Individual Details
Robert de Ferrariis
(1090 - Bef 1163)
From Palmer, Charles Ferrers Raymund (1819-1900), The History of the Town and Castle of Tamworth, in the Counties of Stafford and Warwick, 1845, p. 363 et seq
Robert de Ferrers, 2nd earlof Derby, styled himself " Robertus, comes junior de Ferrariis," and "Robertus, comes junior de Notingham." He founded Merevale-abbey, co. of Warwick (see. p. 56), and lies bur.t here. He was succeeded by his son and heir,
William de Ferrers, 3rd earlof Derby, living 1167.
[Palmer lists no other children.]
Palmer's order of descent is:
Henry de Ferrariis (1036-1088) & Bertha d”Aigle
Robert de Ferrières (1062-1139) & Hawise de Vitre, 1st Earl of Derby
Robert de Ferrariis (1100-1160) & No wife, 2nd Earl of Derby
William de Ferrers (1140-1190) & daughter of William Peverel, 3rd Earl of Derby
Robert de Ferrers () & Sibilla de Braose, 4th Earl of Derby
William de Ferrers (1140-1190) & Sibella ? Was his wife, ? Earl of Derby?
William de Ferrers (1172-1247) & Agnes Cyvelioc, 6th Earl of Derby
William de Ferrers (1193-1254) & Sibell Marshall (& Margaret de Quincey), 7th Earl of Derby (also buried at Merevale Abbey)
William de Ferrers (1240-1288) & Helen Lovaine (d.1287)
William de Ferrers (1272-1325) & Elizabeth Seagrave, 1st Baron of Groby?
Henry de Ferrers (1303-1343 & Isabell de Verdon,
Robert de Ferrers (1239-1279 Palmer says death in 1274), by M. de Quincey) & Alianor Basset, 8th & last Earl of Derby
Robert's (1239-1274) son John became barons of Chartley,
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From thePeeragecom
Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby1
M, #158537, b. circa 1090, d. 1162
Last Edited=13 Oct 2014
Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby was born circa 1090 at Derbyshire, England.1 He was the son of Robert de Ferrers, 1st Earl of Derby and Hawise de Vitre.1 He married Margaret Peverel, daughter of William Peverel and Alice de Lancaster, in 1135 at Nottinghamshire, England.1 He died in 1162 at Merevale, Warwickshire, England.1,2
He succeeded to the title of 2nd Earl of Derby in 1139.
Child of Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby and Margaret Peverel
William de Ferrers, 3rd Earl of Derby+1 b. 1140, d. a 31 Dec 1189
Citations
[S125] Richard Glanville-Brown, online, Richard Glanville-Brown (RR 2, Milton, Ontario, Canada), downloaded 17 August 2005.
[S130] Wikipedia, online http;//www.wikipedia.org. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
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Cokayne's Complete Peerage:
Complete Peerage of England, Vol 3, Cokayne (1890), p. 64 et seq. indictes the following lineage:
Henry de Ferrariis (1036-1038) & Bertha d”Aigle
1138 Robert de Ferrières (1062-1139) & Hawise de Vitre, 1st Earl of Derby
1139 Robert de Ferrariis (1100-1160) & No wife, 2nd Earl of Derby
1162 William de Ferrers (1140-1190) & Sybilla de Braose, 3rd Earl of Derby
1190 William de Ferrers (1172-1247) & Agnes Kevelioc, 4th Earl of Derby
1247 William de Ferrers (1193-1254) & Sybilla Marshall (& Margaret de Quincey), 5th Earl of Derby
From Complete Peerage of England Col 3 Cokayne 1890, p. 65:
1254-1266 Robert's (1239-1274) son John became barons of Chartley, married 1st Marie Le Brun & 2nd Eleanor Basset (disinherited of Derby in 1266 but allowed to keep Chartley)
In footnote (h) p. 65 Cokayne says “The names and succession of these Earls... is most obscure. That given in the text is the one thought most probable by Mr. Eyton...
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From Complete Peerage of England Col 3 Cokayne 1890, p. 65:
II. 1139. 2. ROBERT (FERRERS), EABL OF DERBY, … he styled himself “Robertus Comes junior de Ferrariis”... He is said by some[g] to have m. Margaret, da. and h. of William Peverel...
Footnote [g]: By (inter alios) Mr. James Doyle in his “Official Baronage” and if any Earl (Ferrers), of Dreby, is to be credited with such a wife (and this wife has been attributed to several), this Earl is as likely to have been her husband, as any. It is, however, far more probable that his Margaret Peverl never had any existence, and that the Peverel estates came to the Ferrers family thro' the match of the 5th Earl with Afnes, sister and coheir of Randolp, Earl of Chester, grandson of Randolph, Earl of Chester, the grantee thereof.
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The Visitations of the County of Sussex, 1530 and 1633-4, Benolte and Philipot (1905), p. 4, footnote to entry for the Shirley family from "Harl. 1562, fos. 6a, 7, and 7a":
https://archive.org/stream/visitationscoun00owengoog#page/n18/mode/2up/search/Ferris
"...in the days of King Henry the first [reigned 1100-1135] & of K. Stephen [regined 1135-1154] ye elder Henry at yt tyme held of Sr Robt Ferris Lord of Tithery fyve knights fyes in Darbish & Fulchr his brothr of ye same Sr Robt held 4 knights fyes in the sayd shire unto whome moreover Wm at that tyme Prior of Tithery gave 4 oxganges of lands in Shirley & St Robt ferris confirmed yt gift by his charter und seale ... who in the dayes of K. H.2 [reigned 1154-1189] acknowledged himself to hould ye same of Wm Erle ferrys as well as ye IX knights yt his fathr as the 4 that his uncull held of Sr Robt Ferris of Titbery."
p. 73, entry for Cooke-Cobert "[Harl. 1562, fos. 53a and 54]"
Francis Bohun married to "Sibell d. of Wm. Ferrers Erle of Darby [1193-1254]." William de Ferrers was married to Sibyl Marshall, the daughter of William Marshal (1146-1219), who was guardian to King Henry III, and Isabel de Clare (1173-1220)
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Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry, Vol 1 (1852):
Henry de Ferrariis (1036-1088) & Bertha d”Aigle
Robert de Ferrières (1062-1139) & Hawise de Vitre, 1st Earl of Derby
Robert de Ferrières (1062-1139) was grandfather of:
William de Ferrers (1140-1190) & daughter of William Peverel, 3rd Earl of Derby
Robert de Ferrers () & Sibilla de Braose, 4th Earl of Derby
Robert de Ferrers () grandfather of:
William de Ferrers (1172-1247) & Agnes Cyvelioc, 6th Earl of Derby
William de Ferrers (1193-1254) & Sibell Marshall (& Margaret de Quincey), 7th Earl of Derby
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From Wikipedia
Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby. (2016, March 30). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 23:24, May 11, 2016, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_de_Ferrers,_2nd_Earl_of_Derby&oldid=712753433
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From FindAGrave
Birth: 1100
Derbyshire, England
Death: 1160
Merevale
Warwickshire, England
2nd Earl Derby
Family links:
Parents:
Robert de Ferrers (1062 - 1139)
Spouse:
Margaret Peverel Ferrers (1100 - ____)*
Children:
William De Ferrers (1140 - 1190)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial: Merevale Abbey, Merevale, North Warwickshire Borough, Warwickshire, England
Plot: marble tomb effigy with wife
Created by: Carolyn Gray
Record added: Feb 05, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 47632524
Robert de Ferrers, 2nd earlof Derby, styled himself " Robertus, comes junior de Ferrariis," and "Robertus, comes junior de Notingham." He founded Merevale-abbey, co. of Warwick (see. p. 56), and lies bur.t here. He was succeeded by his son and heir,
William de Ferrers, 3rd earlof Derby, living 1167.
[Palmer lists no other children.]
Palmer's order of descent is:
Henry de Ferrariis (1036-1088) & Bertha d”Aigle
Robert de Ferrières (1062-1139) & Hawise de Vitre, 1st Earl of Derby
Robert de Ferrariis (1100-1160) & No wife, 2nd Earl of Derby
William de Ferrers (1140-1190) & daughter of William Peverel, 3rd Earl of Derby
Robert de Ferrers () & Sibilla de Braose, 4th Earl of Derby
William de Ferrers (1140-1190) & Sibella ? Was his wife, ? Earl of Derby?
William de Ferrers (1172-1247) & Agnes Cyvelioc, 6th Earl of Derby
William de Ferrers (1193-1254) & Sibell Marshall (& Margaret de Quincey), 7th Earl of Derby (also buried at Merevale Abbey)
William de Ferrers (1240-1288) & Helen Lovaine (d.1287)
William de Ferrers (1272-1325) & Elizabeth Seagrave, 1st Baron of Groby?
Henry de Ferrers (1303-1343 & Isabell de Verdon,
Robert de Ferrers (1239-1279 Palmer says death in 1274), by M. de Quincey) & Alianor Basset, 8th & last Earl of Derby
Robert's (1239-1274) son John became barons of Chartley,
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From thePeeragecom
Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby1
M, #158537, b. circa 1090, d. 1162
Last Edited=13 Oct 2014
Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby was born circa 1090 at Derbyshire, England.1 He was the son of Robert de Ferrers, 1st Earl of Derby and Hawise de Vitre.1 He married Margaret Peverel, daughter of William Peverel and Alice de Lancaster, in 1135 at Nottinghamshire, England.1 He died in 1162 at Merevale, Warwickshire, England.1,2
He succeeded to the title of 2nd Earl of Derby in 1139.
Child of Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby and Margaret Peverel
William de Ferrers, 3rd Earl of Derby+1 b. 1140, d. a 31 Dec 1189
Citations
[S125] Richard Glanville-Brown, online
[S130] Wikipedia, online http;//www.wikipedia.org. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
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Cokayne's Complete Peerage:
Complete Peerage of England, Vol 3, Cokayne (1890), p. 64 et seq. indictes the following lineage:
Henry de Ferrariis (1036-1038) & Bertha d”Aigle
1138 Robert de Ferrières (1062-1139) & Hawise de Vitre, 1st Earl of Derby
1139 Robert de Ferrariis (1100-1160) & No wife, 2nd Earl of Derby
1162 William de Ferrers (1140-1190) & Sybilla de Braose, 3rd Earl of Derby
1190 William de Ferrers (1172-1247) & Agnes Kevelioc, 4th Earl of Derby
1247 William de Ferrers (1193-1254) & Sybilla Marshall (& Margaret de Quincey), 5th Earl of Derby
From Complete Peerage of England Col 3 Cokayne 1890, p. 65:
1254-1266 Robert's (1239-1274) son John became barons of Chartley, married 1st Marie Le Brun & 2nd Eleanor Basset (disinherited of Derby in 1266 but allowed to keep Chartley)
In footnote (h) p. 65 Cokayne says “The names and succession of these Earls... is most obscure. That given in the text is the one thought most probable by Mr. Eyton...
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From Complete Peerage of England Col 3 Cokayne 1890, p. 65:
II. 1139. 2. ROBERT (FERRERS), EABL OF DERBY, … he styled himself “Robertus Comes junior de Ferrariis”... He is said by some[g] to have m. Margaret, da. and h. of William Peverel...
Footnote [g]: By (inter alios) Mr. James Doyle in his “Official Baronage” and if any Earl (Ferrers), of Dreby, is to be credited with such a wife (and this wife has been attributed to several), this Earl is as likely to have been her husband, as any. It is, however, far more probable that his Margaret Peverl never had any existence, and that the Peverel estates came to the Ferrers family thro' the match of the 5th Earl with Afnes, sister and coheir of Randolp, Earl of Chester, grandson of Randolph, Earl of Chester, the grantee thereof.
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The Visitations of the County of Sussex, 1530 and 1633-4, Benolte and Philipot (1905), p. 4, footnote to entry for the Shirley family from "Harl. 1562, fos. 6a, 7, and 7a":
https://archive.org/stream/visitationscoun00owengoog#page/n18/mode/2up/search/Ferris
"...in the days of King Henry the first [reigned 1100-1135] & of K. Stephen [regined 1135-1154] ye elder Henry at yt tyme held of Sr Robt Ferris Lord of Tithery fyve knights fyes in Darbish & Fulchr his brothr of ye same Sr Robt held 4 knights fyes in the sayd shire unto whome moreover Wm at that tyme Prior of Tithery gave 4 oxganges of lands in Shirley & St Robt ferris confirmed yt gift by his charter und seale ... who in the dayes of K. H.2 [reigned 1154-1189] acknowledged himself to hould ye same of Wm Erle ferrys as well as ye IX knights yt his fathr as the 4 that his uncull held of Sr Robt Ferris of Titbery."
p. 73, entry for Cooke-Cobert "[Harl. 1562, fos. 53a and 54]"
Francis Bohun married to "Sibell d. of Wm. Ferrers Erle of Darby [1193-1254]." William de Ferrers was married to Sibyl Marshall, the daughter of William Marshal (1146-1219), who was guardian to King Henry III, and Isabel de Clare (1173-1220)
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Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry, Vol 1 (1852):
Henry de Ferrariis (1036-1088) & Bertha d”Aigle
Robert de Ferrières (1062-1139) & Hawise de Vitre, 1st Earl of Derby
Robert de Ferrières (1062-1139) was grandfather of:
William de Ferrers (1140-1190) & daughter of William Peverel, 3rd Earl of Derby
Robert de Ferrers () & Sibilla de Braose, 4th Earl of Derby
Robert de Ferrers () grandfather of:
William de Ferrers (1172-1247) & Agnes Cyvelioc, 6th Earl of Derby
William de Ferrers (1193-1254) & Sibell Marshall (& Margaret de Quincey), 7th Earl of Derby
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From Wikipedia
Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby. (2016, March 30). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 23:24, May 11, 2016, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_de_Ferrers,_2nd_Earl_of_Derby&oldid=712753433
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From FindAGrave
Birth: 1100
Derbyshire, England
Death: 1160
Merevale
Warwickshire, England
2nd Earl Derby
Family links:
Parents:
Robert de Ferrers (1062 - 1139)
Spouse:
Margaret Peverel Ferrers (1100 - ____)*
Children:
William De Ferrers (1140 - 1190)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial: Merevale Abbey, Merevale, North Warwickshire Borough, Warwickshire, England
Plot: marble tomb effigy with wife
Created by: Carolyn Gray
Record added: Feb 05, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 47632524
Events
| Birth | 1090 | Derbyshire, England | |||
| Title (Nobility) | 1139 | 2nd Earl of Derby | |||
| Occupation | Bef 1159 | Became a monk before 1159 | |||
| Death | Bef 1163 | Merevale, Warwickshire, England | |||
| Alt name | Robert de Ferrers | ||||
| Burial | Merevale Abbey, Merevale, Warwickshire, England | ||||
| Miscellaneous | Founded Merevale Abbey - Merevale Abbey, Merevale, Warwickshire, England |
Families
| Spouse | Margaret Peverel (1114 - 1154) |
| Child | William de Ferrariis (1140 - 1190) |
| Father | Robert de Ferrières (1062 - 1139) |
| Mother | Hawise de Vitre (1069 - ) |
| Sibling | Isolda de Ferrières ( - ) |
| Sibling | Matilda de Ferrières ( - ) |
| Sibling | unnamed Daughter de Ferrières ( - ) |
| Sibling | William de Ferrers ( - 1139) |
| Sibling | Walcheline de Ferrières ( - 1191) |