://lccn.loc.gov/01011271, https://archive.org/details/cu31924025963269/page/n91, https://archive.org/details/cu31924025963269/page/n71, https://archive.org/details/cu31924025963269/page/n141, https://archive.org/details/cu31924025963269/page/n143
↑ Shepard, Winfred C. Ancestors and Descendants of Albro Dexter Shepard and His Wife Alice Zeviah Sill. University of Wisconsin - Madison: 1949. Page 30.FamilySearch Digital Book.
↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWX6-762 : 11 February 2018, John Sill, 02 Apr 1615); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 917,187.
↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J92N-JM8 : 10 February 2018, John Sill, ); citing item 36, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,471,810.
↑ England: Births and Christenings, 1538-1975. Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014. (Original index: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975. FamilySearch, 2014.) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB543/rd/376789090
↑ England: Marriages, 1538-1973. Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014. (Original index: England Marriages, 1538-1973. FamilySearch, 2014.) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB544/rd/319462067
↑ "The age of marriage." Internet Shakespeare Editions. http://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/SLT/society/family/marriage.html
See also:
Hughes, Thomas P. American Ancestry: Giving the Name and Descent, in the Male Line of Americans Whose Ancestors Settled in the United States Previous to the Declaration of Independence, A.D. 1776 Vol I. Albany, New York: Joel Munsell's Sons, 1887. Viewed on Google Books. https://books.google.com/books?id=L25LAQAAIAAJ
Cutter, William Richard. Families of Western New York. Genealogical Publishing Com, 2009. Page 208. Google Books. https://books.google.com/books?id=te2ZTSdTOU0C&pg=PA208
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John Sill (abt. 1610 - 1648)
John
Sill
Born about 1610
in Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
[uncertain]Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown][sibling(s) unknown]Husband of Joanna (Unknown) Sill
— married 1632 in Ryton, Durham, EnglandDESCENDANTS Father of Joseph Sill, Judith (Sill) Shepard and Elizabeth (Still) HicksDied 1648
in Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colony
Profile manager: Puritan Great Migration Project WikiTree [send private message]Profile last modified 12 Mar 2021 | Created 19 Apr 2011This page has been accessed 1,152 times.
John Sill migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1620-1640).
Join: Puritan Great Migration Project
Discuss: PGM
Contents
[hide]
1 Biography
1.1 Family
2 Research Notes
2.1 Needs
3 Sources
Biography
John Sill (otherwise written Scill, Syll, and Scyll) was possibly born in Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England [1] or Lyme Regis, England (which is over 350 miles from Newcastle upon Tyne). Unfortunately, different genealogy books that indicate the same spouse and children indicate these two vastly different birthplaces. However, based on his wedding location of Ryton (if that is correct), he was likely born in Newcastle upon Tyne and not Lyme Regis, since Ryton is located (fewer than 10 miles away from Newcastle upon Tyne. John's birth year is an estimate based on his marriage date and estimation provided by Old Silltown.[2]
He married Joanna in 1632 in Ryton, Durham, England.[3][2].[4]
John Sill, his wife Joanna, and their infant children arrived in Cambridge, Massachusetts around 1637.[1][2][5] "After they arrived certain difficulties arose, and John complained that 'somethings coming in my way that troubled my mind for my place of settling.' But, by 2 May 1638, he attained freemanship, and the following year purchased a house, with a garden and a 'backside,' on the southeast corner of Eliot and Winthrop streets." [6][7][8] [9][10][11]
He was received as member in full communion of the Congregational Society of Cambridge, Rev. Thomas Shepherd pastor.[2]
He was living in 1647, when he was among the creditors of a certain estate, and in 1648-9 he was named among the proprietors of land in Cambridge, but he died before 1652, because his wife is spoken of as a widow. [2] "The division at Shawshine finds Widow Sill being granted forty acres, so John Sill was deceased by 1652. The size of the grant gives no clear indication of his former status because widows received a significantly decreased allotment."[6][8]
Family
Husband: John Sill
Wife: JoannaMarried: Before 1635Children:
Son: Joseph (born 1636 in England, married Jemima Belcher December 1660)[6]
Daughter: Elizabeth Sill (born in 1637 in England, married Zachariah Hicks on 8 October 1652, died in 12 September 1730)[2][6][9]
Daughter: Judith (born in Cambridge, Mass., 1st married Mr. Philbrook; 2nd married Abraham Shepherd, of Malden, Mass on 2 January 1673.)[2][5] [12]Research Notes
The Old Silltown book references Mrs. Joanna Sill as his wife. I have not found any references (yet) about her maiden name.[2]
There is a John Sill who was baptized on 2 April 1615 in Culmstock, Devon, England with parents William and Anne, who might be the same John Sill in this profile; Culmstock is located about 26 miles from Lyme Regis, which was a potential birthplace of John. [13]
There is a John Sill who was born and baptized in Heversham, Westmorland, England in 1607, but that is over 100 miles from Newcastle upon Tyne, so this is not likely the same John Sill.[14]
See Joanna Banning Fillbrook for information Joanna Fillbrook/Fillbrock, who is not John Sill's wife; she would have been too young to have a child (9 years old). This profile needs additional work.[15]
Marriage records from England show a John Sill married Joan in 1632 in Ryton, Durham, England. This is possibly the same Joanna, as this is before 1635, as suggested by the Cambridge records.[16]
Interesting quick research about marriage in the 1600s: The age of consent for women was 12 years old and 15 for boys, although this was not the mean or average. Between 1566 and 1619, the mean marriage age was 27 years old. Between 1647 and 1719, the average was 29.6 years old. In 1619, the average age for a man was about 23.[17] If the marriage to Johanna was indeed in 1632, John might have been born around 1609.
Needs
Needs additional research to find his parents, any siblings, and more information about his supposed daughter, Judith.
Needs additional research about his birthplace. Two different sources indicate locations that are hundreds of miles apart. There are multiple John Sills who lived in that time period. Did not find birth or baptism records for the time period near Newcastle upon Tyne.Sources
↑ 1.0 1.1 Anderson, Robert Charles. The Great Migration Directory. (Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, Jun 2015), 305.
↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 Burt, Sarah Sill Welles. Old Silltown, Something of Its History and People: Being Principally a Brief Account of the Early Generations of the Sill Family. 1912. November 29, 2007. Accessed March 31, 2019. https://books.google.com/books?id=lI1RAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA22. Pages 22-24
↑ New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015. https://www.americanancestors.org/DB1568/i/21175/1374/426941329
↑ England: Marriages, 1538-1973. Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014. (Original index: England Marriages, 1538-1973. FamilySearch, 2014.) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB544/rd/319462067
↑ 5.0 5.1 Sill, Frederick Schroeder. Sketch of the ancestors and descendants of Thomas Sill and Clarissa Treadway of Middletown, Ct. Cohoes, NY: E.H. Foster & Co. Printers, 1897. Page 3. [1]
↑ 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 Selement, George and Bruce C. Woolley. Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 58: Thomas Shepard’s Confessions. BOSTON : THE SOCIETY : 1981. https://www.colonialsociety.org/node/1128#pt01
↑ Shurtleff, Nathaniel Bradstreet. Records of the governor and company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England. p374. https://archive.org/details/recordsofgoverno01mass/page/374
↑ 8.0 8.1 Paige, Lucius R. History of Cambridge, Massachusetts. 1630-1877. With a genealogical register. New York: Hurd and Houghton, 1877. page 655. https://archive.org/details/historyofcambrid00paigiala/page/655/
↑ 9.0 9.1 Savage, James. A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England: Showing Three Generations of Those Who Came Before May, 1692, on the Basis of Farmer's Register. (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co, 1860-1862). pages 96-97. https://archive.org/details/genealogicaldic04savarich/page/96
↑ Massachusetts: Miscellaneous Census Substitutes, 1630-1788, 1840, 1890 (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2013. From records supplied by Ancestry.com) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB509/rd/13684/1688/242319927
↑ Cambridge . Proprietors. The register book of the lands and houses in the "New Towne" and the town of Cambridge, with the records of the proprietors of the common lands, being the records generally called "the proprietors' records" -1829. [Cambridge, J.Wilson & co, 1896] Web.. https://lccn.loc.gov/01011271, https://archive.org/details/cu31924025963269/page/n91, https://archive.org/details/cu31924025963269/page/n71, https://archive.org/details/cu31924025963269/page/n141, https://archive.org/details/cu31924025963269/page/n143
↑ Shepard, Winfred C. Ancestors and Descendants of Albro Dexter Shepard and His Wife Alice Zeviah Sill. University of Wisconsin - Madison: 1949. Page 30.FamilySearch Digital Book.
↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWX6-762 : 11 February 2018, John Sill, 02 Apr 1615); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 917,187.
↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J92N-JM8 : 10 February 2018, John Sill, ); citing item 36, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,471,810.
↑ England: Births and Christenings, 1538-1975. Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014. (Original index: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975. FamilySearch, 2014.) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB543/rd/376789090
↑ England: Marriages, 1538-1973. Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014. (Original index: England Marriages, 1538-1973. FamilySearch, 2014.) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB544/rd/319462067
↑ "The age of marriage." Internet Shakespeare Editions. http://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/SLT/society/family/marriage.html
See also:
Hughes, Thomas P. American Ancestry: Giving the Name and Descent, in the Male Line of Americans Whose Ancestors Settled in the United States Previous to the Declaration of Independence, A.D. 1776 Vol I. Albany, New York: Joel Munsell's Sons, 1887. Viewed on Google Books. https://books.google.com/books?id=L25LAQAAIAAJ
Cutter, William Richard. Families of Western New York. Genealogical Publishing Com, 2009. Page 208. Google Books. https://books.google.com/books?id=te2ZTSdTOU0C&pg=PA208
Events
| Birth | 1610 | Newcastle -on-Tyne, Nothumberland, England | |||
| Death | 1653 | Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay, British America | |||
| Marriage | Joanna Banning Fillbrook |
Families
| Spouse | Joanna Banning Fillbrook (1610 - 1671) |
| Child | Elizabeth Sill (1635 - ) |