Individual Details
James TINDER Sr.
(1731 - 1813)
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The first known ancestor is James Tinder Sr. He was born possibly between 1735-40 in Scotland. The only proof of James coming from Scotland is found in a biographical sketch of his grandson Jeremiah Tinder in "History of Hendricks County, In." 1886, p 536 which states his father was born in Scotland. Jeremiah's father was Elijah Tinder, son of James, and all records show Elijah was born in Virginia. It is therefore possible that his grandfather James was born in Scotland. As to the date and port of arrival it is uncertain. It was before 1758 because James served in the French and Indian Wars in 1758. He served in the second Virginia Regiment under Col. Byrd. This Regiment was under Col. George Washington, and was used in the Forbes expedition against Fort Duquesne. James enlisted in Louisa County Virginia. For his service he received a warrant for 50 acres of land. He assigned this land to Luis Perry on 14th February 1780. He married Sarah (Chadwick) ? about 1760, no marriage record has been found. The next location for James and Sarah is Spotsylvania Co. Virginia as their oldest son James was born there in 1763. By 1768 James and Sarah purchase land in Orange County Virginia. The deed found in book 15, p 79 reads as follows "16 Nov. 1768 between Reuben Young and wife Ann of the County of Spotsylvania of the one part and James Tinder, planter, of the County of Orange, of the other part, Reuben and Ann for the sum of 12 pounds current money to the said Reuben Young in hand paid James Tinder one tract of land, one hundred and eighty acres in the county of Orange on Little Black Walnut and branch of the Mine Run. Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of us on 16 of Nov. 1768. James Dupline, William Carr, Joseph Whallban." This is in the area of Burr Hill Virginia on Rt. 611 out of Locust Grove Virginia. James and Sarah remained in Orange County Virginia until 1791, and all their children, except Margaret and James Jr. were born there. James and Sarah sell their farm to John Bledsoe in 1791. The deed is found in Book 20, page 97 and reads as follows: "James Tinder and John Bledsoe. This indenture made on the 24th day of December in the year of our lord, one thousand seven hundred and ninety one. James Tinder and Sarah his wife of the county of Orange of the one part and John Bledsoe of the County of Orange of the other part witnepeth that this James Tinder and Sarah his wife for in the consideration of the sum of fifty pounds to the said James Tinder in hand paid and before the ensealing of these present the receipt where of doth acknowledge hath given, granted, bargained, sold, and confirmed enfeaffed and do by these present do give, grant and bargain sell enfeoff and confirm unto the John Bledsoe or his heirs and offsprings forever one tract or parcel of land containing two hundred and eighty acres more or less. Situated, lying and being in the County of Orange on Little Black Walnut at branch of Mine Run and bounded as follows, to wit. Beginning at two white oaks and poplars by a small branch north of fourteen degrees east one hundred and thirty poles to a post Oak and several pines on a ridge corner to Matt's land North seventy degrees East eighty poles to a pine corner to Henry Head's land, South sixty four degrees East one hundred and twenty poles to two small red oak saplings on a hill side in Watt's line. South twelve degrees west two hundred and eighty poles to a white oak on descending ground corner to George Whorton north forty seven degrees west two hundred and six poles to a white oak and red oak saplings near the office road in Price's line, along his line fifty poles to the beginning which is said land or parcel of land with all houses, buildings, gardens, orchards, meadows, pastures, ways, woods, water, water courses, profits, commodities, and appurtenances what so ever to the same belonging or in any wise appertaining and all the estate and claims, rights, title, interest, property, claim, and demand what so ever these James Tinder his heirs and offsprings to the only use and behoof of the said John Bledsoe, his heirs Vc. of the said granted premises with the appurtenances and every part Vc. parcel thereof. To have and to hold the said tract of land and premises with their and every appurtenances to the said John Bledsoe his heirs and offsprings forever and to no other use and intent Vc. or purpose what ever so. In witneff where of the said James Tinder and wife Sarah have here unto set their seals the day and year first mentioned. Caleb Abel, Moses Bledsoe, Moses Dorsey, James Tinder, Sarah Tinder." James and his family headed for Kentucky in 1791, and settled in Woodford County. He purchased 18 acres of land from Joseph Collins and wife Susannah in the Clear Creek area of Woodford County, Kentucky, and there is little doubt but the Tinder family attended Clear Creek Baptist Church. In 1806 James and Sarah deed the 18 acres to son Elijah (Book D, p 58). No doubt Elijah cared for his parents the remainder of their lives. The 1810 Federal Census shows a male and female over 45 living in the home of Elijah, and these two were possibly James Tinder Sr. and wife Sarah. Elijah sells his land in 1816 and moves to Shelby County, Kentucky. We have placed James Tinder Sr. death at ca. 1810-1816 in Woodford County, Kentucky., buried possibly in the vicinity of Clear Creek. Henry Elliot Tinder, now deceased, of Barboursville, Virginia stated according to tradition that Tinder brothers came to America together. A few records found in Rockingham County, Virginia substantiate this theory, yet the relationship is unproven. I found the name Fredrick Tinder serving in the American Revolution. He could be the bother or an older son of James not accounted for.
Orange County, Virginia Deeds.
April 23, 1787 James Tinder from Reuben Young and wife Ann. Book 15, page 79
June 25, 1792 James Tinder and wife Sarah to J. Bledsoe. Book 20, page 97
Woodford County, Kentucky Deeds
Sept. 7, 1794 James Tinder from Joseph Collins and wife Susanna. Book B, p 347
June 14, 1806 James Tinder and Wife Sarah to son Elijah. Book D, page 58
Above deed granted Elijah 18 acres for "consideration, love and affection for Elijah."
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Events
Families
Spouse | Sarah CHADWICK (1735 - 1806) |
Child | Margaret TINDER (1761 - 1840) |
Child | James TINDER Jr. (1763 - 1836) |
Child | Jesse TINDER (1765 - 1835) |
Child | Anthony TINDER (1770 - 1848) |
Child | Sarah TINDER (1773 - 1854) |
Child | Jeremiah TINDER (1775 - 1797) |
Child | Rev. James TINDER Jr. (1776 - 1854) |
Child | Elijah TINDER (1777 - 1864) |
Child | Jenny TINDER (1780 - ) |
Notes
Military
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Where James landed in America, and the exact date of his arrival is unknown, but we do know that he was in Virginia before 1758, because he served in the French and Indian Wars that year. He enlisted in Louisa County Virginia in the Second Regiment under Colonel Byrd. Lieutenant Colonel George Washington commanded this Regiment, along with the First. From reading about this period of history we can get a feel for what James’s movements might have been during his service in the Virginia Regiment.
Washington’s forces were assigned to the Forbes expedition against Fort Duquesne. Colonel Henry Bouquet was commanding the First Division, and was in charge of building a road through Pennsylvania. This is where the main thrust against Fort Duquesne would be mounted. Washington was against the building of this road, for he felt it would delay the campaign into the winter, and the attack would have to wait until next spring. Washington, commanding the Second Division, wanted to use the Braddock Road through Virginia, a road he had helped cut on an earlier attempt to take Fort Duquesne.
The British won out and Washington and his Virginia forces were to work on the Braddock Road in an attempted to try and fool the French into thinking that the attack against the fort was coming from that direction. In July of 1758 Washington’s Virginia Regiment reached Fort Cumberland on the Potomac River, so we can only assume this was where James was to be found. During August they continued to clear Braddock’s Road, but sometime in late August the army moved north to Loyalhannon, at Fort Ligonier, in Pennsylvania, to join Colonel Bouquet and his forces. As it turned out Washington was right about the delay in building a new road, and the army was forced to go into winter quarters.
This was to be James’s new home for the winter of 1758, but as luck has it, on November 12th, 1758 Washington and Bouquet learned that Fort Duquesne’s garrison was very weak. Washington took 2500 men and advanced on the fort, and on November 24th, camped on Turtle Creek. During the night the French blew up the fort and abandoned it. Washington and his men took the fort the next day, and possibly James was there on the forks of the Monongahela and Allegheny Rivers on November 25th, 1758.
James returned to Louisa County Virginia in 1758, and was probably discharged from the army later in the same year.
James Tinder Sr. at court held in Louisa County on the 14th of February, 1780 made application for land bounties in the Virginia land office for his service in the French and Indian Wars. From the land bounty certificate, French and Indian War page 58, #448 warrant for 50 acres of land, which “I assign the within rite to Luis Perry this 14th February, 1780”.
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Marriage
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Probably married in Louisa County, Virginia as their first child Margaret was born there.
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Endnotes
1. History of Hendricks Co., In. 1886 p 536 written by his grandson Jeremiah Tinder. Jeremiah said his father was born in Scotland, but we know his father "Elijah" was born in Virginia. We might therefore presume he meant James Sr..
2. Citation: "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTNZ-S84 : 10 February 2018), James Tinder, ; citing Arngask, Fifeshire, Scotland, reference 2:15BMXSS, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,040,147..
3. James Tinder French and Indian Bounty Warrants. Two Manuscript Vol. copied from loose applications for land bounties in the Virginia Land Office. Obtained from the Virginia Historical Society Library. At a court held for Louisa County the 14th of February 1780 James Tinder proved in court that he served his enlistment out as a solder in Col. Byrd's Regiment in the year 1758 and made oath that he has never before claimed his right to his allowance of land nor ever received a certificate from this or any other court nor ever received any land in consideration there of. John Nelson, Clk. Land Bounty Certificates, French and Indian War. page 58, #448. Warrant for 50 acres of land. "I assign the within rite to Luis Perry this 14th February 1780." Test James Colman James Tinder.
4. Land Bounty Certificates, French and Indian War, Page 58, #448 Virginia Historical Society Library..