Individual Details

Edmund de Ferrers

(1386 - 1435)

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ID: I11458
Reference Number: 11458
Name: Edmund DE FERRERS Knt., de jure 6th Lord Ferrers of Chartley 1 2 3 4
Name: Edmund FERRERS Knt., de jure 6th Lord Ferrers of Chartley 3 4
Name: Edward FERRERS 6th Lord of Charley
Sex: M
Change Date: 25 DEC 2013
Reference Number: GKJ18
Note:

Faris (1999, pp. 137-138): [quote] EDMUND DE FERRERS, Knt., of Chartley , co. Stafford, was born about 1387 (aged twenty-six or more at father' s death). About 1413, assisted by his brothers, Thomas and Edward, he car ried on a private war with the Erdeswikes of Sandon, near Chartley, recei ving a pardon on 24 Jan. 1414/5. He was married to ELLEN DE LA ROCHE, Lad y of Castle Bromwich, second daughter and co-heiress of Thomas de Ia Roch e, of Castle Bromwich, co. Warwick, by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress o f Thomas Birmingham, Knt., and niece and heiress of John Birmingham, Knt. , of Birmingham, co. Warwick, Kingston Bagpuze, co. Berks, etc. He accomp anied the King to France in August 1415, and was at the siege of Harfleur , and at the Battle of Agincourt on 25 Oct. 1415. SIR EDMUND DE FERRERS [ 6th Lord Ferrers of Chartley de jure] died on 17 Dec. 1435. His widow wa s married for the second time, as his first wife, to Philip Chetwynd, Knt ., of Ingestre, co. Stafford, and Grendon, co. Warwick (died 10 May 144 4 s.p.). She died on 4 Nov. 1440.
Gen. n.s. 19:247 (1902). C.P. 2:47 (1912) (wife of John Beauchamp of Pow ick was "Margaret, sister of Richard Ferrars"). C.P. 5:317-319 (1926) (us ually called Lord Ferrers of Chartley), 320 chart (in 1439 Ellen, wife o f Philip Chetwynd, provided forty shilIings a year each for Henry, Richan d, and Edward Ferrers "sons of the said Ellen"). V.C.H. Warwick 4:253 (19 47). Paget (1957) 206:4-5 (identifies four sons and one daughter, based o n deed of, and marriage contract of daughter Joan with John, Lord Clinton , dated 29 Oct. 1431, citing Add.Mss.24481 fo 20v. No.82).
Children of Edmund de Ferrers, by Ellen de Ia Roche:
i.WILLIAM FERRERS [see next].
ii.MARGARET FERRERS, married JOHN BEAUCHAMP [see LIGON 7], [end quote ] 5

Note: GKJ-18
Occupation: 5th Lord (Baron) Ferrers of Chartley 1
Note:

"Edmund de Ferrers, 5th Baron Ferrers, of Chartley, but never summoned t o parliament, was b. 1389. This nobleman participated in most of the gre at victories of King Henry V. His lordship m. Eleanor, dau. and co-hei r of Thomas de la Roche, by Elizabeth Bermingham his wife, by whom he acq uire large landed possessions, amongst which was that of Castle Bromwich , co. Derby, and by her (who m. 2ndly, Philip Chetwynd of Ingestre, and d . 1439-40), he had issue,
William, his successor.
Edmund, upon whom the estates were entailed.
John.
He d. 1435-6, and was s. by his eldest son, William de Ferrers, 6th Baro n Ferrers, of Chartley..." 1

Birth: ABT 1387
Note: per Racines et Histoires says b. 1389 6 3
Death: 17 DEC 1435 6 1 3

Father: Robert DE FERRERS Knt., de jure 5th Lord Ferrers of Chartley b: BET 31 OCT 1357 AND 1359 in Chartley, Staffordshire, England
Mother: Margaret LE DESPENSER b: ABT 1360 in Ryhall, Rutland, England

Marriage 1 Ellen\Eleanor DE LA ROCHE

Married: BEF 1412
Note: her 1st husband 5 1 7 8 3 9

Children

Has Children Margaret FERRERS
Has No Children Richard DE FERRERS
Has No Children Henry FERRERS
Has No Children Edward FERRERS
Has No Children Joan FERRERS
Has Children Edmund FERRERS of Taynton b: BEF 1387
Has Children William FERRERS Knt., de jure 7th Lord Baron Ferrers of Chartley b: ABT 1412

Sources:

Title: Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage, Subject: Notab le British Families
Abbrev: Notable British Families CD # 367
Publication: Broderbund Software Company, 1999
Page: Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co ., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers o f Chartley, p. 199
Title: Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell", Recip ient: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, Author E-mail: UTZ@aol.com
Abbrev: Utz email #2 29 May 2005
Author: David Utz
Publication: 29 May 2005
Page: 9 [24] Edmund de Ferrers b: Abt. 1387 d: 17 December 1435
.... +[25] Ellen de la Roche m: Bef. 1412 d: 04 November 1440
Title: Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edit ion, Author Address: 1681 West 1000 North, Salt Lake City, Utah 84116 USA , Author E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com
Abbrev: Richardson PA
Author: Douglas Richardson
Publication: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004
Page: Ferrers 12: p. 309
Title: Leo van de Pas Web Site "Leo's Genealogics Website", Url: http://www.gene alogics.org/index.php
Abbrev: Leo's Genealogics Website
Page: Edmund Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177 559&tree=LEO
Title: Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent fro m the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edwar d III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonie s before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition
Abbrev: Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry"
Author: David Faris
Publication: New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, MA, 1999
Page: p. 40
Title: Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent fro m the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edwar d III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonie s before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition
Abbrev: Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry"
Author: David Faris
Publication: New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, MA, 1999
Page: p. 138
Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America befor e 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotlan d, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition, Recor d Number: I
Abbrev: Weis AR-7
Author: Frederick Lewis Weis
Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992
Note:
Royal Families
Page: line 56B-35, p. 62
Title: Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell", Recip ient: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, Author E-mail: UTZ@aol.com
Abbrev: Utz email #2 29 May 2005
Author: David Utz
Publication: 29 May 2005
Title: Leo van de Pas Web Site "Leo's Genealogics Website", Url: http://www.gene alogics.org/index.php
Abbrev: Leo's Genealogics Website
Page: Ellen Roche: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177560 &tree=LEO

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From Wikipedia

Edmund de Ferrers, 5th Baron Ferrers of Chartley. (2016, April 15). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 23:27, May 11, 2016, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edmund_de_Ferrers,_5th_Baron_Ferrers_of_Chartley&oldid=715393030
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From Burke's Peerage
EDMUND DE FERRERS, Knt., of Chartley , co. Stafford, was born about 1387 (aged twenty-six or more at father' s death). About 1413, assisted by his brothers, Thomas and Edward, he carried on a private war with the Erdeswikes of Sandon, near Chartley, receiving a pardon on 24 Jan. 1414/5. He was married to ELLEN DE LA ROCHE, Lad y of Castle Bromwich, second daughter and co-heiress of Thomas de Ia Roche, of Castle Bromwich, co. Warwick, by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of Thomas Birmingham, Knt., and niece and heiress of John Birmingham, Knt. , of Birmingham, co. Warwick, Kingston Bagpuze, co. Berks, etc. He accompanied the King to France in August 1415, and was at the siege of Harfleur, and at the Battle of Agincourt on 25 Oct. 1415. SIR EDMUND DE FERRERS [ 6th Lord Ferrers of Chartley de jure] died on 17 Dec. 1435. His widow was married for the second time, as his first wife, to Philip Chetwynd, Knt ., of Ingestre, co. Stafford, and Grendon, co. Warwick (died 10 May 144 4 s.p.). She died on 4 Nov. 1440.
Gen. n.s. 19:247 (1902). C.P. 2:47 (1912) (wife of John Beauchamp of Powick was "Margaret, sister of Richard Ferrars"). C.P. 5:317-319 (1926) (usually called Lord Ferrers of Chartley), 320 chart (in 1439 Ellen, wife of Philip Chetwynd, provided forty shilIings a year each for Henry, Richard, and Edward Ferrers "sons of the said Ellen"). V.C.H. Warwick 4:253 (19 47). Paget (1957) 206:4-5 (identifies four sons and one daughter, based on deed of, and marriage contract of daughter Joan with John, Lord Clinton , dated 29 Oct. 1431, citing Add.Mss.24481 fo 20v. No.82).
Children of Edmund de Ferrers, by Ellen de Ia Roche:
i.WILLIAM FERRERS [see next].
ii.MARGARET FERRERS, married JOHN BEAUCHAMP [see LIGON 7]


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From RootsWeb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gregv&id=I11458#s1

ID: I11458
Reference Number: 11458
Name: Edmund DE FERRERS Knt., de jure 6th Lord Ferrers of Chartley 1 2 3 4
Name: Edmund FERRERS Knt., de jure 6th Lord Ferrers of Chartley 3 4
Name: Edward FERRERS 6th Lord of Charley
Sex: M
Change Date: 25 DEC 2013
Reference Number: GKJ18
Note:

Faris (1999, pp. 137-138): [quote] EDMUND DE FERRERS, Knt., of Chartley , co. Stafford, was born about 1387 (aged twenty-six or more at father' s death). About 1413, assisted by his brothers, Thomas and Edward, he car ried on a private war with the Erdeswikes of Sandon, near Chartley, recei ving a pardon on 24 Jan. 1414/5. He was married to ELLEN DE LA ROCHE, Lad y of Castle Bromwich, second daughter and co-heiress of Thomas de Ia Roch e, of Castle Bromwich, co. Warwick, by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress o f Thomas Birmingham, Knt., and niece and heiress of John Birmingham, Knt. , of Birmingham, co. Warwick, Kingston Bagpuze, co. Berks, etc. He accomp anied the King to France in August 1415, and was at the siege of Harfleur , and at the Battle of Agincourt on 25 Oct. 1415. SIR EDMUND DE FERRERS [ 6th Lord Ferrers of Chartley de jure] died on 17 Dec. 1435. His widow wa s married for the second time, as his first wife, to Philip Chetwynd, Knt ., of Ingestre, co. Stafford, and Grendon, co. Warwick (died 10 May 144 4 s.p.). She died on 4 Nov. 1440.
Gen. n.s. 19:247 (1902). C.P. 2:47 (1912) (wife of John Beauchamp of Pow ick was "Margaret, sister of Richard Ferrars"). C.P. 5:317-319 (1926) (usually called Lord Ferrers of Chartley), 320 chart (in 1439 Ellen, wife o f Philip Chetwynd, provided forty shilIings a year each for Henry, Richan d, and Edward Ferrers "sons of the said Ellen"). V.C.H. Warwick 4:253 (19 47). Paget (1957) 206:4-5 (identifies four sons and one daughter, based on deed of, and marriage contract of daughter Joan with John, Lord Clinton , dated 29 Oct. 1431, citing Add.Mss.24481 fo 20v. No.82).
Children of Edmund de Ferrers, by Ellen de Ia Roche:
i.WILLIAM FERRERS [see next].
ii.MARGARET FERRERS, married JOHN BEAUCHAMP [see LIGON 7], [end quote ] 5

Note: GKJ-18
Occupation: 5th Lord (Baron) Ferrers of Chartley 1
Note:

"Edmund de Ferrers, 5th Baron Ferrers, of Chartley, but never summoned t o parliament, was b. 1389. This nobleman participated in most of the great victories of King Henry V. His lordship m. Eleanor, dau. and co-heir of Thomas de la Roche, by Elizabeth Bermingham his wife, by whom he acquire large landed possessions, amongst which was that of Castle Bromwich , co. Derby, and by her (whom. 2ndly, Philip Chetwynd of Ingestre, and d . 1439-40), he had issue,
William, his successor.
Edmund, upon whom the estates were entailed.
John.
He d. 1435-6, and was s. by his eldest son, William de Ferrers, 6th Baro n Ferrers, of Chartley..." 1

Birth: ABT 1387
Note: per Racines et Histoires says b. 1389 6 3
Death: 17 DEC 1435 6 1 3

Father: Robert DE FERRERS Knt., de jure 5th Lord Ferrers of Chartley b: BET 31 OCT 1357 AND 1359 in Chartley, Staffordshire, England
Mother: Margaret LE DESPENSER b: ABT 1360 in Ryhall, Rutland, England

Marriage 1 Ellen\Eleanor DE LA ROCHE

Married: BEF 1412
Note: her 1st husband 5 1 7 8 3 9

Children

Has Children Margaret FERRERS
Has No Children Richard DE FERRERS
Has No Children Henry FERRERS
Has No Children Edward FERRERS
Has No Children Joan FERRERS
Has Children Edmund FERRERS of Taynton b: BEF 1387
Has Children William FERRERS Knt., de jure 7th Lord Baron Ferrers of Chartley b: ABT 1412


Sources:

Title: Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage, Subject: Notab le British Families
Abbrev: Notable British Families CD # 367
Publication: Broderbund Software Company, 1999
Page: Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co ., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers o f Chartley, p. 199
Title: Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell", Recip ient: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, Author E-mail: UTZ@aol.com
Abbrev: Utz email #2 29 May 2005
Author: David Utz
Publication: 29 May 2005
Page: 9 [24] Edmund de Ferrers b: Abt. 1387 d: 17 December 1435
.... +[25] Ellen de la Roche m: Bef. 1412 d: 04 November 1440
Title: Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edit ion, Author Address: 1681 West 1000 North, Salt Lake City, Utah 84116 USA , Author E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com
Abbrev: Richardson PA
Author: Douglas Richardson
Publication: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004
Page: Ferrers 12: p. 309
Title: Leo van de Pas Web Site "Leo's Genealogics Website", Url: http://www.gene alogics.org/index.php
Abbrev: Leo's Genealogics Website
Page: Edmund Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177 559&tree=LEO
Title: Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent fro m the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edwar d III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonie s before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition
Abbrev: Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry"
Author: David Faris
Publication: New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, MA, 1999
Page: p. 40
Title: Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent fro m the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edwar d III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonie s before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition
Abbrev: Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry"
Author: David Faris
Publication: New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, MA, 1999
Page: p. 138
Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America befor e 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotlan d, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition, Recor d Number: I
Abbrev: Weis AR-7
Author: Frederick Lewis Weis
Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992
Note:
Royal Families
Page: line 56B-35, p. 62
Title: Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell", Recip ient: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, Author E-mail: UTZ@aol.com
Abbrev: Utz email #2 29 May 2005
Author: David Utz
Publication: 29 May 2005
Title: Leo van de Pas Web Site "Leo's Genealogics Website", Url: http://www.gene alogics.org/index.php
Abbrev: Leo's Genealogics Website
Page: Ellen Roche: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177560 &tree=LEO

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From Wikipedia

Edmund de Ferrers, 5th Baron Ferrers of Chartley
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edmund de Ferrers, 5th Baron Ferrers of Chartley (1386–1435) was the son of Robert de Ferrers, 4th Baron Ferrers of Chartley and Margaret Le Despenser - a daughter of Edward le Despencer, 1st Baron le Despencer.

He inherited the title of Baron Ferrers of Chartley upon his father's death in 1413 but was never summoned to parliament.

Edmund fought in most of the great victories of King Henry V including the Battle of Agincourt and married Helen, daughter and co-heir of Thomas de la Roche, by whom he acquired large landed possessions, amongst which was that of Castle Bromwich in the county of Warwickshire.

The couple had two sons, Edmund (to whom his estates were entailed) and William who became William, 6th Baron Ferrers of Chartley as well as one daughter Margaret de Ferrers who married John Beauchamp, 1st Baron Beauchamp of Powick becoming Lady Beaucamp of Powick in her own right.

Edmund de Ferrers, 5th Baron Ferrers of Chartley died aged 49 in 1435.
See also

Earl of Stafford
Earl of Derby

References

Kidd, Charles, Williamson, David (editors). Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage (1990 edition). New York: St Martin's Press, 1990.
Leigh Rayment's Peerage Pages [self-published source][better source needed]
www.thepeerage.com
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From Burke's Peerage
EDMUND DE FERRERS, Knt., of Chartley , co. Stafford, was born about 1387 (aged twenty-six or more at father' s death). About 1413, assisted by his brothers, Thomas and Edward, he carried on a private war with the Erdeswikes of Sandon, near Chartley, receiving a pardon on 24 Jan. 1414/5. He was married to ELLEN DE LA ROCHE, Lad y of Castle Bromwich, second daughter and co-heiress of Thomas de Ia Roche, of Castle Bromwich, co. Warwick, by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of Thomas Birmingham, Knt., and niece and heiress of John Birmingham, Knt. , of Birmingham, co. Warwick, Kingston Bagpuze, co. Berks, etc. He accompanied the King to France in August 1415, and was at the siege of Harfleur, and at the Battle of Agincourt on 25 Oct. 1415. SIR EDMUND DE FERRERS [ 6th Lord Ferrers of Chartley de jure] died on 17 Dec. 1435. His widow was married for the second time, as his first wife, to Philip Chetwynd, Knt ., of Ingestre, co. Stafford, and Grendon, co. Warwick (died 10 May 144 4 s.p.). She died on 4 Nov. 1440.
Gen. n.s. 19:247 (1902). C.P. 2:47 (1912) (wife of John Beauchamp of Powick was "Margaret, sister of Richard Ferrars"). C.P. 5:317-319 (1926) (usually called Lord Ferrers of Chartley), 320 chart (in 1439 Ellen, wife of Philip Chetwynd, provided forty shilIings a year each for Henry, Richard, and Edward Ferrers "sons of the said Ellen"). V.C.H. Warwick 4:253 (19 47). Paget (1957) 206:4-5 (identifies four sons and one daughter, based on deed of, and marriage contract of daughter Joan with John, Lord Clinton , dated 29 Oct. 1431, citing Add.Mss.24481 fo 20v. No.82).
Children of Edmund de Ferrers, by Ellen de Ia Roche:
i.WILLIAM FERRERS [see next].
ii.MARGARET FERRERS, married JOHN BEAUCHAMP [see LIGON 7]

Events

Birth1386
Military25 Oct 1415Battle of Agincourt
Death1435
Title (Nobility)5th Baron Ferrers of Chartley

Families

SpouseHelen de la Roche ( - )
ChildRichard de Ferrers ( - )
ChildEdmund de Ferrers ( - )
ChildWilliam Ferrers (1412 - 1450)
ChildMargaret Ferrers ( - 1407)
ChildHenry de Ferrers ( - )
FatherRobert de Ferrers (1358 - 1413)
MotherMargaret Le Despenser (1360 - )
SiblingPhilippa de Ferrers ( - )