Individual Details
Capt John Clay VI
(1587 - 7 Apr 1655)
[[Category: Ancient Planter of Virginia]]
[[Category: Jamestown, Virginia]]
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== Biography ==
John Thomas Clay was born about 1587/88 in Monmouth, Wales. He died Apr. 7, 1655 - 60 in Charles City, Virginia.Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Deaths [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001. He was known as Captain John Clay, "the English Grenadier" (hired soldier in the King's army) .John was the earliest American ancestor of the Clay family to come to Virginia. [https://www.jstor.org/stable/4245272?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents "Some Notes on the Clay Family"], The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography,Vol. 52, No. 1 (Jan., 1944), pp. 59-62, Pub., Virginia Historical Society
==Disputed Parents==
John Clay is said to have been the son of [[Clay-1013|Sir John Thomas Clay]] and Mary Ann (Carlton) Clay. This however, is speculative and to date not supported by any provable facts. Very little is actually known of John Clay prior to his immigration in 1613. Circumstantial evidence indicates he may have been an English soldier aboard the "Treasurer" but this is also unproved as are his parents and attempts to connect him to "noble" ancestors. Refer to [http://www.clayfamilysociety.org/ui38.htm John Clay - Fact and Fiction] an address to the Jamestowne Society, May 6, 1995 by the late Robert Young Clay, (4 September 1936-6 May 2010) a Clay descendant, also a renowned Clay researcher and speaker, Archivist for the Library of Virginia, and artist.
== Immigration ==John Clay, an [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_planter ancient planter], came to Virginia in 1613 and his wife Ann in 1623. He patented lands in 1635 on Ward's creek, in what is now Prince George county. [http://vagenweb.org/tylers_bios/vol1-20.htm#bottom Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, page 212]
He arrived in Jamestown with his two younger brothers in the 'TREASURER", Feb of 1613 according to the muster on the 'Treasurer'. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s,p 67. [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010. Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012.< http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pili354&h=4118014&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt> The Treasurer, sent to protect the settlers in Jamestowne, was commanded and partially owned by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Argall|Captain Samuel Argall], who was a brother of [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59757079 Elizabeth Argall Filmer], ancestress of [[Green-1725|Martha]] & [[Green-1726|Lucy Green Clay]] (wife of [[Clay-378|Henry Clay 1711-1764]]). The First Republic in America" by Alexander Brown, pg 282
== Ancient Planter ==
It is stated in his muster that he (John Clay) was a planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale. Kinard, June. comp., Early Immigrants to Virginia from the 1500s and 1600s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data Published by The Researchers, PO box 39063, Indianapolis IN. 46239-0063.
== Marriage ==
John married (1st) Anne. Some have said her maiden name was Nichols, however all that is known for certain is that her given name was Anne.
John had married before leaving England and left his wife Anne behind. She arrived on the 'ANN", August 1623. John Camden Hotten: London, 1874. Reprint by Empire State Book Co., New York. [http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/jamestown/census/jameship.txt THE CENSUS OF VIRGINIA IN 1624; Ann Claye, wife of John Claye] In 1624 they were living in Charles City, Virginia, along the banks of the James River where John had been granted 1200 acres in the County, beginning at the lands granted by order of Court to Francis Hooke, up to the head of Wards, his creek, and bounded on the north by the James River. Due 100 acres to him as an old planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale, and the other 1100 for the transportation of 21 persons by the "west"., July 13, 1635. These lands granted John were near the present City Point, only a few miles from what is now Chesterfield County, and no other settler of the name is mentioned in any record in this section. Richmond Critic, 1888
After Anne died about 1645, John married (2nd) Elizabeth. Her maiden name is said to be Frame, however this is not certain. (Note: John Clay descendant, David Douglas, has YDNA and auDNA matches with several testers bearing the Frame surname.)
== Children ==#Thomas Clay [https://archive.org/stream/clayfamily00smit/clayfamily00smit_djvu.txt "The Clay Family" (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay]
#Francis Clay Ibid
#[[Clay-340|William Clay]] Ibid
#[[Clay-340|Anne Clay]], b, abt. 1610, m John Frame (1608-1655)
#[[Clay-1179|John Clay]], b abt. 1624
#[[Clay-11|Charles Clay]], b abt. 1638 Ibid
==Uncertain Children==The list of children for John Clay was compiled from several sources and it may contain errors. It is based on the work of many researchers of the Clay Family and has been reproduced in many online Clay family trees. Additionally, there are several published books and articles along with the dozens of online accounts of the children of John Clay. Each one seems to contain different and sometimes confusing accounts or listings of his children. Where they do seem to agree most often is on WIlliam and John, who are found in the colonial property records of Virginia, each having land nearby their father. [http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/john_clay_&_elizabeth.htm John Clay & Elizabeth] We will examine these different accounts, try to determine the verifiable facts, and discover if possible, the sources of this information, and finally attempt to separate fact from error. Each of the listed children of John Clay will be examined with the hope of proving or disproving their parent/child relationship through the discovery and presentation of supporting documentation and solid evidence. Given that primary evidence may be scarce or no longer exist we may be left to examine the circumstantial evidence and "leap of faith" that led researchers to make their conclusion. After examination of the logic and validity of such conclusions it will be left to the reader to draw their own conclusions as to accuracy.
The late Reverend Stephen O. Southall, a genealogist with 50 years of research into colonial Virginia records in his "Notes on the Clay Family", in regards to the children of John Clay, the immigrant wrote :
:"In her excellent book entitled The Clay Family (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay states (pages 65-66) that John Clay, the emigrant, had four (4) sons, naming as two (2) of them Francis Clay of Northumberland county and Thomas Clay, one of the fourteen persons "who did unlawfully assemble at ye p���ish church of Lawnes Creek [Surry County] with intent to declare they would not pay their publiq taxes…"
:"This is certainly an error and as I was partly the cause of the error, I wish to correct it, and give as far as I can, the true history, though the facts are meagre. When Mrs. Clay asked me for the names of the Clays in Virginia, I gave her the names of '''Francis Clay''' and '''Thomas Clay'''; but failed to tell her that they were not descended from John Clay, the emigrant".
This statement from the Reverend Stephen O. Southall indicates that Francis and Thomas Clay were mistakenly identified as sons of John Clay, the immigrant. The work of Mrs Mary Rogers Clay, "The Clay Family" was published in 1899 and for more than 100 years has been cited as a primary reference regarding Capt John Clay and his descendants. [https://archive.org/stream/clayfamily00smit/clayfamily00smit_djvu.txt "The Clay Family" (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay] [http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/john_clay_&_elizabeth.htm Genealogy of VA Families VII 1981,Some Notes on the Clay Family p 77-80],Contributed by the late Reverend Stephen O. Southall
From her book, "The Clay Family" we read the following regarding the children of John Clay, the Immigrant :
:"The children of Captain John and Ann Clay, so far as known, were :
:I. '''Francis Clay''', whose name appears on the records of Northumberland County, Virginia, from October 19, 1652, in the grants of lands, until June 8, 1658, and in Westmoreland County on May 21, 1666.
:II.'''William Clay'''. In 1655 William Bayley had a patent for four hundred acres of land on Ward's Creek, purchased of William Clay, son of John Clay, assignee of Francis Hooke, patentee of 1637.
:III. '''Thomas Clay''', one of fourteen persons "who did unlawfully Assemble at ye pish church o Lawnes Creeke, with Intent to declare they would not pay theire publiq taxes, & yt they expected diverse others to meet them. ( Surry Co., 3rd J any Ao. Dom. 1673.)" (William and Mary Quarterly Magazine.) 2.
:IV. '''Charles Clay''', born 1638, died 1686 (intestate). He married Hannah Wilson, daughter of John Wilson, senior, of Henrico County, Virginia, and states in Court, April, 1686, that he has received his wife's part of her father's estate. ( 1688- 1697, page 360.)"
We have already learned that Francis Clay and Thomas Clay were included in this 1899 genealogy as children of John Clay by Mrs Clay based on statements made by Reverend Stephen O. Southall, an error which he later corrected. We could examine this question in depth with a further exploration of primary records, however since we know the source of the misinformation, and that the author of that information published a correction of the erroneous application of that information we will accept his correction as sufficient evidence that '''Francis Clay and Thomas Clay were not the sons of John Clay, the Immigrant.'''
This leaves us with William, John, Charles and Anne as possible children. We will look at Anne first. This is what we find. John FRAME A militia Captain who came to Va in 1622 Emigrates to Virginia in 1622 (Book I) on the ship Southampton, indentured to Captain John Harvey. He was born in 1607/8 at England. He married Ann Clay ? in 1629/30. He married Mary LAWRENCE (2257) in 1653/54. He died onDec 17, 1655 at Charles City Co., Va. Ann Clay ? was born in 1610. She married John FRAME , son of John FRAME , in 1629/30. She died in 1649/50 at Charles City Co., Va. [http://www.ghotes.net/PDF%20Files/Ahnentafel-Eva%20Virginia%20Justis.PDF Ahnentafel of Eva Virginia JUSTIS (1806)] This comes from an unsourced ancestor table. It is noted that Ann Clay is not found in the work of Mrs Mary Rogers Clay as a child of John Clay. There is a John Frame mentioned in several land transactions in Charles County. He evidently lived near John Clay (possibly John Clay Jr). The record states, August 23, 1643, John Wall patented 1790 acres on Chippoakes Creek, between John Hooke and William Pilkington, adjacent John Clay and John Freme. One William Bailey patented 400 acres of land in Charles City, May 1, 1655, "part of a dividend of 200 acres granted Captain Francis Hooke, 26, October 1637 and assigned to John Clay and John Freme and by inheritance descended unto William Clay son of said John and by William Bailey purchased of said William Clay, the younger." It seems safe to say that since there was a William Clay, the younger, there would be an older William Clay. This would seem to support the existence of both sons, John and William Clay. Captain John Frame is indicated in genealogical histories and family trees as having married twice, first to an Anne, her maiden name, which is usually given as Clay is unproved and not known. [https://sites.google.com/site/framednaproject/north-america FRAME / FREAME / FREMAULT DNA PROJECT RESEARCH NOTES] .
There is some evidence that Charles Clay, b 1638 may be the grandson of John Clay, the Immigrant. At least one Clay researcher believes that Charles Clay was the son of John Clay, son of John Clay, the Immigrant. Genealogy of VA Families VII 1981,
Some Notes on the Clay Family p 77-80,Contributed by the late Reverend Stephen O. Southall This is being researched further.
===Notable Descendants===
:[[Clay-233|Sen Henry Clay]] (1777-1852), 7th Speaker of the US House of Representatives
:[[Clay-254|Gov Clement Comer Clay]] (1789-1866), Governor of Alabama:[[Clay-11|Dr Charles Clay]] (1638-1686), Participant in Bacon's Rebellion, early Charles City Physician.
===DNA Matches===
*There is 8 segment auDNA match for a total segment size of 47.4 cM between kit T824570 (David Douglas) GEDCOM ID:1537834 and kit T783064 (*Ross) GEDCOM ID:6638451
=== Sources ===
:See also:
*[https://familysearch.org/photos/stories/14630668 Captain John Thomas Clay (born 1587)]
*Charles City County court orders, 1655-1658 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
*Charles City County court orders, 1655-1658. Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., 1961.
*Clay Family Source Information Colonial Families of the United States of America, Volume V [database on-line].
*Ancestor Lineages of Members Texas Society/National Society Colonial Dames Seventeenth Century [database on-line].
*Lineage of Members Source Information Lineages of Members of the National Society of Sons and Daughters of the Pilgrims, Vol. III [database on-line].
*Abstracts of Land Patents - Charles City County
*Foley, Louise Pledge Heath. Early Virginia Families Along the James River: Their Deep and Tangled Branches. Volume II (Charles City County-Prince George County, Virginia). Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2002.
*[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59356092 Find A Grave Memorial# 59356092 Created by: David Reese]
See (User gen):*[http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/o/a/t/David-Oates-MO/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0697.html John Thomas II Captain Clay/Claye (b. Abt. 1587, d. 07 Apr 1655)]
*[http://www.angelfire.com/la2/gen/clayfamily.html CLAY FAMILY OF VIRGINIA]
===Contributors===*This person was created on 06 August 2010 through the import of Lynch-Tree.ged.*Thank you to [[Bernard-815 | Teresa Abram]] for [http://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Clay-1180 creating] Clay-1180 on 20 Oct 13. * WikiTree profile Clay-710 created through the import of Cato Family Tree_book_EN.ged on Sep 21, 2011 by [[Cato-36 | Linda Cato]]. * WikiTree profile Clay-908 created through the import of Ehrbar Family Tree.ged on Oct 9, 2012 by [[Owens-1232 | Jeffery Owens]].* WikiTree profile Clay-591 created through the import of Travis Family Tree.ged on Jun 22, 2011 by [[Travis-185 | Roger Travis]]. *This person was created through the import of LaBach Family TreeApril28_2011.ged on 05 May 2011. *Thank you to [[Justice-637 | Linda Justice]] for creating WikiTree profile Clay-1022 through the import of Justice Family Tree.ged on Apr 30, 2013. C*information entered by [[Tindle-19 | Betty Tindle]], Wednesday, January 22, 2014. *Clay-1464 was created by [[Floyd-1283 | John Floyd]] through the import of James-W-Justice-ancestors.ged on Aug 30, 2014.
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== Biography ==
== Sources ==
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Constable
JOHN CLAY (Jr), b. ca 1624, probably Charles City Co., Va.; d. ca 1647 ['''SIC: after 1662'''] Charles City Co., Va.; md. ca 1644, probably Charles City. Co., Va. to ELIZABETH ___________, who survived him to md. (2) John Wall and (3) John Tate
To Mr. JNO. CLAY Cunstable to Execute (sic) & make Reutne Accordingly. Reocrd sept 3d 1662
In the Virginia Records is a "Deed of Gift", dated 3 October 1660, whereby John Wall conveyed 2 ewes to his "son-in-law" (step-son) Charles Clay; and at Westover Court, 1663, "ELIZABETH CLAY Wall", widow and Joseph Wall, son of John Wall, Dec’d., were authorized by Court to choose three or four persons from Martin’s Brandon to settle the estate of John Wall, according tot he provisions of his will. (Ref: Virginia County Records, Vol. II, pp 78 and 245, Congressional Library, Washington, D. C.).
From http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/clay.htm
Generation No. 5
JOHN5 CLAY (JOHN4, SIR JOHN3, JOHN "OF GLOUCHESTER"2, JOHN "OF DERBY"1) was born Abt 1624 in Charles City County, Va, and died Abt 1647 in Charles City County, Va. He married ELIZABETH Abt 1644 in Charles City County, Va. Children of JOHN CLAY and ELIZABETH are:
# CHARLES6 CLAY, b. 1645, Charles City County, Virginia; d. June 01, 1686, Henrico Co, VA.
# WILLILAM CLAY.
From http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/john_clay_&_elizabeth.htm
Genealogy of VA Families VII 1981 Some Notes on the Clay Family p 77-80 Contributed by the late Reverend Stephen O. Southall
On July 13, 1635, John Clay was granted, in Charles City County, 1200 acres bounding from the land granted to Capt. Francis Hooke, by the heads of Ward his creek; south east upon the creek; south west into the main land and north up the main river; 100 acres due the said John Clay as being an old planter at or before the government of Sir Thomas Dale; the other 1100 acres due unto him for the transporting of 22 other persons at his own cost. (Patent Book I, page 230)
Again, May 1, 1655, William Bayly was granted 400 acres in Charles City County at Ward’s Creek on lower Cross Creek, a part of a divident of 2000 acres granted to Capt. Francis Hooke and assigned to JOHN CLAY and John Frame, and by inheritance descended unto William Clay, a son of said JOHN CLAY, and by the said William Bayly purchased of said William Clay, the younger. (Patent Book 3, page 334)
These grants show the Clays lived in what is now Prince George County, which was taken from Charles City County (south of the James River) in 1702, and they lived between Ward’s Creek and Bailey’s Creek, just below the mouth of the Appomattox River. These grants are nearly all the data we have on the Clays in the public records and we must refer to some of the family records, and especially to General Green Clay’s account….
General Green Clay (born 1757, died 1828) says the father of Charles Clay (born 1638, died 1686) 1 was JOHN CLAY II, and grandson of the immigrant of John Clay. All the records which go back to John Clay agree with General Green Clay’s account….
Now what became of the 1200 acres granted to John Clay in July 1635? They are not mentioned again, at least for some hundred years after the grant. It seems to me that John Clay, the immigrant, must have died shortly after the grant was made to him in July 1635. He must have been over 50 years of age at the time of his death; and the early immigrants died like flies. And, I am almost sure that the JOHN CLAY who with John Frame received the assignment of 2000 acres from Captain Francis Hooke (as appears in patent to William Bayly in May 1655; see above) was the second JOHN CLAY.
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John Clay, Ancient Planter, landed at Jamestowne, VA in February 1613 and settled in Charles City County, Virginia. He paid for the importation of 32 people on the good ship 'West' which arrived July 13, 1635. He was granted 1200 acres of land 13 July 1675 at the head of Wards Creek. His wife, Anne Nichols arrived from England, 10 years later.
Captain John Clay, the "British Grenadier" (hired soldier in the King's army) arrived in the new world in February 1613 according to the muster on the 'Treasurer'. The Treasurer, sent to protect the settlers in Jamestowne, was commanded and partially owned by Captain Samuel Argall, who was a brother of Elizabeth Argall Filmer, ancestress of Martha & Lucy Green Clay (wife of Henry Clay 1711-1764). It is stated in his muster that he (John Clay) was a planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59356092
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John Clay, Ancient Planter, landed at Jamestowne, VA in February 1613 and settled in Charles City County, Virginia. He paid for the importation of 32 people on the good ship 'West' which arrived July 13, 1635. He was granted 1200 acres of land 13 July 1675 at the head of Wards Creek. His wife, Anne Nichols arrived from England, 10 years later.
Captain John Clay, the "British Grenadier" (hired soldier in the King's army) arrived in the new world in February 1613 according to the muster on the 'Treasurer'. The Treasurer, sent to protect the settlers in Jamestowne, was commanded and partially owned by Captain Samuel Argall, who was a brother of Elizabeth Argall Filmer, ancestress of Martha & Lucy Green Clay (wife of Henry Clay 1711-1764). It is stated in his muster that he (John Clay) was a planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale.
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[[Category: Ancient Planters of Virginia]]
[[Category: Jamestown, Virginia Colony]]
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== Biography ==
}John Clay (or Claye) is said to have been born about 1587/88 in Monmouth, Wales or England. Also said is that he died Apr. 7, 1655 - 60 in Charles City, Virginia. He was known (by later researchers) as Captain John Clay, "the English Grenadier" (hired soldier in the King's army). John was the earliest American ancestor of the Clay family to come to Virginia. [https://www.jstor.org/stable/4245272?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents "Some Notes on the Clay Family"], The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 52, No. 1 (Jan., 1944), pp. 59-62, Pub., Virginia Historical Society '''Note: Although researchers have long indicated Monmouth as being the birthplace of John Clay there is no evidence that has been presented that proves this assertion, This may have been an attempt to connect him to a Sir John Clay, the "Coal Baron" of Wales, however, there is no evidence of the existence of the "Coal Baron". Other researchers have said John Clay was born in England and give as evidence that he may have been an English hired soldier which would lend some weight to that conclusion, However, the simple truth is that the birth date and place of John Clay is unknown as are his parents identity.''' Rev Southall in his "Notes on the Clay Family" estimates that John Clay may have been at least 35 years old at the time he arrived in Virginia, which would make his date of birth closer to 1578, almost 10 years earlier than the traditional 1587 date. His exact date of death is also unknown but would have been after the birth of youngest son, Charles who was born c 1638-45.
=== Disputed Middle Name ===
The is no evidence that supports the assertion that John Clay had a middle name. From an address to the membership of The Jamestown Society on May 6, 1995, well respected Clay archivist, historian, and researcher, [http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tnsmith/obits/clay_robert_young_obit.htm Robert Young Clay (1932-2010)] had the following to say in this regard, " —His name was simply John Clay – not John Thomas Clay. The middle name was added by a researcher in this century when he transcribed the signature by the mark of a John Clay of Isle of Wight County, written “John I Clay”, as “John T Clay.” He decided the misread letter must stand for Thomas and that it was the signature of John Clay the Immigrant, thereby creating John Thomas Clay. The “I” of course was merely an old form of “J” – his mark for John. Middle names were then almost unknown, but for the occasional “alias” double name, which almost always indicated bastardy. [http://www.clayfamilysociety.org/ui38.htm John Clay - Fact and Fiction] Simply put, the middle name is likely an error caused by a transcription error. There are no verifiable source documents or solid evidence that supports a middle name for John Clay, '''Based on the available evidence that the name "Thomas" is the result of a probable transcription error made by a previous Clay family researcher the middle name Thomas has been removed. If future research provides support for a middle name the sources and name will be added.'''
=== Disputed Parents ===
:'''Questionable Parental Relationships'''
John Clay is said to have been the son of [[Clay-2733 | John Thomas Clay]] and [[Bridge-854 |Mary Ann (Carlton) Clay]]. Although found in many online Clay family trees ]these parental associations are speculative and not supported by the facts. Very little is actually known of John Clay prior to his immigration in 1613. . Refer to [http://www.clayfamilysociety.org/ui38.htm John Clay - Fact and Fiction] an address to the Jamestowne Society, May 6, 1995, by the late Robert Young Clay, (4 September 1936-6 May 2010) a Clay descendant, also a renowned Clay researcher and speaker, Archivist for the Library of Virginia, and artist. The identity of John Clay's parents is not currently known.
:'''Existing Evidence'''
In Crich Parish, Derbyshire, England, which consists of the villages of Crich, Fritchley and Whatstandwell. there is a [http://www.crichparish.co.uk/webpages/plaque44.html memorial] to John Clay, inside St Mary's Church that includes inscriptions to his two wives and five children, The web posting includes the following information: "This monument to the Clays appears to have been erected to the memory of John Clay, Esq. who died in 1632, and Mary, his first wife, daughter of William Calton, of Calton, Esq. Chief Cock Matcher and Servant of the Hawks to Henry VIII. and widow of ...... Charnels, of Snareston, Esq. She died in 1583: his second wife was the widow of German Pole, Esq. and daughter of Edward Ferrers, of Tamworth, Esq." [http://www.crichparish.co.uk/webpages/plaque44.html Burial Monument to John Clay and Mary (Calton) Clay], St. Mary;s Church, Crich Parish, England, (citing Stephen Glover, The History of the county of Derby) The monument lists three daughters, and two sons of John Clay, which are William and Theophilus. John Clay Esq died abt 1632, Mary (Calton) Clay died in 1583, four years before the John Clay of this profile was born (c 1587) and whose name is conspicuously absent from the monument. Based on this evidence [[Clay-2733|John Clay]] and [[Bridge-854|Mary Ca(r)lton Clay]] were detached as parents of John Clay (1587-1655). [https://books.google.com/books?id=9gQVAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA321&lpg=PA321&dq=William+Calton,+of+Calton,+esq&source=bl&ots=9R8jNQKojK&sig=cJglku77vqIGpxqqbWnwdMKtp9c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjP_ePlyI_aAhUBF2MKHQkxB8MQ6AEIRDAF#v=onepage&q=William%20Calton%2C%20of%20Calton%2C%20esq&f=false The history of the county of Derby], ed. by T. Noble, Volume 2, Stephen Glover, 1829 (refer to the notes on page 321)
=== Immigration ===John Clay, an [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_planter ancient planter], came to Virginia in 1613 and his wife Ann in 1623. [http://www.virtualjamestown.org/Muster/muster24.html Jamestown 1624/5 Muster Records] (Claye), Virtual Jamestown:
He patented lands in 1635 on Ward's creek, in what is now Prince George county. Patent Book I, page 230 [http://vagenweb.org/tylers_bios/vol1-20.htm#bottom Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, page 212]
He arrived in Jamestown with his two younger brothers in the 'TREASURER", Feb of 1613 according to the muster on the 'Treasurer'. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s,p 67. [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010. Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012.< http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pili354&h=4118014&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt> The Treasurer, sent to protect the settlers in Jamestowne, was commanded and partially owned by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Argall|Captain Samuel Argall], who was a brother of [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59757079 Elizabeth Argall Filmer], ancestress of [[Green-1725|Martha]] & [[Green-1726|Lucy Green Clay]] (wife of [[Clay-378|Henry Clay 1711-1764]]). The First Republic in America" by Alexander Brown, pg 282
=== Ancient Planter ===It is stated in his muster that he (John Clay) was a planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale. Kinard, June. comp., Early Immigrants to Virginia from the 1500s and 1600s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data Published by The Researchers, PO box 39063, Indianapolis IN. 46239-0063.
=== Marriage ===The long-held traditional story is that John married (1st) Ann (1613) in London, England. This idea was first presented by Mary Rogers Clay, "The Clay Family", Ref: "Notes on the Clay Family", Stephen O Southall Some have said her maiden name was Nichols, however, all that is known for certain is that her given name was Anne.
It has long been held that John had married Ann before leaving England and left his wife behind when he said for Virginia in 1612/13. Ann later arrived on the "ANN", August 1623. John Camden Hotten: London, 1874. Reprint by Empire State Book Co., New York. , citing Jamestown Muster 1624/25 [http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/jamestown/census/jameship.txt THE CENSUS OF VIRGINIA IN 1624; Ann Claye, wife of John Claye] Researcher Robert Young Clay, (4 September 1936-6 May 2010), renowned Clay researcher and speaker, in an 1995 address to the Jamestown Society said, ''Researchers seem now agreed that his marriage to Ann likely took place here rather than in England. She is assumed to be the mother of John’s son William. At some later date, John married a second wife, Elizabeth, whose surname is also unknown, who was the mother of Charles. After John Clay’s death, Elizabeth his widow married a close neighbor, Captain John Wall, and after Wall’s death, she married John Tate.'' [http://www.clayfamilysociety.org/ui38.htm ''John Clay, Fact or Fiction'', Robert Young Clay, Jamestown Society, May 6, 1995 That Elizabeth was the mother of Charles Clay is proven by a deed of gift of two ewe lambs from Captain Wall to his “sonne in law Charles Clay,” 3 October 1660. Elizabeth Clay Wall is the subject of several depositions in 1662 when the was involved in a brawl with an Indian servant who hit her, bit her and tried to force her head into an “oven then red hot & ready for bread to be set therein.”In 1624 they were living in Charles City, Virginia, along the banks of the James River where John had been granted 1200 acres in the County, beginning at the lands granted by order of Court to Francis Hooke, up to the head of Wards, his creek, and bounded on the north by the James River. Due 100 acres to him as an old planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale, and the other 1100 for the transportation of 21 persons by the "west"., July 13, 1635. These lands granted John were near the present City Point, only a few miles from what is now Chesterfield County, and no other settler of the name is mentioned in any record in this section. Richmond Critic, 1888
After Anne died between 1638-1645, John married (2nd) Elizabeth _____. Her maiden name is sometimes said to be Frame, however, this is not certain. Note: John Clay descendant, David Douglas, has auDNA matches with several testers bearing the Frame surname.
=== Children ===
:The children of John Clay and Ann ______ are said to be:
#Thomas Clay [https://archive.org/stream/clayfamily00smit/clayfamily00smit_djvu.txt "The Clay Family" (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay] Now believed to have been included as a child in error.#Francis Clay Now believed to have been included as a child in error.
#[[Clay-340|William Clay]]
#[[Clay-340|Anne Clay]], b, abt. 1610, m John Frame (1608-1655)
#[[Clay-1179|John Clay]], b abt. 1624
:The children of John Clay and Elizabeth ______ are said to be:
#[[Clay-11|Charles Clay]], b abt. 1638 Now believed to be the son of John Clay and (2nd) wife Elizabeth ____.
===Uncertain Children===The list of children for John Clay was compiled from several sources and it may contain errors. It is based on the work of many researchers of the Clay Family and has been reproduced in many online Clay family trees. Additionally, there are several published books and articles along with the dozens of online accounts of the children of John Clay. Each one seems to contain different and sometimes confusing accounts or listings of his children. Where they do seem to agree most often is on William and John, who are found in the colonial property records of Virginia, each having land nearby their father. [http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/john_clay_&_elizabeth.htm John Clay & Elizabeth] We will examine these different accounts, try to determine the verifiable facts, and discover if possible, the sources of this information, and finally attempt to separate fact from error.
:'''Rev Stephen O Southall - Genealogist'''
The late Reverend Stephen O. Southall, a genealogist with 50 years of research into colonial Virginia records in his "Notes on the Clay Family", in regards to the children of John Clay, the immigrant wrote :
:"In her excellent book entitled The Clay Family (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay states (pages 65-66) that John Clay, the emigrant, had four (4) sons, naming as two (2) of them Francis Clay of Northumberland county and Thomas Clay, one of the fourteen persons "who did unlawfully assemble at ye p���ish church of Lawnes Creek [Surry County] with intent to declare they would not pay their publiq taxes…"
: "This is certainly an error and as I was partly the cause of the error, I wish to correct it, and give as far as I can, the true history, though the facts are meager. When Mrs. Clay asked me for the names of the Clays in Virginia, I gave her the names of '''Francis Clay''' and '''Thomas Clay'''; but failed to tell her that they were not descended from John Clay, the emigrant".
This statement from the Reverend Stephen O. Southall indicates that Francis and Thomas Clay were mistakenly identified as sons of John Clay, the immigrant. The work of Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay, "The Clay Family" was published in 1899 and for more than 100 years has been cited as a primary reference regarding Capt John Clay and his descendants. [https://archive.org/stream/clayfamily00smit/clayfamily00smit_djvu.txt "The Clay Family" (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay] [http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/john_clay_&_elizabeth.htm Genealogy of VA Families VII 1981,Some Notes on the Clay Family p 77-80],Contributed by the late Reverend Stephen O. Southall
:'''Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay - Genealogist'''
From her book, "The Clay Family" we read the following regarding the children of John Clay, the Immigrant :
: "The children of Captain John and Ann Clay, so far as known, were :
: I. '''Francis Clay''', whose name appears on the records of Northumberland County, Virginia, from October 19, 1652, in the grants of lands, until June 8, 1658, and in Westmoreland County on May 21, 1666.
:II.'''William Clay'''. In 1655 William Bayley had a patent for four hundred acres of land on Ward's Creek, purchased of William Clay, son of John Clay, assignee of Francis Hooke, patentee of 1637.
: III. '''Thomas Clay''', one of fourteen persons "who did unlawfully Assemble at ye pish church o Lawnes Creeke, with Intent to declare they would not pay theire publiq taxes, & yt they expected diverse others to meet them. ( Surry Co., 3rd J any Ao. Dom. 1673.)" (William and Mary Quarterly Magazine.) 2.
: IV. '''Charles Clay''', born 1638, died 1686 (intestate). He married Hannah Wilson, daughter of John Wilson, senior, of Henrico County, Virginia, and states in Court, April 1686, that he has received his wife's part of her father's estate. ( 1688- 1697, page 360.)"
We have already learned that Francis Clay and Thomas Clay were included in this 1899 genealogy as children of John Clay by Mrs. Clay based on statements made by Reverend Stephen O. Southall, an error which he later corrected. We could examine this question in depth with a further exploration of primary records, however since we know the source of the misinformation, and that the author of that information published a correction of the erroneous application of that information we will accept his correction as sufficient evidence that Francis Clay and Thomas Clay were not the sons of John Clay, the Immigrant.
This leaves us with William, John, Charles, and Anne as possible children. We will look at Anne first. This is what we find. John FRAME A militia Captain who came to Va in 1622 Emigrates to Virginia in 1622 (Book I) on the ship Southampton, indentured to Captain John Harvey. He was born in 1607/8 at England. He married Ann Clay ? in 1629/30. He married Mary LAWRENCE (2257) in 1653/54. He died onDec 17, 1655, at Charles City Co., Va. Ann Clay ? was born in 1610. She married John FRAME, son of John FRAME, in 1629/30. She died in 1649/50 at Charles City Co., Va. [http://www.ghotes.net/PDF%20Files/Ahnentafel-Eva%20Virginia%20Justis.PDF Ahnentafel of Eva Virginia JUSTIS (1806)] This comes from an unsourced ancestor table. It is noted that Ann Clay is not found in the work of Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay as a child of John Clay. There is a John Frame mentioned in several land transactions in Charles County. He evidently lived near John Clay (possibly John Clay Jr). The record states, August 23, 1643, John Wall patented 1790 acres on Chippoakes Creek, between John Hooke and William Pilkington, adjacent John Clay and John Freme. One William Bailey patented 400 acres of land in Charles City, May 1, 1655, "part of a dividend of 200 acres granted Captain Francis Hooke, 26, October 1637 and assigned to John Clay and John Freme and by inheritance descended unto William Clay son of said John and by William Bailey purchased of said William Clay, the younger." It seems safe to say that since there was a William Clay, the younger, there would be an older William Clay. This would seem to support the existence of both sons, John and William Clay. Captain John Frame is indicated in genealogical histories and family trees as having married twice, first to an Anne, her maiden name, which is usually given as Clay is unproved. [https://sites.google.com/site/framednaproject/north-america FRAME / FREAME / FREMAULT DNA PROJECT RESEARCH NOTES] .
There is one researcher that thinks Charles Clay, b 1638 may be the grandson of John Clay, the Immigrant. and the son of John Clay Jr, Genealogy of VA Families VII 1981, Some Notes on the Clay Family p 77-80, Contributed by the late Reverend Stephen O. Southall The current belief, however, is that Charles born between 1638-1645 was actually the son of John Clay Sr and Elizabeth, his 2nd wife.
===Notable Descendants===:[[Clay-233|Sen Henry Clay]] (1777-1852), 7th Speaker of the US House of Representatives
:[[Clay-254|Gov Clement Comer Clay]] (1789-1866), Governor of Alabama:[[Clay-11|Dr Charles Clay]] (1638-1686), Participant in Bacon's Rebellion, early Charles City Physician.
:[[Clay-381|Abia Clay]] (1747-1791), Revolutionary War Soldier
== Sources ==
See also:*[https://familysearch.org/photos/stories/14630668 Captain John Thomas Clay (born 1587)]*[https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=29391 Charles City County court orders, 1655-1658] [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. *Charles City County court orders, 1655-1658. Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., 1961.*Clay Family Source Information Colonial Families of the United States of America, Volume V [database on-line].*Ancestor Lineages of Members Texas Society/National Society Colonial Dames Seventeenth Century [database on-line]. *Lineage of Members Source Information Lineages of Members of the National Society of Sons and Daughters of the Pilgrims, Vol. III [database on-line].
*Abstracts of Land Patents - Charles City County *[https://books.google.com/books?id=kThnhkqD0iMC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb#v=onepage&q&f=false Foley, Louise Pledge Heath. Early Virginia Families Along the James River: Their Deep and Tangled Branches]. Volume II (Charles City County-Prince George County, Virginia). Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2002.*[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59356092 Find A Grave Memorial# 59356092 Created by: David Reese]*[http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/o/a/t/David-Oates-MO/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0697.html John Thomas II Captain Clay/Claye (b. Abt. 1587, d. 07 Apr 1655)]*[http://www.angelfire.com/la2/gen/clayfamily.html CLAY FAMILY OF VIRGINIA]*"England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XKDQ-ZYC : 18 July 2017), John Clay, 15 Dec 1558, Christening; citing , Epping, Essex, England, Essex Record Office, England; FHL microfilm 571,180.*[https://archive.org/stream/clayfamily00smit#page/n77/mode/2up/search/John+Thomas+Clay The Clay Family by Smith, Z. F.]*See his profile at [https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/5394487/person/282779760/facts/ Ancestry.com]
[[Category: Jamestown, Virginia]]
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== Biography ==
John Thomas Clay was born about 1587/88 in Monmouth, Wales. He died Apr. 7, 1655 - 60 in Charles City, Virginia.Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Deaths [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001. He was known as Captain John Clay, "the English Grenadier" (hired soldier in the King's army) .John was the earliest American ancestor of the Clay family to come to Virginia. [https://www.jstor.org/stable/4245272?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents "Some Notes on the Clay Family"], The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography,Vol. 52, No. 1 (Jan., 1944), pp. 59-62, Pub., Virginia Historical Society
==Disputed Parents==
John Clay is said to have been the son of [[Clay-1013|Sir John Thomas Clay]] and Mary Ann (Carlton) Clay. This however, is speculative and to date not supported by any provable facts. Very little is actually known of John Clay prior to his immigration in 1613. Circumstantial evidence indicates he may have been an English soldier aboard the "Treasurer" but this is also unproved as are his parents and attempts to connect him to "noble" ancestors. Refer to [http://www.clayfamilysociety.org/ui38.htm John Clay - Fact and Fiction] an address to the Jamestowne Society, May 6, 1995 by the late Robert Young Clay, (4 September 1936-6 May 2010) a Clay descendant, also a renowned Clay researcher and speaker, Archivist for the Library of Virginia, and artist.
== Immigration ==John Clay, an [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_planter ancient planter], came to Virginia in 1613 and his wife Ann in 1623. He patented lands in 1635 on Ward's creek, in what is now Prince George county. [http://vagenweb.org/tylers_bios/vol1-20.htm#bottom Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, page 212]
He arrived in Jamestown with his two younger brothers in the 'TREASURER", Feb of 1613 according to the muster on the 'Treasurer'. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s,p 67. [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010. Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012.< http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pili354&h=4118014&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt> The Treasurer, sent to protect the settlers in Jamestowne, was commanded and partially owned by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Argall|Captain Samuel Argall], who was a brother of [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59757079 Elizabeth Argall Filmer], ancestress of [[Green-1725|Martha]] & [[Green-1726|Lucy Green Clay]] (wife of [[Clay-378|Henry Clay 1711-1764]]). The First Republic in America" by Alexander Brown, pg 282
== Ancient Planter ==
It is stated in his muster that he (John Clay) was a planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale. Kinard, June. comp., Early Immigrants to Virginia from the 1500s and 1600s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data Published by The Researchers, PO box 39063, Indianapolis IN. 46239-0063.
== Marriage ==
John married (1st) Anne. Some have said her maiden name was Nichols, however all that is known for certain is that her given name was Anne.
John had married before leaving England and left his wife Anne behind. She arrived on the 'ANN", August 1623. John Camden Hotten: London, 1874. Reprint by Empire State Book Co., New York. [http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/jamestown/census/jameship.txt THE CENSUS OF VIRGINIA IN 1624; Ann Claye, wife of John Claye] In 1624 they were living in Charles City, Virginia, along the banks of the James River where John had been granted 1200 acres in the County, beginning at the lands granted by order of Court to Francis Hooke, up to the head of Wards, his creek, and bounded on the north by the James River. Due 100 acres to him as an old planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale, and the other 1100 for the transportation of 21 persons by the "west"., July 13, 1635. These lands granted John were near the present City Point, only a few miles from what is now Chesterfield County, and no other settler of the name is mentioned in any record in this section. Richmond Critic, 1888
After Anne died about 1645, John married (2nd) Elizabeth. Her maiden name is said to be Frame, however this is not certain. (Note: John Clay descendant, David Douglas, has YDNA and auDNA matches with several testers bearing the Frame surname.)
== Children ==#Thomas Clay [https://archive.org/stream/clayfamily00smit/clayfamily00smit_djvu.txt "The Clay Family" (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay]
#Francis Clay Ibid
#[[Clay-340|William Clay]] Ibid
#[[Clay-340|Anne Clay]], b, abt. 1610, m John Frame (1608-1655)
#[[Clay-1179|John Clay]], b abt. 1624
#[[Clay-11|Charles Clay]], b abt. 1638 Ibid
==Uncertain Children==The list of children for John Clay was compiled from several sources and it may contain errors. It is based on the work of many researchers of the Clay Family and has been reproduced in many online Clay family trees. Additionally, there are several published books and articles along with the dozens of online accounts of the children of John Clay. Each one seems to contain different and sometimes confusing accounts or listings of his children. Where they do seem to agree most often is on WIlliam and John, who are found in the colonial property records of Virginia, each having land nearby their father. [http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/john_clay_&_elizabeth.htm John Clay & Elizabeth] We will examine these different accounts, try to determine the verifiable facts, and discover if possible, the sources of this information, and finally attempt to separate fact from error. Each of the listed children of John Clay will be examined with the hope of proving or disproving their parent/child relationship through the discovery and presentation of supporting documentation and solid evidence. Given that primary evidence may be scarce or no longer exist we may be left to examine the circumstantial evidence and "leap of faith" that led researchers to make their conclusion. After examination of the logic and validity of such conclusions it will be left to the reader to draw their own conclusions as to accuracy.
The late Reverend Stephen O. Southall, a genealogist with 50 years of research into colonial Virginia records in his "Notes on the Clay Family", in regards to the children of John Clay, the immigrant wrote :
:"In her excellent book entitled The Clay Family (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay states (pages 65-66) that John Clay, the emigrant, had four (4) sons, naming as two (2) of them Francis Clay of Northumberland county and Thomas Clay, one of the fourteen persons "who did unlawfully assemble at ye p���ish church of Lawnes Creek [Surry County] with intent to declare they would not pay their publiq taxes…"
:"This is certainly an error and as I was partly the cause of the error, I wish to correct it, and give as far as I can, the true history, though the facts are meagre. When Mrs. Clay asked me for the names of the Clays in Virginia, I gave her the names of '''Francis Clay''' and '''Thomas Clay'''; but failed to tell her that they were not descended from John Clay, the emigrant".
This statement from the Reverend Stephen O. Southall indicates that Francis and Thomas Clay were mistakenly identified as sons of John Clay, the immigrant. The work of Mrs Mary Rogers Clay, "The Clay Family" was published in 1899 and for more than 100 years has been cited as a primary reference regarding Capt John Clay and his descendants. [https://archive.org/stream/clayfamily00smit/clayfamily00smit_djvu.txt "The Clay Family" (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay] [http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/john_clay_&_elizabeth.htm Genealogy of VA Families VII 1981,Some Notes on the Clay Family p 77-80],Contributed by the late Reverend Stephen O. Southall
From her book, "The Clay Family" we read the following regarding the children of John Clay, the Immigrant :
:"The children of Captain John and Ann Clay, so far as known, were :
:I. '''Francis Clay''', whose name appears on the records of Northumberland County, Virginia, from October 19, 1652, in the grants of lands, until June 8, 1658, and in Westmoreland County on May 21, 1666.
:II.'''William Clay'''. In 1655 William Bayley had a patent for four hundred acres of land on Ward's Creek, purchased of William Clay, son of John Clay, assignee of Francis Hooke, patentee of 1637.
:III. '''Thomas Clay''', one of fourteen persons "who did unlawfully Assemble at ye pish church o Lawnes Creeke, with Intent to declare they would not pay theire publiq taxes, & yt they expected diverse others to meet them. ( Surry Co., 3rd J any Ao. Dom. 1673.)" (William and Mary Quarterly Magazine.) 2.
:IV. '''Charles Clay''', born 1638, died 1686 (intestate). He married Hannah Wilson, daughter of John Wilson, senior, of Henrico County, Virginia, and states in Court, April, 1686, that he has received his wife's part of her father's estate. ( 1688- 1697, page 360.)"
We have already learned that Francis Clay and Thomas Clay were included in this 1899 genealogy as children of John Clay by Mrs Clay based on statements made by Reverend Stephen O. Southall, an error which he later corrected. We could examine this question in depth with a further exploration of primary records, however since we know the source of the misinformation, and that the author of that information published a correction of the erroneous application of that information we will accept his correction as sufficient evidence that '''Francis Clay and Thomas Clay were not the sons of John Clay, the Immigrant.'''
This leaves us with William, John, Charles and Anne as possible children. We will look at Anne first. This is what we find. John FRAME A militia Captain who came to Va in 1622 Emigrates to Virginia in 1622 (Book I) on the ship Southampton, indentured to Captain John Harvey. He was born in 1607/8 at England. He married Ann Clay ? in 1629/30. He married Mary LAWRENCE (2257) in 1653/54. He died onDec 17, 1655 at Charles City Co., Va. Ann Clay ? was born in 1610. She married John FRAME , son of John FRAME , in 1629/30. She died in 1649/50 at Charles City Co., Va. [http://www.ghotes.net/PDF%20Files/Ahnentafel-Eva%20Virginia%20Justis.PDF Ahnentafel of Eva Virginia JUSTIS (1806)] This comes from an unsourced ancestor table. It is noted that Ann Clay is not found in the work of Mrs Mary Rogers Clay as a child of John Clay. There is a John Frame mentioned in several land transactions in Charles County. He evidently lived near John Clay (possibly John Clay Jr). The record states, August 23, 1643, John Wall patented 1790 acres on Chippoakes Creek, between John Hooke and William Pilkington, adjacent John Clay and John Freme. One William Bailey patented 400 acres of land in Charles City, May 1, 1655, "part of a dividend of 200 acres granted Captain Francis Hooke, 26, October 1637 and assigned to John Clay and John Freme and by inheritance descended unto William Clay son of said John and by William Bailey purchased of said William Clay, the younger." It seems safe to say that since there was a William Clay, the younger, there would be an older William Clay. This would seem to support the existence of both sons, John and William Clay. Captain John Frame is indicated in genealogical histories and family trees as having married twice, first to an Anne, her maiden name, which is usually given as Clay is unproved and not known. [https://sites.google.com/site/framednaproject/north-america FRAME / FREAME / FREMAULT DNA PROJECT RESEARCH NOTES] .
There is some evidence that Charles Clay, b 1638 may be the grandson of John Clay, the Immigrant. At least one Clay researcher believes that Charles Clay was the son of John Clay, son of John Clay, the Immigrant. Genealogy of VA Families VII 1981,
Some Notes on the Clay Family p 77-80,Contributed by the late Reverend Stephen O. Southall This is being researched further.
===Notable Descendants===
:[[Clay-233|Sen Henry Clay]] (1777-1852), 7th Speaker of the US House of Representatives
:[[Clay-254|Gov Clement Comer Clay]] (1789-1866), Governor of Alabama:[[Clay-11|Dr Charles Clay]] (1638-1686), Participant in Bacon's Rebellion, early Charles City Physician.
===DNA Matches===
*There is 8 segment auDNA match for a total segment size of 47.4 cM between kit T824570 (David Douglas) GEDCOM ID:1537834 and kit T783064 (*Ross) GEDCOM ID:6638451
=== Sources ===
:See also:
*[https://familysearch.org/photos/stories/14630668 Captain John Thomas Clay (born 1587)]
*Charles City County court orders, 1655-1658 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
*Charles City County court orders, 1655-1658. Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., 1961.
*Clay Family Source Information Colonial Families of the United States of America, Volume V [database on-line].
*Ancestor Lineages of Members Texas Society/National Society Colonial Dames Seventeenth Century [database on-line].
*Lineage of Members Source Information Lineages of Members of the National Society of Sons and Daughters of the Pilgrims, Vol. III [database on-line].
*Abstracts of Land Patents - Charles City County
*Foley, Louise Pledge Heath. Early Virginia Families Along the James River: Their Deep and Tangled Branches. Volume II (Charles City County-Prince George County, Virginia). Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2002.
*[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59356092 Find A Grave Memorial# 59356092 Created by: David Reese]
See (User gen):*[http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/o/a/t/David-Oates-MO/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0697.html John Thomas II Captain Clay/Claye (b. Abt. 1587, d. 07 Apr 1655)]
*[http://www.angelfire.com/la2/gen/clayfamily.html CLAY FAMILY OF VIRGINIA]
===Contributors===*This person was created on 06 August 2010 through the import of Lynch-Tree.ged.*Thank you to [[Bernard-815 | Teresa Abram]] for [http://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Clay-1180 creating] Clay-1180 on 20 Oct 13. * WikiTree profile Clay-710 created through the import of Cato Family Tree_book_EN.ged on Sep 21, 2011 by [[Cato-36 | Linda Cato]]. * WikiTree profile Clay-908 created through the import of Ehrbar Family Tree.ged on Oct 9, 2012 by [[Owens-1232 | Jeffery Owens]].* WikiTree profile Clay-591 created through the import of Travis Family Tree.ged on Jun 22, 2011 by [[Travis-185 | Roger Travis]]. *This person was created through the import of LaBach Family TreeApril28_2011.ged on 05 May 2011. *Thank you to [[Justice-637 | Linda Justice]] for creating WikiTree profile Clay-1022 through the import of Justice Family Tree.ged on Apr 30, 2013. C*information entered by [[Tindle-19 | Betty Tindle]], Wednesday, January 22, 2014. *Clay-1464 was created by [[Floyd-1283 | John Floyd]] through the import of James-W-Justice-ancestors.ged on Aug 30, 2014.
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== Biography ==
== Sources ==
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Constable
JOHN CLAY (Jr), b. ca 1624, probably Charles City Co., Va.; d. ca 1647 ['''SIC: after 1662'''] Charles City Co., Va.; md. ca 1644, probably Charles City. Co., Va. to ELIZABETH ___________, who survived him to md. (2) John Wall and (3) John Tate
To Mr. JNO. CLAY Cunstable to Execute (sic) & make Reutne Accordingly. Reocrd sept 3d 1662
In the Virginia Records is a "Deed of Gift", dated 3 October 1660, whereby John Wall conveyed 2 ewes to his "son-in-law" (step-son) Charles Clay; and at Westover Court, 1663, "ELIZABETH CLAY Wall", widow and Joseph Wall, son of John Wall, Dec’d., were authorized by Court to choose three or four persons from Martin’s Brandon to settle the estate of John Wall, according tot he provisions of his will. (Ref: Virginia County Records, Vol. II, pp 78 and 245, Congressional Library, Washington, D. C.).
From http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/clay.htm
Generation No. 5
JOHN5 CLAY (JOHN4, SIR JOHN3, JOHN "OF GLOUCHESTER"2, JOHN "OF DERBY"1) was born Abt 1624 in Charles City County, Va, and died Abt 1647 in Charles City County, Va. He married ELIZABETH Abt 1644 in Charles City County, Va. Children of JOHN CLAY and ELIZABETH are:
# CHARLES6 CLAY, b. 1645, Charles City County, Virginia; d. June 01, 1686, Henrico Co, VA.
# WILLILAM CLAY.
From http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/john_clay_&_elizabeth.htm
Genealogy of VA Families VII 1981 Some Notes on the Clay Family p 77-80 Contributed by the late Reverend Stephen O. Southall
On July 13, 1635, John Clay was granted, in Charles City County, 1200 acres bounding from the land granted to Capt. Francis Hooke, by the heads of Ward his creek; south east upon the creek; south west into the main land and north up the main river; 100 acres due the said John Clay as being an old planter at or before the government of Sir Thomas Dale; the other 1100 acres due unto him for the transporting of 22 other persons at his own cost. (Patent Book I, page 230)
Again, May 1, 1655, William Bayly was granted 400 acres in Charles City County at Ward’s Creek on lower Cross Creek, a part of a divident of 2000 acres granted to Capt. Francis Hooke and assigned to JOHN CLAY and John Frame, and by inheritance descended unto William Clay, a son of said JOHN CLAY, and by the said William Bayly purchased of said William Clay, the younger. (Patent Book 3, page 334)
These grants show the Clays lived in what is now Prince George County, which was taken from Charles City County (south of the James River) in 1702, and they lived between Ward’s Creek and Bailey’s Creek, just below the mouth of the Appomattox River. These grants are nearly all the data we have on the Clays in the public records and we must refer to some of the family records, and especially to General Green Clay’s account….
General Green Clay (born 1757, died 1828) says the father of Charles Clay (born 1638, died 1686) 1 was JOHN CLAY II, and grandson of the immigrant of John Clay. All the records which go back to John Clay agree with General Green Clay’s account….
Now what became of the 1200 acres granted to John Clay in July 1635? They are not mentioned again, at least for some hundred years after the grant. It seems to me that John Clay, the immigrant, must have died shortly after the grant was made to him in July 1635. He must have been over 50 years of age at the time of his death; and the early immigrants died like flies. And, I am almost sure that the JOHN CLAY who with John Frame received the assignment of 2000 acres from Captain Francis Hooke (as appears in patent to William Bayly in May 1655; see above) was the second JOHN CLAY.
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John Clay, Ancient Planter, landed at Jamestowne, VA in February 1613 and settled in Charles City County, Virginia. He paid for the importation of 32 people on the good ship 'West' which arrived July 13, 1635. He was granted 1200 acres of land 13 July 1675 at the head of Wards Creek. His wife, Anne Nichols arrived from England, 10 years later.
Captain John Clay, the "British Grenadier" (hired soldier in the King's army) arrived in the new world in February 1613 according to the muster on the 'Treasurer'. The Treasurer, sent to protect the settlers in Jamestowne, was commanded and partially owned by Captain Samuel Argall, who was a brother of Elizabeth Argall Filmer, ancestress of Martha & Lucy Green Clay (wife of Henry Clay 1711-1764). It is stated in his muster that he (John Clay) was a planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale.
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John Clay, Ancient Planter, landed at Jamestowne, VA in February 1613 and settled in Charles City County, Virginia. He paid for the importation of 32 people on the good ship 'West' which arrived July 13, 1635. He was granted 1200 acres of land 13 July 1675 at the head of Wards Creek. His wife, Anne Nichols arrived from England, 10 years later.
Captain John Clay, the "British Grenadier" (hired soldier in the King's army) arrived in the new world in February 1613 according to the muster on the 'Treasurer'. The Treasurer, sent to protect the settlers in Jamestowne, was commanded and partially owned by Captain Samuel Argall, who was a brother of Elizabeth Argall Filmer, ancestress of Martha & Lucy Green Clay (wife of Henry Clay 1711-1764). It is stated in his muster that he (John Clay) was a planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale.
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== Biography ==
}John Clay (or Claye) is said to have been born about 1587/88 in Monmouth, Wales or England. Also said is that he died Apr. 7, 1655 - 60 in Charles City, Virginia. He was known (by later researchers) as Captain John Clay, "the English Grenadier" (hired soldier in the King's army). John was the earliest American ancestor of the Clay family to come to Virginia. [https://www.jstor.org/stable/4245272?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents "Some Notes on the Clay Family"], The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 52, No. 1 (Jan., 1944), pp. 59-62, Pub., Virginia Historical Society '''Note: Although researchers have long indicated Monmouth as being the birthplace of John Clay there is no evidence that has been presented that proves this assertion, This may have been an attempt to connect him to a Sir John Clay, the "Coal Baron" of Wales, however, there is no evidence of the existence of the "Coal Baron". Other researchers have said John Clay was born in England and give as evidence that he may have been an English hired soldier which would lend some weight to that conclusion, However, the simple truth is that the birth date and place of John Clay is unknown as are his parents identity.''' Rev Southall in his "Notes on the Clay Family" estimates that John Clay may have been at least 35 years old at the time he arrived in Virginia, which would make his date of birth closer to 1578, almost 10 years earlier than the traditional 1587 date. His exact date of death is also unknown but would have been after the birth of youngest son, Charles who was born c 1638-45.
=== Disputed Middle Name ===
The is no evidence that supports the assertion that John Clay had a middle name. From an address to the membership of The Jamestown Society on May 6, 1995, well respected Clay archivist, historian, and researcher, [http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tnsmith/obits/clay_robert_young_obit.htm Robert Young Clay (1932-2010)] had the following to say in this regard, " —His name was simply John Clay – not John Thomas Clay. The middle name was added by a researcher in this century when he transcribed the signature by the mark of a John Clay of Isle of Wight County, written “John I Clay”, as “John T Clay.” He decided the misread letter must stand for Thomas and that it was the signature of John Clay the Immigrant, thereby creating John Thomas Clay. The “I” of course was merely an old form of “J” – his mark for John. Middle names were then almost unknown, but for the occasional “alias” double name, which almost always indicated bastardy. [http://www.clayfamilysociety.org/ui38.htm John Clay - Fact and Fiction] Simply put, the middle name is likely an error caused by a transcription error. There are no verifiable source documents or solid evidence that supports a middle name for John Clay, '''Based on the available evidence that the name "Thomas" is the result of a probable transcription error made by a previous Clay family researcher the middle name Thomas has been removed. If future research provides support for a middle name the sources and name will be added.'''
=== Disputed Parents ===
:'''Questionable Parental Relationships'''
John Clay is said to have been the son of [[Clay-2733 | John Thomas Clay]] and [[Bridge-854 |Mary Ann (Carlton) Clay]]. Although found in many online Clay family trees ]these parental associations are speculative and not supported by the facts. Very little is actually known of John Clay prior to his immigration in 1613. . Refer to [http://www.clayfamilysociety.org/ui38.htm John Clay - Fact and Fiction] an address to the Jamestowne Society, May 6, 1995, by the late Robert Young Clay, (4 September 1936-6 May 2010) a Clay descendant, also a renowned Clay researcher and speaker, Archivist for the Library of Virginia, and artist. The identity of John Clay's parents is not currently known.
:'''Existing Evidence'''
In Crich Parish, Derbyshire, England, which consists of the villages of Crich, Fritchley and Whatstandwell. there is a [http://www.crichparish.co.uk/webpages/plaque44.html memorial] to John Clay, inside St Mary's Church that includes inscriptions to his two wives and five children, The web posting includes the following information: "This monument to the Clays appears to have been erected to the memory of John Clay, Esq. who died in 1632, and Mary, his first wife, daughter of William Calton, of Calton, Esq. Chief Cock Matcher and Servant of the Hawks to Henry VIII. and widow of ...... Charnels, of Snareston, Esq. She died in 1583: his second wife was the widow of German Pole, Esq. and daughter of Edward Ferrers, of Tamworth, Esq." [http://www.crichparish.co.uk/webpages/plaque44.html Burial Monument to John Clay and Mary (Calton) Clay], St. Mary;s Church, Crich Parish, England, (citing Stephen Glover, The History of the county of Derby) The monument lists three daughters, and two sons of John Clay, which are William and Theophilus. John Clay Esq died abt 1632, Mary (Calton) Clay died in 1583, four years before the John Clay of this profile was born (c 1587) and whose name is conspicuously absent from the monument. Based on this evidence [[Clay-2733|John Clay]] and [[Bridge-854|Mary Ca(r)lton Clay]] were detached as parents of John Clay (1587-1655). [https://books.google.com/books?id=9gQVAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA321&lpg=PA321&dq=William+Calton,+of+Calton,+esq&source=bl&ots=9R8jNQKojK&sig=cJglku77vqIGpxqqbWnwdMKtp9c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjP_ePlyI_aAhUBF2MKHQkxB8MQ6AEIRDAF#v=onepage&q=William%20Calton%2C%20of%20Calton%2C%20esq&f=false The history of the county of Derby], ed. by T. Noble, Volume 2, Stephen Glover, 1829 (refer to the notes on page 321)
=== Immigration ===John Clay, an [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_planter ancient planter], came to Virginia in 1613 and his wife Ann in 1623. [http://www.virtualjamestown.org/Muster/muster24.html Jamestown 1624/5 Muster Records] (Claye), Virtual Jamestown:
He patented lands in 1635 on Ward's creek, in what is now Prince George county. Patent Book I, page 230 [http://vagenweb.org/tylers_bios/vol1-20.htm#bottom Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, page 212]
He arrived in Jamestown with his two younger brothers in the 'TREASURER", Feb of 1613 according to the muster on the 'Treasurer'. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s,p 67. [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010. Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012.< http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pili354&h=4118014&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt> The Treasurer, sent to protect the settlers in Jamestowne, was commanded and partially owned by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Argall|Captain Samuel Argall], who was a brother of [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59757079 Elizabeth Argall Filmer], ancestress of [[Green-1725|Martha]] & [[Green-1726|Lucy Green Clay]] (wife of [[Clay-378|Henry Clay 1711-1764]]). The First Republic in America" by Alexander Brown, pg 282
=== Ancient Planter ===It is stated in his muster that he (John Clay) was a planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale. Kinard, June. comp., Early Immigrants to Virginia from the 1500s and 1600s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data Published by The Researchers, PO box 39063, Indianapolis IN. 46239-0063.
=== Marriage ===The long-held traditional story is that John married (1st) Ann (1613) in London, England. This idea was first presented by Mary Rogers Clay, "The Clay Family", Ref: "Notes on the Clay Family", Stephen O Southall Some have said her maiden name was Nichols, however, all that is known for certain is that her given name was Anne.
It has long been held that John had married Ann before leaving England and left his wife behind when he said for Virginia in 1612/13. Ann later arrived on the "ANN", August 1623. John Camden Hotten: London, 1874. Reprint by Empire State Book Co., New York. , citing Jamestown Muster 1624/25 [http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/jamestown/census/jameship.txt THE CENSUS OF VIRGINIA IN 1624; Ann Claye, wife of John Claye] Researcher Robert Young Clay, (4 September 1936-6 May 2010), renowned Clay researcher and speaker, in an 1995 address to the Jamestown Society said, ''Researchers seem now agreed that his marriage to Ann likely took place here rather than in England. She is assumed to be the mother of John’s son William. At some later date, John married a second wife, Elizabeth, whose surname is also unknown, who was the mother of Charles. After John Clay’s death, Elizabeth his widow married a close neighbor, Captain John Wall, and after Wall’s death, she married John Tate.'' [http://www.clayfamilysociety.org/ui38.htm ''John Clay, Fact or Fiction'', Robert Young Clay, Jamestown Society, May 6, 1995 That Elizabeth was the mother of Charles Clay is proven by a deed of gift of two ewe lambs from Captain Wall to his “sonne in law Charles Clay,” 3 October 1660. Elizabeth Clay Wall is the subject of several depositions in 1662 when the was involved in a brawl with an Indian servant who hit her, bit her and tried to force her head into an “oven then red hot & ready for bread to be set therein.”In 1624 they were living in Charles City, Virginia, along the banks of the James River where John had been granted 1200 acres in the County, beginning at the lands granted by order of Court to Francis Hooke, up to the head of Wards, his creek, and bounded on the north by the James River. Due 100 acres to him as an old planter before the government of Sir Thomas Dale, and the other 1100 for the transportation of 21 persons by the "west"., July 13, 1635. These lands granted John were near the present City Point, only a few miles from what is now Chesterfield County, and no other settler of the name is mentioned in any record in this section. Richmond Critic, 1888
After Anne died between 1638-1645, John married (2nd) Elizabeth _____. Her maiden name is sometimes said to be Frame, however, this is not certain. Note: John Clay descendant, David Douglas, has auDNA matches with several testers bearing the Frame surname.
=== Children ===
:The children of John Clay and Ann ______ are said to be:
#Thomas Clay [https://archive.org/stream/clayfamily00smit/clayfamily00smit_djvu.txt "The Clay Family" (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay] Now believed to have been included as a child in error.#Francis Clay Now believed to have been included as a child in error.
#[[Clay-340|William Clay]]
#[[Clay-340|Anne Clay]], b, abt. 1610, m John Frame (1608-1655)
#[[Clay-1179|John Clay]], b abt. 1624
:The children of John Clay and Elizabeth ______ are said to be:
#[[Clay-11|Charles Clay]], b abt. 1638 Now believed to be the son of John Clay and (2nd) wife Elizabeth ____.
===Uncertain Children===The list of children for John Clay was compiled from several sources and it may contain errors. It is based on the work of many researchers of the Clay Family and has been reproduced in many online Clay family trees. Additionally, there are several published books and articles along with the dozens of online accounts of the children of John Clay. Each one seems to contain different and sometimes confusing accounts or listings of his children. Where they do seem to agree most often is on William and John, who are found in the colonial property records of Virginia, each having land nearby their father. [http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/john_clay_&_elizabeth.htm John Clay & Elizabeth] We will examine these different accounts, try to determine the verifiable facts, and discover if possible, the sources of this information, and finally attempt to separate fact from error.
:'''Rev Stephen O Southall - Genealogist'''
The late Reverend Stephen O. Southall, a genealogist with 50 years of research into colonial Virginia records in his "Notes on the Clay Family", in regards to the children of John Clay, the immigrant wrote :
:"In her excellent book entitled The Clay Family (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay states (pages 65-66) that John Clay, the emigrant, had four (4) sons, naming as two (2) of them Francis Clay of Northumberland county and Thomas Clay, one of the fourteen persons "who did unlawfully assemble at ye p���ish church of Lawnes Creek [Surry County] with intent to declare they would not pay their publiq taxes…"
: "This is certainly an error and as I was partly the cause of the error, I wish to correct it, and give as far as I can, the true history, though the facts are meager. When Mrs. Clay asked me for the names of the Clays in Virginia, I gave her the names of '''Francis Clay''' and '''Thomas Clay'''; but failed to tell her that they were not descended from John Clay, the emigrant".
This statement from the Reverend Stephen O. Southall indicates that Francis and Thomas Clay were mistakenly identified as sons of John Clay, the immigrant. The work of Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay, "The Clay Family" was published in 1899 and for more than 100 years has been cited as a primary reference regarding Capt John Clay and his descendants. [https://archive.org/stream/clayfamily00smit/clayfamily00smit_djvu.txt "The Clay Family" (Filson Club. Publications No. 14. Louisville, Kentucky, 1899) Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay] [http://www.blankensteingenealogy.net/john_clay_&_elizabeth.htm Genealogy of VA Families VII 1981,Some Notes on the Clay Family p 77-80],Contributed by the late Reverend Stephen O. Southall
:'''Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay - Genealogist'''
From her book, "The Clay Family" we read the following regarding the children of John Clay, the Immigrant :
: "The children of Captain John and Ann Clay, so far as known, were :
: I. '''Francis Clay''', whose name appears on the records of Northumberland County, Virginia, from October 19, 1652, in the grants of lands, until June 8, 1658, and in Westmoreland County on May 21, 1666.
:II.'''William Clay'''. In 1655 William Bayley had a patent for four hundred acres of land on Ward's Creek, purchased of William Clay, son of John Clay, assignee of Francis Hooke, patentee of 1637.
: III. '''Thomas Clay''', one of fourteen persons "who did unlawfully Assemble at ye pish church o Lawnes Creeke, with Intent to declare they would not pay theire publiq taxes, & yt they expected diverse others to meet them. ( Surry Co., 3rd J any Ao. Dom. 1673.)" (William and Mary Quarterly Magazine.) 2.
: IV. '''Charles Clay''', born 1638, died 1686 (intestate). He married Hannah Wilson, daughter of John Wilson, senior, of Henrico County, Virginia, and states in Court, April 1686, that he has received his wife's part of her father's estate. ( 1688- 1697, page 360.)"
We have already learned that Francis Clay and Thomas Clay were included in this 1899 genealogy as children of John Clay by Mrs. Clay based on statements made by Reverend Stephen O. Southall, an error which he later corrected. We could examine this question in depth with a further exploration of primary records, however since we know the source of the misinformation, and that the author of that information published a correction of the erroneous application of that information we will accept his correction as sufficient evidence that Francis Clay and Thomas Clay were not the sons of John Clay, the Immigrant.
This leaves us with William, John, Charles, and Anne as possible children. We will look at Anne first. This is what we find. John FRAME A militia Captain who came to Va in 1622 Emigrates to Virginia in 1622 (Book I) on the ship Southampton, indentured to Captain John Harvey. He was born in 1607/8 at England. He married Ann Clay ? in 1629/30. He married Mary LAWRENCE (2257) in 1653/54. He died onDec 17, 1655, at Charles City Co., Va. Ann Clay ? was born in 1610. She married John FRAME, son of John FRAME, in 1629/30. She died in 1649/50 at Charles City Co., Va. [http://www.ghotes.net/PDF%20Files/Ahnentafel-Eva%20Virginia%20Justis.PDF Ahnentafel of Eva Virginia JUSTIS (1806)] This comes from an unsourced ancestor table. It is noted that Ann Clay is not found in the work of Mrs. Mary Rogers Clay as a child of John Clay. There is a John Frame mentioned in several land transactions in Charles County. He evidently lived near John Clay (possibly John Clay Jr). The record states, August 23, 1643, John Wall patented 1790 acres on Chippoakes Creek, between John Hooke and William Pilkington, adjacent John Clay and John Freme. One William Bailey patented 400 acres of land in Charles City, May 1, 1655, "part of a dividend of 200 acres granted Captain Francis Hooke, 26, October 1637 and assigned to John Clay and John Freme and by inheritance descended unto William Clay son of said John and by William Bailey purchased of said William Clay, the younger." It seems safe to say that since there was a William Clay, the younger, there would be an older William Clay. This would seem to support the existence of both sons, John and William Clay. Captain John Frame is indicated in genealogical histories and family trees as having married twice, first to an Anne, her maiden name, which is usually given as Clay is unproved. [https://sites.google.com/site/framednaproject/north-america FRAME / FREAME / FREMAULT DNA PROJECT RESEARCH NOTES] .
There is one researcher that thinks Charles Clay, b 1638 may be the grandson of John Clay, the Immigrant. and the son of John Clay Jr, Genealogy of VA Families VII 1981, Some Notes on the Clay Family p 77-80, Contributed by the late Reverend Stephen O. Southall The current belief, however, is that Charles born between 1638-1645 was actually the son of John Clay Sr and Elizabeth, his 2nd wife.
===Notable Descendants===:[[Clay-233|Sen Henry Clay]] (1777-1852), 7th Speaker of the US House of Representatives
:[[Clay-254|Gov Clement Comer Clay]] (1789-1866), Governor of Alabama:[[Clay-11|Dr Charles Clay]] (1638-1686), Participant in Bacon's Rebellion, early Charles City Physician.
:[[Clay-381|Abia Clay]] (1747-1791), Revolutionary War Soldier
== Sources ==
See also:*[https://familysearch.org/photos/stories/14630668 Captain John Thomas Clay (born 1587)]*[https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=29391 Charles City County court orders, 1655-1658] [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. *Charles City County court orders, 1655-1658. Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., 1961.*Clay Family Source Information Colonial Families of the United States of America, Volume V [database on-line].*Ancestor Lineages of Members Texas Society/National Society Colonial Dames Seventeenth Century [database on-line]. *Lineage of Members Source Information Lineages of Members of the National Society of Sons and Daughters of the Pilgrims, Vol. III [database on-line].
*Abstracts of Land Patents - Charles City County *[https://books.google.com/books?id=kThnhkqD0iMC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb#v=onepage&q&f=false Foley, Louise Pledge Heath. Early Virginia Families Along the James River: Their Deep and Tangled Branches]. Volume II (Charles City County-Prince George County, Virginia). Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2002.*[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59356092 Find A Grave Memorial# 59356092 Created by: David Reese]*[http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/o/a/t/David-Oates-MO/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0697.html John Thomas II Captain Clay/Claye (b. Abt. 1587, d. 07 Apr 1655)]*[http://www.angelfire.com/la2/gen/clayfamily.html CLAY FAMILY OF VIRGINIA]*"England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XKDQ-ZYC : 18 July 2017), John Clay, 15 Dec 1558, Christening; citing , Epping, Essex, England, Essex Record Office, England; FHL microfilm 571,180.*[https://archive.org/stream/clayfamily00smit#page/n77/mode/2up/search/John+Thomas+Clay The Clay Family by Smith, Z. F.]*See his profile at [https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/5394487/person/282779760/facts/ Ancestry.com]
Events
| Christen | 10 Jul 1586 | North Wingfield, Derbyshire, England | |||
| Birth | 1587 | Monmouthshire, Wales, England | |||
| Birth | 1587 | ||||
| Birth | Abt 1587 | England | |||
| Marriage | 1613 | London, London, England - Ann Nichols | |||
| Military Service | 1613 | Captain - Original Land Proprietor Capt. John Clay of Jamestown,Va. came in the "Tresurer" in 1613; received a grant of 1200 acre | |||
| Arrived | Feb 1613 | on the ship "Treasurer" - Jordan's Journey, Charles City, Virginia Colony | |||
| Marriage | 1623 | Virginia - Ann Unknown | |||
| 1624 Muster of all residents in Jamestown | 21 Jan 1624 | Charles City, Charles City County, Virginia, British Colonial America | |||
| Marriage | Bef 1638 | Elizabeth "Elizabeth Clay Wall" unknown | |||
| Marriage | 1645 | Virginia - Elizabeth UNKNOWN | |||
| Burial | 1655 | Charles City, Charles City County, Virginia, British Colonial America | |||
| Death | 7 Apr 1655 | Charles City, Charles County Virginia | |||
| Death | 7 Apr 1655 | ||||
| Death | 7 Apr 1655 | Charles City, Charles City County, Virginia | |||
| Marriage | Elizabeth UNKNOWN | ||||
| Alt name | John Clay Jr. | ||||
| Alt name | John Clay | ||||
| Alt name | Claye | ||||
| Reference No | 182878 | ||||
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| Reference No | 60 | ||||
| Reference No | 197588 |
Families
| Spouse | Ann Nichols (1590 - 1660) |
| Child | Dr Charles Clay (1638 - 1686) |
| Child | Ann Clay (1610 - 1650) |
| Child | John Clay (1624 - 1656) |
| Child | William Clay (1630 - 1663) |
| Spouse | Elizabeth UNKNOWN (1584 - ) |
| Spouse | Elizabeth "Elizabeth Clay Wall" unknown (1625 - 1666) |
| Child | Dr Charles Clay (1638 - 1686) |
| Spouse | Ann Unknown (1590 - 1645) |
| Child | Dr Charles Clay (1638 - 1686) |
| Child | Ann Clay (1610 - 1650) |
| Child | William Clay (1630 - 1663) |
| Child | John Claye Junior (1624 - 1647) |
| Father | Sir John Clay V (1558 - 1632) |
| Mother | Mary Carlton (1566 - 1588) |
| Sibling | Richard Clay (1585 - ) |
| Sibling | William Clay (1602 - ) |
| Father | John "Coal Baron of Wales" Claye V, Knight (1558 - 1632) |
| Mother | Mary Carlton (1566 - 1588) |