Individual Details
Elizabeth Ferrers
(Ca 1419 - Ca 23 Jan 1483)
Palmer, Charles Ferrers Raymund (1819-1900), The History of the Town and Castle of Tamworth, p. 364 (in footnote)
William Ferrers, 6th baron of Groby, 16 yrs. old at his father's death, summoned from Nov. 30th, 1386, to Dec. 3rd, 1441. He d. in 1444. By Philippa, dau. of Roger lord Clifford, he had,
i. Henry, who m. Isabell, 2nd dau. And coh. of Tho. Mobray, duke of Norfolk. He d. v. p. leaving an only dau., Elizabeth, of whom we shall immediately speak.
ii. Thomas, of whom presently.
ii. John; from whom descended the Ferrerses of Mercute, now extinct.
Elizabeth Ferrers, sole heiress of William, her grand-father, was m. to Edward Grey, son of Reginald, 3rd lord Grey of Ruthyn; who in her right, became baron Ferrers of Groby; and by that title he was summoned to parliament from Dec. 14th, 1446, to Jan. 2nd, 1448-9; and, as baron of Groby, from Sept. 23rd, 1449, to May 26th, 1455. The great-grand son of this Elizabeth, Henry Grey, marquis of Dorset and duke of Suffolk, was beheaded for treason in1554 ; and the barony of Groby then became extinct.
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Sir Henry Ferrers1,2
M, #139975
Last Edited=11 Mar 2015
Sir Henry Ferrers is the son of William Ferrers, 5th Lord Ferrers (of Groby).1 He married Lady Isabel de Mowbray, daughter of Thomas de Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk and Lady Elizabeth Fitzalan, before 13 July 1416.2
Child of Sir Henry Ferrers and Lady Isabel de Mowbray
Elizabeth Ferrers, Baroness Ferrers (of Groby)+1 b. c 1419, d. c 23 Jan 1483
Citations
[S21] L. G. Pine, The New Extinct Peerage 1884-1971: Containing Extinct, Abeyant, Dormant and Suspended Peerages With Genealogies and Arms (London, U.K.: Heraldry Today, 1972), page 137. Hereinafter cited as The New Extinct Peerage.
[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume V, page 358. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
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Geni shows the following children for Elizabeth Ferrers and Edward Grey
Sir John Grey, 7th Lord Ferrers of Groby;
Margaret Greystoke;
Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle;
Reynold (Reginald) Grey and
Anne Hungerford
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See Time Team- House of the White Queen, Season 18, Episode 11 (2011).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9_gYlBS3oM
1:25 He calls Groby an 18th century farm house, 15th century brick manor
12:35 Historian says that when Hugh de Grandmesnil was "excavated" he was 5 foot 8 inches.
[Hugh had been buried in France according to Wikipedia at: "Abbey of St. Evroult, and buried by the Abbot Roger on the south side of the Chapter House, near the tomb of Abbot Mainer."]
15:40 Looking for the "Great Hall" within the bailey
21:10 Points at existing 15th century brick tower
22:20 "High status" "posh roof" (slae);
22:55 Demolition of building ws 1480-1500.
23:50 Radar shows a series of buildings
24:50 Found medieval floor tiles consistent with a Great Hall.
25:45 Review of dowrey documents: Text mentions Margaret, wife of William De Ferrers, Knight, made 4 June 45 Edward III (i.e. 1327+45 = 1372). Must be William Ferrers (1332-1372; 3rd Baron of Groby) and wife Margaret d'Ufford (1333-1368?)
26:10 Ferrers pronounced Ferres
27:10 Says the dowery document is dated 1371
28:00 2 story high status building
28:00 Pottery find first half of 15th century; massive building complex
30:45 Big house, grander and more massive than anything they had imagined
31:30 Found the Great Hall. Auriel, bay window between wings.
32:30 Buttresses found indicating high status
32:20 "Palatial" residence
34:20 Mother-in-law, Elizabeth Ferrers Grey won't pay dower to Elizabeth Grey Woodville after her husband dies. [Wrong: John Grey died in 1461 at the 2nd Battle of St. Albans. He was on the wrong side. I.e fought with Lancastrian Henry VI who lost. Edward IV won and forfeited John's rights which included Elizabeth Woodville's dower. She then went to live with her parents. Confronted Edward IV who thought she was beautiful and secretly married her.]
39:20 Really high end building
41:30 Pottery from old castle dates to 13th century -- suggesting that was the time of demolition before building the big house
42:40 Chapel was probably pretty spectacular
43:50 described as "realy posh, aristocratic manor house" "like a palace" "Greys [Ferrers] are doing really well"
45:00 Most buildings appear to have come into use early 1300's. Attributes building of "manor" to William de Ferrers (1272-1325), 1st Lord Ferrers.
46:00 Postulates that Thomas Grey built the new tower late 1400's and demolished old manor
46:30 built a quadrangle; stunning medieval home including Great Hall
William Ferrers, 6th baron of Groby, 16 yrs. old at his father's death, summoned from Nov. 30th, 1386, to Dec. 3rd, 1441. He d. in 1444. By Philippa, dau. of Roger lord Clifford, he had,
i. Henry, who m. Isabell, 2nd dau. And coh. of Tho. Mobray, duke of Norfolk. He d. v. p. leaving an only dau., Elizabeth, of whom we shall immediately speak.
ii. Thomas, of whom presently.
ii. John; from whom descended the Ferrerses of Mercute, now extinct.
Elizabeth Ferrers, sole heiress of William, her grand-father, was m. to Edward Grey, son of Reginald, 3rd lord Grey of Ruthyn; who in her right, became baron Ferrers of Groby; and by that title he was summoned to parliament from Dec. 14th, 1446, to Jan. 2nd, 1448-9; and, as baron of Groby, from Sept. 23rd, 1449, to May 26th, 1455. The great-grand son of this Elizabeth, Henry Grey, marquis of Dorset and duke of Suffolk, was beheaded for treason in1554 ; and the barony of Groby then became extinct.
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thePeerage.com
Sir Henry Ferrers1,2
M, #139975
Last Edited=11 Mar 2015
Sir Henry Ferrers is the son of William Ferrers, 5th Lord Ferrers (of Groby).1 He married Lady Isabel de Mowbray, daughter of Thomas de Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk and Lady Elizabeth Fitzalan, before 13 July 1416.2
Child of Sir Henry Ferrers and Lady Isabel de Mowbray
Elizabeth Ferrers, Baroness Ferrers (of Groby)+1 b. c 1419, d. c 23 Jan 1483
Citations
[S21] L. G. Pine, The New Extinct Peerage 1884-1971: Containing Extinct, Abeyant, Dormant and Suspended Peerages With Genealogies and Arms (London, U.K.: Heraldry Today, 1972), page 137. Hereinafter cited as The New Extinct Peerage.
[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume V, page 358. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
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Geni shows the following children for Elizabeth Ferrers and Edward Grey
Sir John Grey, 7th Lord Ferrers of Groby;
Margaret Greystoke;
Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle;
Reynold (Reginald) Grey and
Anne Hungerford
*******************
See Time Team- House of the White Queen, Season 18, Episode 11 (2011).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9_gYlBS3oM
1:25 He calls Groby an 18th century farm house, 15th century brick manor
12:35 Historian says that when Hugh de Grandmesnil was "excavated" he was 5 foot 8 inches.
[Hugh had been buried in France according to Wikipedia at: "Abbey of St. Evroult, and buried by the Abbot Roger on the south side of the Chapter House, near the tomb of Abbot Mainer."]
15:40 Looking for the "Great Hall" within the bailey
21:10 Points at existing 15th century brick tower
22:20 "High status" "posh roof" (slae);
22:55 Demolition of building ws 1480-1500.
23:50 Radar shows a series of buildings
24:50 Found medieval floor tiles consistent with a Great Hall.
25:45 Review of dowrey documents: Text mentions Margaret, wife of William De Ferrers, Knight, made 4 June 45 Edward III (i.e. 1327+45 = 1372). Must be William Ferrers (1332-1372; 3rd Baron of Groby) and wife Margaret d'Ufford (1333-1368?)
26:10 Ferrers pronounced Ferres
27:10 Says the dowery document is dated 1371
28:00 2 story high status building
28:00 Pottery find first half of 15th century; massive building complex
30:45 Big house, grander and more massive than anything they had imagined
31:30 Found the Great Hall. Auriel, bay window between wings.
32:30 Buttresses found indicating high status
32:20 "Palatial" residence
34:20 Mother-in-law, Elizabeth Ferrers Grey won't pay dower to Elizabeth Grey Woodville after her husband dies. [Wrong: John Grey died in 1461 at the 2nd Battle of St. Albans. He was on the wrong side. I.e fought with Lancastrian Henry VI who lost. Edward IV won and forfeited John's rights which included Elizabeth Woodville's dower. She then went to live with her parents. Confronted Edward IV who thought she was beautiful and secretly married her.]
39:20 Really high end building
41:30 Pottery from old castle dates to 13th century -- suggesting that was the time of demolition before building the big house
42:40 Chapel was probably pretty spectacular
43:50 described as "realy posh, aristocratic manor house" "like a palace" "Greys [Ferrers] are doing really well"
45:00 Most buildings appear to have come into use early 1300's. Attributes building of "manor" to William de Ferrers (1272-1325), 1st Lord Ferrers.
46:00 Postulates that Thomas Grey built the new tower late 1400's and demolished old manor
46:30 built a quadrangle; stunning medieval home including Great Hall
Events
| Birth | Ca 1419 | ||||
| Title (Nobility) | 1445 | 6th Baroness Ferrers, of Groby | |||
| Marriage | Bef 2 May 1462 | John Bourchier | |||
| Death | Ca 23 Jan 1483 |
Families
| Spouse | Sir Edward Grey (1415 - 1457) |
| Child | John Grey (1432 - 1461) |
| Child | Margaret Grey (1438 - ) |
| Child | Edward Grey (1442 - 1492) |
| Child | Reynold Grey (1452 - 1460) |
| Child | Ann Grey (1456 - 1507) |
| Spouse | John Bourchier (1438 - 1495) |
| Father | Henry Ferrers (1390 - 1419) |
| Mother | Isabel de Mowbray (1400 - 1452) |
| Sibling | Maurice Ferrers (1420 - ) |