Individual Details
Ralph FitzAlan
(Abt 1330 - )
} ''Ralph FitzAlan'' is a descendant of Magna Carta surety barons
''[[De_Vere-309|Robert de Vere]]'' and ''[[Quincy-226|Saher de Quincy]]''
[[Category:Quincy-226 Descendants]][[Category:De_Vere-309 Descendants]] == Biography == "Ralph FitzAlan was buried at Towersey Church, Towersey, Buckinghamshire, England; '''He was illegitimate.''' Buried in Trinity Aisle in the church of Thame, Oxfordshire. He married Juliane de Grenville, daughter of William de Grenville, Sheriff of Oxford & Buckingham and Christian; They had 1 daughter (Alice, wife of Bartholomew Collingridge)."[http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p4808.htm#i144383 Our Royal, Titled, Noble, Commoner Ancestors] website, compiled by Marlyn Lewis, citing pages from Douglas Richardson's books. Birth date listed is estimated. == Note on Ralph's Coat of Arms == The following note was posted by Douglas Richardson at the [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2009-03/1236045603 gen-medieval forum] in 2009: "The coat of arms of Ralph de Arundel is found in a volume of Robert Glover’s collections (Brit. Mus, MS. Lans. 872). The coat of arms appears to have been taken from a window which was formerly found in the chapelry of the prebendal church of Towersey, Buckinghamshire, where Ralph de Arundel lies buried. These arms are those of the Earls of Arundel, they being Arundel and Warenne quarterly, placed on two flanches. According to various heraldic experts, the flanches are an indication of illegitimacy, the person so designated being the illegitimate son of a member of the house of Arundel. These same distinctive arms are also included among the quarterings claimed by Ralph de Arundel’s descendants, the Dormer family, in the 1634 Visitation of Buckinghamshire (see Philipot et al. Vis. of Buckingham 1634 & 1566 (H.S.P. 58) (1909): 40 (Dormer pedigree). The Dormers would have been quite familiar with the windows and heraldry in the chapel of the church at Towersey, as their male line Dormer forbears resided in the next door parish of Thame, Oxfordshire. As a matter of history, the arms in question (Arundel and Warenne quarterly) were only brought into being in 1347, when Richard de Arundel, Earl of Arundel (died 1376), became heir to his uncle, John de Warenne, Earl of Surrey. As such, Ralph de Arundel can only have been an child of either Earl Richard de Arundel, or one of his siblings. Reviewing the evidence, it appears best to assign Ralph de Arundel as a child of Earl Richard himself. The chronology certainly supports this placement. Also, the earl is known to have had an unhappy firs marriage and to have fathered at least one other illegitimate child. One heraldic expert has claimed that the flanches on Ralph de Arundel’s arms are an indication that the illegitimate person adopted the arms of his mother, not his father. If so, then Ralph de Arundel would necessarily be the son of one of Earl Richard’s many sisters. However, the fact that Ralph bore the surname, Arundel, is good evidence that it was his father who was an Arundel, not his mother, as bastard sons in this time period usually bore the surname of their father." == Sources ==
''[[De_Vere-309|Robert de Vere]]'' and ''[[Quincy-226|Saher de Quincy]]''
[[Category:Quincy-226 Descendants]][[Category:De_Vere-309 Descendants]] == Biography == "Ralph FitzAlan was buried at Towersey Church, Towersey, Buckinghamshire, England; '''He was illegitimate.''' Buried in Trinity Aisle in the church of Thame, Oxfordshire. He married Juliane de Grenville, daughter of William de Grenville, Sheriff of Oxford & Buckingham and Christian; They had 1 daughter (Alice, wife of Bartholomew Collingridge)."[http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p4808.htm#i144383 Our Royal, Titled, Noble, Commoner Ancestors] website, compiled by Marlyn Lewis, citing pages from Douglas Richardson's books. Birth date listed is estimated. == Note on Ralph's Coat of Arms == The following note was posted by Douglas Richardson at the [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2009-03/1236045603 gen-medieval forum] in 2009: "The coat of arms of Ralph de Arundel is found in a volume of Robert Glover’s collections (Brit. Mus, MS. Lans. 872). The coat of arms appears to have been taken from a window which was formerly found in the chapelry of the prebendal church of Towersey, Buckinghamshire, where Ralph de Arundel lies buried. These arms are those of the Earls of Arundel, they being Arundel and Warenne quarterly, placed on two flanches. According to various heraldic experts, the flanches are an indication of illegitimacy, the person so designated being the illegitimate son of a member of the house of Arundel. These same distinctive arms are also included among the quarterings claimed by Ralph de Arundel’s descendants, the Dormer family, in the 1634 Visitation of Buckinghamshire (see Philipot et al. Vis. of Buckingham 1634 & 1566 (H.S.P. 58) (1909): 40 (Dormer pedigree). The Dormers would have been quite familiar with the windows and heraldry in the chapel of the church at Towersey, as their male line Dormer forbears resided in the next door parish of Thame, Oxfordshire. As a matter of history, the arms in question (Arundel and Warenne quarterly) were only brought into being in 1347, when Richard de Arundel, Earl of Arundel (died 1376), became heir to his uncle, John de Warenne, Earl of Surrey. As such, Ralph de Arundel can only have been an child of either Earl Richard de Arundel, or one of his siblings. Reviewing the evidence, it appears best to assign Ralph de Arundel as a child of Earl Richard himself. The chronology certainly supports this placement. Also, the earl is known to have had an unhappy firs marriage and to have fathered at least one other illegitimate child. One heraldic expert has claimed that the flanches on Ralph de Arundel’s arms are an indication that the illegitimate person adopted the arms of his mother, not his father. If so, then Ralph de Arundel would necessarily be the son of one of Earl Richard’s many sisters. However, the fact that Ralph bore the surname, Arundel, is good evidence that it was his father who was an Arundel, not his mother, as bastard sons in this time period usually bore the surname of their father." == Sources ==
Events
| Birth | Abt 1330 | ||||
| Death | Towersey, Buckinghamshire, England |
Families
| Father | Richard FitzAlan (1306 - 1376) |
| Sibling | Margaret Fitzalan (1360 - 1420) |