Individual Details
John Warenne
(30 Jun 1286 - 29 Jun 1347)
==Source==John De (Warenne-91), Knit., 8th Earl of Surrey ...son and heir, born 30 June 1286, m. 1st on 25 May 1306, (#1)Joan (or Jeanne) De Bar-26), daug of Henri III, Count of Bar, by Eleanor, Daug of Edward I, King of England (see England 7), they had no issue. John took a mistress, (#2)Maud De Nerford-2), living 1326, dead bef 22 Nov.1345, daug of William de Nerford, Knt., of Clay, by Pernel, elder daug and co-heiress of John de Vaux, Knt., they had several children, including Edward (Warenne-81), Knt., ... in Feb. 1316, he began divorce proceedings against his wife, Joan. There is no record that the divorce was completed. In 1326 his settlement of his Surrey and Sussex estates was replaced with a new settlement on himself and his wife, Joan, ...In 1344 and 1345 the Vatican directed that he should be compelled to treat with marital affections his wife, whom he married by dispensation of Clement V, ... Regardless, sometime shortly be 2 June 1346, he took another mistress, (#3) Isbel De (Holand-11), daug of Robert de Holand, Knt., (Holland-33) 1st Lord Holand, by Maud (Zouche-64)), daug and co-heiress of Alan la (Zouche-2), Knt., Lord Zouche (see Holand 11. They had no issue.Sir John De Warenne, 8th Earl of Surrey died at Conisbrough, Yorkshire 20 June 1347. He left a will dated 24 Jun 1347, proved 26 Jul 1347 ... naming his mistress ("compaigne"), Isabel (Holand) (Holland-11). ... Joan de Bar, Countess of Surrey, died 30 (or 31) August 1361. SOURCE comment: "Royal Ancestry" by Douglas Richardson, Vol. V, page 313-315, under Ch. WARENNE ... Post by B Holland-3338 on 12/23/2015 == } == Biography == === Name === : Name: John /Warenne/ : Occupation: Earl of Warenne, Surrey and Strathearn === Birth === : Birth: :: Date: 30 JUN 1286 :: Place: Warren, Sussex, England === Death === : Death: :: Date: 29 JUN 1347 :: Place: Conisbrough, South Yorkshire, England === Burial === : Burial: :: Place: St Pancras Monastery at Lewes John de Warenne m. Joan de Barre in 1306 when she was 10 or 11 y.o. ... On 25 May 1306 Warenne married Joan of Bar, daughter of count Henry III of Bar and Eleanor of England, eldest daughter of king Edward I of England. The two were soon estranged and lived apart, and had no children, though the marriage was never dissolved. In 1316 Warenne was excommunicated for adultery with Maud de Nerford, by whom he had several illegitimate children. Maude de Skegeton, called Maud de Nerford was alive in 1326, but dead before 22 Nov 1345. Having no issue by his wife, he had for that, or some other reason, conceived a dislike to her, and had cohabited with one Maud de Nerford ... The earl finding that he could not have both a wife and concubine, was determined, if he could, to be without the former, and therefore, partly on the pretence of a prior contract made with this Maud de Nerford, and partly because Joan de Barr and he were too nearly related ... Johannes de Warren ... sued for a divorce; on account of a former contract with Maud de Nerford, it was necessary that the said Maud should libel against Joan de Barr; and accordingly she did so ... Joan (being the king's relation, and residing at court) was cited in the king's palace at Westminster. This divorce, being agreeable to both parties, took place*, and the earl settled on the said Joan 740 marks per annum, for life; after which she stayed in England till the 19 Edw. III. when obtaining protection for all her lands in England, which were assigned for her support, with the stock thereupon, for the better defence, and safe-guard of them in her absence, she went beyond sea, on special employment for the king. 26 Edw. III. she had licence there to continue, till the 15th of St. Michael that year; after which I know nothing more of her, than that the register book of Lewes tells us, that she died in 1361, and was buried abroad. * Other sources deny that the divorce was ever granted and it is generally accepted that it was not. • Memoirs of the Ancient Earls Vol 2 - John de Warenne, 8th Earl + Maud de Nerford his mistress :: It is because none of John's children were "legitimate" and therefore he had no one to legally pass his titles to, he is often styled "the last Earl". * The will of Earl John de Warenne: On Sunday the 24th day of June in the year of the Incarnation of our Lord 1347, I, John, Earl of Warenne, of Surrey and of Strathorne. Lord of Bromfeld and of Yal, in good and sound memory, make my Testament in my castle of Conesburgh ... I bequeath to Sir William de Warenne, my son, 100 marks, my helmet of silver gilt for Strathorne, with the coronet of silver gilt for the same, two fastenings and the pin of silver gilt for the cloak, and all my amour for joust, And to my daughter, his wife [not named], one golden broach, I bequeath to Edward de Warenne, my son, £5, I bequeath to Joan de Basyngg, my daughter, one cup of plain silver, I bequeath to Katherine, my daughter, 10 marks, I bequeath to Isabel, my daughter, a nun at Sempyngham, £5 I bequeath to Dan [“Dauns”] William de Warenne, my son, my Bible which I had made in French, and which should remain in the house where he shall be prior in perpetual memory of me. I bequeath to Sir Thomas Beron, 12 dishes, 12 saucers, six ordinary goblets, one plain cup, two basins and two chargers of silver, my old bed of red [English; “worsted”], and the cloth of one robe, partly of striped velvet and partly of red velvet, with the cloak of red velvet, for a vestment for his church. I bequeath to Isabel de Holand, my compaigne, my gold ring with the good ruby, the five gold rings placed as stars which are in my golden eagle, so that she put other rings in their place, such as she shall please, the complete principal vestments for my chapel, with the complete fittings for the altar, my censer of silver gilt and enamel, my golden cup with a little [English: “Ewer”] of silver gilt, all my beds, great and small, except those which I have bequeathed to othera [sic, plural], the great dish, the silver pot for alms, three plates for spices, all my vessels of plain silver, as in dishes, saucers, basins, washing dishes, chargers, cups and goblets, except those which I have bequeathed to others in this Testament, And the half of my stock, as oxen, cows, mares, foals, sheep and other beasts, And after my debts and my bequeaths shall be paid, I bequeath to my said wife, all the residue of all my goods and chattels, in whatever place they should be found, == Sources == * Memoirs of the Ancient Earls Vol 2 - [http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/w/a/r/W-R-Warren/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0973.html John de Warenne, 8th Earl + Maud de Nerford his mistress] * [http://www.warrenfamilyhistory.com/Docs/Our%20Warrens%20in%20England.htm THE WARREN FAMILY] * Medieval Lands - [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#John8Surreydied1347 JOHN de Warenne Earl of Surrey] * Yorkshire Archaeological Journal, Volume 19 (1907), [https://archive.org/stream/yorkshirearchae15socigoog#page/n208/mode/2up page 193].
Events
| Birth | 30 Jun 1286 | Warren, Sussex, England | |||
| Death | 29 Jun 1347 | Conisbrough Castle, Conisbrough, South Yorkshire, England |
Families
| Father | William Warenne (1256 - 1286) |
| Mother | Joan de Vere (1265 - 1293) |
| Sibling | Alice "Countess of Arundel" Warenne (1277 - 1338) |