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[[Category: Abercynrig, Llanfrynach, Brecknockshire]]
[[Category:Cymru 742-1535 Project]]
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== Biography ==
} Alice's father was Watkin ap Thomas ap David Llwyd ap Hywel ap Einion SaisBartrum: [https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4994/bleddyn%20ap%20maenyrch%2016.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y Bleddyn ap Maenyrch 16], Thomas of Aberhanddu (Brecon) ap Dafydd & Jane, da. Miles; [https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5182/Bleddyn%20ap%20Maenyrch%2013.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y Bleddyn ap Maenyrch 13], Howel ap Einion Sais Her mother was Margred ferch Hywel ap Dd y Blawd,[https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5184/Bleddyn%20ap%20Maenyrch%204.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y Bleddyn ap Maenyrch 4] ([[#Bartrum]])

She married Morgan Awbrey.[[#Bartrum]]
Morgan Awbrey had children by (1) Alice ferch Watkin and (2) a daughter of Sir Roger Vaughan. His children included Jane, Maud, Jenkin, Thomas, and John (by Alice, according to Theopilus Jones). Bartrum lists the following children (see [https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/6152/AUBREY%202_45.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y Aubrey 2], which indicates mother - (a) for Alice):
*Jenkin
*John
*Thomas
*Maud
*Richard
*Margred
*Dafydd
*Jane

== Research Notes ==



== Sources ==
* Jones, Theophilus. ''A History of the County of Brecknock,'' [https://books.google.com/books?id=Zoc1AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA618&lpg=PA618&dq=brecknock+castle&source=bl&ots=BauYP8rswK&sig=c2tEKmCiOeEZRXGyAIk9klb_2Ac&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yR0rVeqDDoWlNvCBgegE&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=awbrey&f=false p 466] (accessed May 27, 2015)::'''Note''': The dates for this line have issues because a few generations were omitted from the pedigree given by Theophilus Jones. Prof. Evans' work appears to validate Jones' pedigree of Thomas "the red constable" Awbrey (b 1299) who married Nest (b 1304), daughter of Owen Gethyn (b c. 1260), and their descendants, starting with Richard, b 1329 (father of this Walter), although [http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id163.html Ancient Wales Studies] further refines the dates to Thomas b 1310 and his son Richard b 1340, m Crisili b c. 1355/65.* [https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/handle/2160/4026 The Bartrum Project]:** [https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/6151/AUBREY%201_44.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y Aubrey 1], Thomas Aubrey, ''Y Cwnstbl Coch''** [https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5041/eidio%203.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y Eidio 3], Gwenllian ferch Rhys & Walter Aubrey Hen ap Richard** [https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/6152/AUBREY%202_45.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y Aubrey 2], "Morgan Aubrey Hen ap Gwallter"** [https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5184/Bleddyn%20ap%20Maenyrch%204.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y Bleddyn ap Maenyrch 4], shows Margred as daughter of Hywel and a daughter of Ieuan ap Madog [Havard 1] and married to Watkin ap Tos. [p 16]** [https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/4994/bleddyn%20ap%20maenyrch%2016.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y Bleddyn ap Maenyrch 16], shows Watkin son of Thomas ap Dafydd Llwyd & Jane (Scull) and children (including Alice m Morgan, son of Gwallter [Aubrey 2]) ** [https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/6336/HAVARD%201_954.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y Havard 1], shows Ieuan ap Madog as father of "NN" wife of "Hywel ap Dd y Blawd" [Bl. ap M 4], with Jonet added in parentheses* S-269701049: Ancestry Family Trees ([https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/9639887/person/361180267/facts Family Tree file]s submitted by Ancestry members).* S48: Ancestry Public Member Trees, database online 2006, records for Jenkin Awbrey, Alice Verch Watkin, Margared Verch Hywel, Watkin Ap Ieuan
:See also:* [https://books.google.com/books?id=T0yBxEFTER8C&pg=PT27&lpg=PT27&dq=red+constable+awbrey&source=bl&ots=c8chdaagU9&sig=VdosnimBLscQ7SSdlZn6uwlylIA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JctjVZz5MuTjsATgnYFY&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=red%20constable%20awbrey&f=false ''O Hudd Ei Ddoe''] by Myron Wyn Evans (2012)** Prof. Evans' book discusses findings of "genealogist and historian Sir Arthur Turner-Thomas on the medieval Awbrey line....He advised that the line back to Thomas Awbrey, Cwnstabl Coch (born about 1299) is authentic and reliable and appears in Bartrum, but before that is not reliable." Although deemed unreliable, the book includes a good overview and discussion of available sources and research, including Janet Ariciu's research. (Preview snippets are available for this e-book, available for purchase through Google Books).* [https://archive.org/stream/HeraldicVisitationsOfWalesAndPartOfTheMarchesBetweenTheYears1586/HeraldicVisitationsOfWalesAndPartOfTheMarchesBetweenTheYears1586And1613ByLewysDwnnVol.1#page/n262/mode/1up/search/awbre p 235], Visitations to Wales

== Acknowledgements ==* The WikiTree profile Wenllian-1 for "Elizabeth Wenllian" (wife of Morgan, mother of Jenkin, and daughter of Watkin) was [https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Wenllian-1 created] through the import of Grant_David_Meadors_2008-02-17.ged on Sep 18, 2011 by [[Meadors-35 | Grant Meadors]].* [[Noland-165|Liz Shifflett]] adopted Wenllian-1 and corrected the name to ferch Watkin (and changed Elizabeth to Alice, as no record was found that Morgan married a daughter of Watkin named Elizabeth).* The WikiTree profile Watkin-3 was [https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Watkin-3 created] through the import of David Rentschler Family Tree_2010-09-30.ged on 01 October 2010. Source citation: S48. '''Note''': Removed [[Ap_Ieuan-4|Watkin ap Ieuan]] as her father before merging Watkin-3 with ferch Watkin-1. ~[[Noland-165|Liz Shifflett]], July 22, 2015* A WikiTree profile for this person was created through the import of Newman Family Tree.ged on 12 March 2011. It included the source citation S-269701049.

Birth	Abt 1395	Wales
Marriage	1420	Morgan Awbrey
Marriage		Thomas ap Philip Vychan Vaughn
Reference No		10605560
Reference No		11228341
Reference No		60

Spouse	Thomas ap Philip Vychan Vaughn (1396 - )
Child	Denys Thomas (1414 - 1457)

Spouse	Morgan Awbrey (1410 - )
Child	Jenkin Awbrey (1435 - )

Father	Watkin ap Thomas (1375 - )
Mother	Margred ferch Hywel (1375 - )