Individual Details
Thomas Games
(Abt 1590 - Abt 1668)
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== Biography ==
Thomas was born about 1590. He passed away about 1668.
This person was created through the import of Shortened files.ged on 30 December 2010.
"John H. Gaines Family" tree AWTP John H. Gaines jhgaines@aol.com .
"26629" EakinArkiv@aol.com
"Stimpson Family" Cory Stimpson, cbstimpson@hotmail.com.
"My Roots" Christy Vendekieft Gibson kilikini@hawaii.rr.com
______________________________________________________________-NOTE: After viewing an array of family trees, it seems that there are two clearly defined lines, with Dafydd's son Morgan having two sons with different mothers (offspring Llewlyen and Ieuen); however, at various points along the line of descent, there seems to be some "overlapping" or juxtaposition of one line with another.
For instance, several trees show ascent from:
Thomas Gaines and Blanch Kemis/Kemeys to
Thomas Gaines and Jane Harvard/Havard,
then to John Gaines and Elizabeth Vaughan/Vaughn,and then to Edward Gaines (b. 1564 who apparently descends Morgan Gam and wife Tanglwist)
But, several other trees show the line from
Thomas Gaines and Blanch Kemis/Kemeys,
to John Gaines and Wilford Awbrey,
then to John Gaines and Elinor Morgan,and then to Thomas Gaines (b. abt 1535 who apparently descended from Morgan Gam and second wife Margaret Verch Llwyd/Lloyd)
So my my tree at this time is only reflecting what appears to be the "best scenario" thus far. It seems clear that all descend from Dafydd and Gwenillan and their son Morgan, but it is unclear to me at that point. Assistance would be appreciated!
=== Notes ===: Said to be a descendant of David "Gam" ap Llewelyn, who died at Agincourt.
: : From Curt Gaines (rcgtkg@voicenet.com): Most Gaines (except the the Connecticut branch) in this country descend from Thomas of Virginia who arrived from Wales right around the time of Cromwell's revolution against King Charles I. If you have southern Gaines ancestry you can be sure that this is your line. They lived in King and Queen County near Jamestown and then moved inland to Culpeper. They all had 10 or 12 children and named them similar names, William, James, Richard, etc. They married into Prominent Virgina Families such as Strother, Pendleton, Botts, Early, Taylor etc ; you will see those repeated as middle names again and again in the descendants. The study of the descendants of Thomas of Virginia was advanced in 1969 by Calvin Sutherd whose work is published and avaiable at the Library of Congress [I have a copy. KP]. This is one of the best sources for American Gaines descendants [although my husband's branch is missing. KP]. I have been working to extend his study to include the ancestry of Thomas back in Wales. The link between Thomas and Sir John Games needs to be strengthened. Thomas Gaines is speculated to be the son or grandson of Sir John Games of Newton in Brecon, Wales. Others say he descends from John Games of Aberbran, a cousin of Sir John. It is said that we used 'Games' in Wales and 'Gaines' in England. To sum up: We know a lot about the Thomas Gaines descendants and alot about the Games ancestors but we need to have some more documentation on this link between Wales and America. I believe that the timing of Thomas Gaines arrival in America has to do with the fact that he was a man from a traditionally loyalist family leaving a country that was being run by revolutionaries, but this is only a guess.: Working backwards in time, here is some info on some of the people...: Sir John Games. He was the great-great-great-grandson of the famous David Gam. Sir John built, in 1582, and lived in the manor fortress called Newton on a piece of land that had been in his family for hundreds of years. This farm, Newton, is still in existence; I visited there last summer. This was all the info my wife and I had to go on when we scheduled 3 days in a B and B in Brecon. It is beautiful pastoral mountainous country. Our first day there we located Newton at the confluence of two rivers. We met the current tenants, they had lived there as tenant farmers for over 60 years. They live in only 3 rooms of the huge four story home, the rest is very medievel with tall ceilings and massive windows and doors. The focal point is the mantle above the fireplace in the great hall. It was installed by Sir John Gaines and traces his lineage, in Wel[s]h, back 6 generations to David Gam. Above the fireplace is the family coat of arms, said to have been deliberatley defaced by Cromwell's revolutionary troops. The Games family was prominent in Brecon and there are other notable estates with Gaines connections. One of them is called PenPont. It was built around 1666 on land that belonged to David Gam's greatgrandfather Einion Sais. A great castle there was destroyed in 1400 by Owain Glendower the revolutionary Welchman who was an enemy to the royalist Gams. Anyway, the grand[d]aughter of Sir John, was the first inhabitant of this fine mansion which we visited. It is now a B and B and is run by descendants of Sir John Gaines. I read in a book that many old family portraits were housed there including on of Sir John himself. I asked the owner to see it, [but] she informed me that it had been auctioned off in 1992! They don't know where it is now. I would like to track this down somehow.
: : David Gam, d. 1415, Welsh warrior, is more properly styled Davydd ab Llewelyn. "Gam" is a nickname meaning "squinting," which, like other Welsh nicknames, became equivalent to a surname. David's father was Llewelyn, the son of Hywel, the son of Eineon Sais. Llewelyn possessed fair estates in the parishes of Garthbrengy and Llanddew, which lay within the honour or lordship of Brecon, a dependency of the earldom of Hereford, and after 1399 lapsed to the crown by the accession of Henry IV, who had long enjoyed that earldom. Peytyn was the name of Llewelyn's chief residence. David is described in a verse attributed to Owain Glyndwr as a short red-haired man with a squint. He was faithful to his lord, Henry IV, even during the revolt of Owain. He was rewarded for his services by a large share in the South Welsh lands confiscated from rebels in 1401 (Wylie, Hist. of Henry IV, p. 245). There is a story that David plotted against the life of Owain when attending the Welsh parliament at Machynlleth. But it rests on no early authority, misdates the year of the Machynlleth parliament, and wrongly makes David a brother-in-law of Owain. There seems nothing to show that David ever wavered in his allegiance. David was taken prisoner by Owain, probably at a time when Owain's successes were very few. On 14 June 1412 David's father, Llewelyn ab Hywel, and the seneschal and receiver of Brecon were empowered to treat with Owain, and by ransom or by capturing rebel prisoners to extricate David from his rigorous imprisonment (Federa, viii. 753). It is said that David soon after got into trouble by killing a kinsman in an affray in Brecon town. In 1415 David, accompanied by three foot archers only, followed Henry V on his invasion of France (Nicolas, Battle of Agincourt, p. 379). It is reported that when, on the eve of the battle of Agincourt, he was questioned by the king as to the number of the enemy, he replied "that there were enough to be slain, enough to be taken prisoners, and enough to run away." The story, however, first appears in Sir Walter Raleigh's "History of the World" (p. 451). David was slain at the battle of Agincourt, which was fought on 25 Oct. 1415. The contemporary chroniclers who notice his death simply describe him as an esquire (Walsingham, ii. 313; cf. "Chronicles of London," quoted in Nicolas, pp. 279-80). There is a tradition that he was knighted for his valour when dying on the field of battle, and the fact that one chronicler says that two recently dubbed knights were slain (Gesta Henrici Quinti, p. 58, Engl. Hist. Soc.) is thought to bear out the story. But one writer at least mentions both the two knights and David Gam (Nicolas, p. 280). Lewis Glyn Cothi, a Welsh poet of the next generation, who celebrated the praises of David's children and grandchildren, regularly speaks of him, however, as "Syr Davydd Gam" (Gwaith, pp. 1, 8). : It has been suggested that David is the original of Shakespeare's Fluellen. This is not at all an improbable conjecture, as Fluellen is plainly a corruption of Llewelyn, and David was generally called David Llewelyn, or ab Llewelyn. The reference to him in Raleigh shows also that his name was familiar to the age of Elizabeth.: David is said to have married Gwenllian, daughter of Gwilym, son of Hywel Grach. He left a family. His son Morgan became the ancestor of the Games of Breconshire. His daughter Gwladus was by her second husband, Sir William ab Thomas of Raglan, the mother of William, the first Herbert Earl of Pembroke.
: : Llewelyn Ap Howel (David Gam's Father). Llewelyn possessed fair estates in the parishes of Garthbrengy and Llanddew, which lay within the honour or lordship of Brecon, a dependency of the earldom of Hereford, and after 1399 lapsed to the crown by the accession of Henry IV, who had long enjoyed that earldom. Peytyn was the name of Llewelyn's chief residence. On 14 June 1412 Llewelyn ab Hywel, and the seneschal and receiver of Brecon were empowered to treat with Owain Glendower, and by ransom or by capturing rebel prisoners to extricate David from his rigorous imprisonment (Federa, viii. 753).
: : Einion Sais: (David Gam's Great-grandfather). His residence was near Bettwa Chapel in Brocknockshire, Wales though "not a stone remains" Dwnn's visitations of Wales, Vol III page 36 footnote 12.: Sennybridge Castle, aka Castell Rhyd-Y-Briw & Castell Du Powys, mid Wales. Location map link for Sennybridge Castle. Only fragments of the south wall of a courtyard with a projecting round tower about 7.8m in diameter now survive of a 13th century castle, alternately known as Castell Rhyd-Y-Briw. This may have been the castle begun by Llywelyn ap Gruffydd in 1262, and in 1271 was occupied by his ally Einion Sais, who is traditionally said to have had a second castle at Penpont where a tributary stream flows into the River Usk halfway between Castell Du and Brecon.: From History of the County of Brecknock by Theophilus Jones (1898), volume 2, page 77: [1321] The younger [Hugh] D'Espencer was now constituted governor of Brecknock castle; and afterwards obtained a grant of the lordship, together with Penkelly, Cantreff-Selyff, Blanllyfni and Dinas, late the property of the earl of Hereford and Roger Mortimer, [John] Giffard and Rhys ap Hywel, who had been attainted for the late rebellion. [The Earl of Lancaster's rebellion, which ended at Boroughbridge in 1321]. This last was the lineal descendant of Bleddyn ap Maenarch and grandson of that Trahearn fychan who was so inhumanly murdered by William de Breos of Brecknock: page 80: Einion the second son of Rhys ap Hywel, whose attainder has been noticed, embraced a military life and served our third Edward in the memorable battles of Cressy and Poictiers; after a long residence in England he returned to his native country with considerable: opulence and married the rich heiress of Howel, lord of Miscin in Glamorganshire; he became possessed by purchase of nearly the whole of what is now called the hundred of Devynnock, from Llywel on the borders of Carmarthenshire to the river Tarell near Brecon. He built a: castellated mansion for his residence in the parish of Llandspyddid, lately called the castle field, now the property of Penry Williams of Penpont, esquire: it is described to have been situated on the fall of a small brook into the Usk, near Bettws or Penpont chapel: there is still an: unevenness in the surface of the ground, though there are not now the smallest vestiges of buildings remaining; Hugh Thomas, who wrote in 1698, recollects to have seen the ruins, and there are others living who remember the rubbish being removed and the soil cleared of the: stones and materials of the walls: it was called from the owner, Castell Einion Sais, or Einion the Englishman's castle, an appellation by which the Welsh to this day sometimes distinguish not only the English settlers among them, but also their own countrymen who have been brought up and educated in England. - Curt Gaines
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'''Born'''
ABT 1590.
Newton, Brecon Co, Wales.
1630
Brecon Co, Wales.
''Found multiple copies of birth date. Using ABT 1590''
'''Born'''
ABT 1590.
Newton, Brecon Co, Wales.
1630
Brecon Co, Wales.
''Found multiple copies of birth date. Using ABT 1590''
'''Born'''
ABT 1590.
Newton, Brecon Co, Wales.
1630
Brecon Co, Wales.
''Found multiple copies of birth date. Using ABT 1590''
== Sources ==
* Ralston & Russell Genealogy by Barbara Gonce Clepper 1986
== Biography ==
Thomas was born about 1590. He passed away about 1668.
This person was created through the import of Shortened files.ged on 30 December 2010.
"John H. Gaines Family" tree AWTP John H. Gaines jhgaines@aol.com .
"26629" EakinArkiv@aol.com
"Stimpson Family" Cory Stimpson, cbstimpson@hotmail.com.
"My Roots" Christy Vendekieft Gibson kilikini@hawaii.rr.com
______________________________________________________________-NOTE: After viewing an array of family trees, it seems that there are two clearly defined lines, with Dafydd's son Morgan having two sons with different mothers (offspring Llewlyen and Ieuen); however, at various points along the line of descent, there seems to be some "overlapping" or juxtaposition of one line with another.
For instance, several trees show ascent from:
Thomas Gaines and Blanch Kemis/Kemeys to
Thomas Gaines and Jane Harvard/Havard,
then to John Gaines and Elizabeth Vaughan/Vaughn,and then to Edward Gaines (b. 1564 who apparently descends Morgan Gam and wife Tanglwist)
But, several other trees show the line from
Thomas Gaines and Blanch Kemis/Kemeys,
to John Gaines and Wilford Awbrey,
then to John Gaines and Elinor Morgan,and then to Thomas Gaines (b. abt 1535 who apparently descended from Morgan Gam and second wife Margaret Verch Llwyd/Lloyd)
So my my tree at this time is only reflecting what appears to be the "best scenario" thus far. It seems clear that all descend from Dafydd and Gwenillan and their son Morgan, but it is unclear to me at that point. Assistance would be appreciated!
=== Notes ===: Said to be a descendant of David "Gam" ap Llewelyn, who died at Agincourt.
: : From Curt Gaines (rcgtkg@voicenet.com): Most Gaines (except the the Connecticut branch) in this country descend from Thomas of Virginia who arrived from Wales right around the time of Cromwell's revolution against King Charles I. If you have southern Gaines ancestry you can be sure that this is your line. They lived in King and Queen County near Jamestown and then moved inland to Culpeper. They all had 10 or 12 children and named them similar names, William, James, Richard, etc. They married into Prominent Virgina Families such as Strother, Pendleton, Botts, Early, Taylor etc ; you will see those repeated as middle names again and again in the descendants. The study of the descendants of Thomas of Virginia was advanced in 1969 by Calvin Sutherd whose work is published and avaiable at the Library of Congress [I have a copy. KP]. This is one of the best sources for American Gaines descendants [although my husband's branch is missing. KP]. I have been working to extend his study to include the ancestry of Thomas back in Wales. The link between Thomas and Sir John Games needs to be strengthened. Thomas Gaines is speculated to be the son or grandson of Sir John Games of Newton in Brecon, Wales. Others say he descends from John Games of Aberbran, a cousin of Sir John. It is said that we used 'Games' in Wales and 'Gaines' in England. To sum up: We know a lot about the Thomas Gaines descendants and alot about the Games ancestors but we need to have some more documentation on this link between Wales and America. I believe that the timing of Thomas Gaines arrival in America has to do with the fact that he was a man from a traditionally loyalist family leaving a country that was being run by revolutionaries, but this is only a guess.: Working backwards in time, here is some info on some of the people...: Sir John Games. He was the great-great-great-grandson of the famous David Gam. Sir John built, in 1582, and lived in the manor fortress called Newton on a piece of land that had been in his family for hundreds of years. This farm, Newton, is still in existence; I visited there last summer. This was all the info my wife and I had to go on when we scheduled 3 days in a B and B in Brecon. It is beautiful pastoral mountainous country. Our first day there we located Newton at the confluence of two rivers. We met the current tenants, they had lived there as tenant farmers for over 60 years. They live in only 3 rooms of the huge four story home, the rest is very medievel with tall ceilings and massive windows and doors. The focal point is the mantle above the fireplace in the great hall. It was installed by Sir John Gaines and traces his lineage, in Wel[s]h, back 6 generations to David Gam. Above the fireplace is the family coat of arms, said to have been deliberatley defaced by Cromwell's revolutionary troops. The Games family was prominent in Brecon and there are other notable estates with Gaines connections. One of them is called PenPont. It was built around 1666 on land that belonged to David Gam's greatgrandfather Einion Sais. A great castle there was destroyed in 1400 by Owain Glendower the revolutionary Welchman who was an enemy to the royalist Gams. Anyway, the grand[d]aughter of Sir John, was the first inhabitant of this fine mansion which we visited. It is now a B and B and is run by descendants of Sir John Gaines. I read in a book that many old family portraits were housed there including on of Sir John himself. I asked the owner to see it, [but] she informed me that it had been auctioned off in 1992! They don't know where it is now. I would like to track this down somehow.
: : David Gam, d. 1415, Welsh warrior, is more properly styled Davydd ab Llewelyn. "Gam" is a nickname meaning "squinting," which, like other Welsh nicknames, became equivalent to a surname. David's father was Llewelyn, the son of Hywel, the son of Eineon Sais. Llewelyn possessed fair estates in the parishes of Garthbrengy and Llanddew, which lay within the honour or lordship of Brecon, a dependency of the earldom of Hereford, and after 1399 lapsed to the crown by the accession of Henry IV, who had long enjoyed that earldom. Peytyn was the name of Llewelyn's chief residence. David is described in a verse attributed to Owain Glyndwr as a short red-haired man with a squint. He was faithful to his lord, Henry IV, even during the revolt of Owain. He was rewarded for his services by a large share in the South Welsh lands confiscated from rebels in 1401 (Wylie, Hist. of Henry IV, p. 245). There is a story that David plotted against the life of Owain when attending the Welsh parliament at Machynlleth. But it rests on no early authority, misdates the year of the Machynlleth parliament, and wrongly makes David a brother-in-law of Owain. There seems nothing to show that David ever wavered in his allegiance. David was taken prisoner by Owain, probably at a time when Owain's successes were very few. On 14 June 1412 David's father, Llewelyn ab Hywel, and the seneschal and receiver of Brecon were empowered to treat with Owain, and by ransom or by capturing rebel prisoners to extricate David from his rigorous imprisonment (Federa, viii. 753). It is said that David soon after got into trouble by killing a kinsman in an affray in Brecon town. In 1415 David, accompanied by three foot archers only, followed Henry V on his invasion of France (Nicolas, Battle of Agincourt, p. 379). It is reported that when, on the eve of the battle of Agincourt, he was questioned by the king as to the number of the enemy, he replied "that there were enough to be slain, enough to be taken prisoners, and enough to run away." The story, however, first appears in Sir Walter Raleigh's "History of the World" (p. 451). David was slain at the battle of Agincourt, which was fought on 25 Oct. 1415. The contemporary chroniclers who notice his death simply describe him as an esquire (Walsingham, ii. 313; cf. "Chronicles of London," quoted in Nicolas, pp. 279-80). There is a tradition that he was knighted for his valour when dying on the field of battle, and the fact that one chronicler says that two recently dubbed knights were slain (Gesta Henrici Quinti, p. 58, Engl. Hist. Soc.) is thought to bear out the story. But one writer at least mentions both the two knights and David Gam (Nicolas, p. 280). Lewis Glyn Cothi, a Welsh poet of the next generation, who celebrated the praises of David's children and grandchildren, regularly speaks of him, however, as "Syr Davydd Gam" (Gwaith, pp. 1, 8). : It has been suggested that David is the original of Shakespeare's Fluellen. This is not at all an improbable conjecture, as Fluellen is plainly a corruption of Llewelyn, and David was generally called David Llewelyn, or ab Llewelyn. The reference to him in Raleigh shows also that his name was familiar to the age of Elizabeth.: David is said to have married Gwenllian, daughter of Gwilym, son of Hywel Grach. He left a family. His son Morgan became the ancestor of the Games of Breconshire. His daughter Gwladus was by her second husband, Sir William ab Thomas of Raglan, the mother of William, the first Herbert Earl of Pembroke.
: : Llewelyn Ap Howel (David Gam's Father). Llewelyn possessed fair estates in the parishes of Garthbrengy and Llanddew, which lay within the honour or lordship of Brecon, a dependency of the earldom of Hereford, and after 1399 lapsed to the crown by the accession of Henry IV, who had long enjoyed that earldom. Peytyn was the name of Llewelyn's chief residence. On 14 June 1412 Llewelyn ab Hywel, and the seneschal and receiver of Brecon were empowered to treat with Owain Glendower, and by ransom or by capturing rebel prisoners to extricate David from his rigorous imprisonment (Federa, viii. 753).
: : Einion Sais: (David Gam's Great-grandfather). His residence was near Bettwa Chapel in Brocknockshire, Wales though "not a stone remains" Dwnn's visitations of Wales, Vol III page 36 footnote 12.: Sennybridge Castle, aka Castell Rhyd-Y-Briw & Castell Du Powys, mid Wales. Location map link for Sennybridge Castle. Only fragments of the south wall of a courtyard with a projecting round tower about 7.8m in diameter now survive of a 13th century castle, alternately known as Castell Rhyd-Y-Briw. This may have been the castle begun by Llywelyn ap Gruffydd in 1262, and in 1271 was occupied by his ally Einion Sais, who is traditionally said to have had a second castle at Penpont where a tributary stream flows into the River Usk halfway between Castell Du and Brecon.: From History of the County of Brecknock by Theophilus Jones (1898), volume 2, page 77: [1321] The younger [Hugh] D'Espencer was now constituted governor of Brecknock castle; and afterwards obtained a grant of the lordship, together with Penkelly, Cantreff-Selyff, Blanllyfni and Dinas, late the property of the earl of Hereford and Roger Mortimer, [John] Giffard and Rhys ap Hywel, who had been attainted for the late rebellion. [The Earl of Lancaster's rebellion, which ended at Boroughbridge in 1321]. This last was the lineal descendant of Bleddyn ap Maenarch and grandson of that Trahearn fychan who was so inhumanly murdered by William de Breos of Brecknock: page 80: Einion the second son of Rhys ap Hywel, whose attainder has been noticed, embraced a military life and served our third Edward in the memorable battles of Cressy and Poictiers; after a long residence in England he returned to his native country with considerable: opulence and married the rich heiress of Howel, lord of Miscin in Glamorganshire; he became possessed by purchase of nearly the whole of what is now called the hundred of Devynnock, from Llywel on the borders of Carmarthenshire to the river Tarell near Brecon. He built a: castellated mansion for his residence in the parish of Llandspyddid, lately called the castle field, now the property of Penry Williams of Penpont, esquire: it is described to have been situated on the fall of a small brook into the Usk, near Bettws or Penpont chapel: there is still an: unevenness in the surface of the ground, though there are not now the smallest vestiges of buildings remaining; Hugh Thomas, who wrote in 1698, recollects to have seen the ruins, and there are others living who remember the rubbish being removed and the soil cleared of the: stones and materials of the walls: it was called from the owner, Castell Einion Sais, or Einion the Englishman's castle, an appellation by which the Welsh to this day sometimes distinguish not only the English settlers among them, but also their own countrymen who have been brought up and educated in England. - Curt Gaines
: Text: This individual (or object) is the subject of an article or stub at Wikipedia.
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'''Born'''
ABT 1590.
Newton, Brecon Co, Wales.
1630
Brecon Co, Wales.
''Found multiple copies of birth date. Using ABT 1590''
'''Born'''
ABT 1590.
Newton, Brecon Co, Wales.
1630
Brecon Co, Wales.
''Found multiple copies of birth date. Using ABT 1590''
'''Born'''
ABT 1590.
Newton, Brecon Co, Wales.
1630
Brecon Co, Wales.
''Found multiple copies of birth date. Using ABT 1590''
== Sources ==
* Ralston & Russell Genealogy by Barbara Gonce Clepper 1986
Events
| Birth | Abt 1590 | Newton, Brecon Co., Wales | |||
| Marriage | 1608 | Virginia Colony - Blanche Kemis | |||
| Death | Abt 1668 | Rappahannock County, Virginia Colony | |||
| Reference No | 19138445 | ||||
| Reference No | 20726643 | ||||
| Reference No | 60 |
Families
| Spouse | Blanche Kemis (1587 - 1634) |
| Child | Daniel Gaines (1614 - 1682) |
| Child | Richard Gaines (1605 - 1611) |
| Child | Edward Gaines (1612 - 1634) |
| Child | Robert Gaines (1613 - 1711) |
| Child | Thomas Gaines (1622 - 1699) |
| Child | Catherine Gaines (1628 - 1705) |
| Child | Francis Gaines (1628 - 1656) |
| Child | James Gaines (1629 - 1705) |
| Child | Margaret Gaines (1630 - ) |
| Father | Sir John Gaines (1559 - 1606) |