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Gospatric "II Earl of Lothian brother of Dolphin" Dunbar
(1062 - 23 Aug 1138)
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[[Category: Battle of the Standard]]
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== Biography ==Gospatric II's rights to the inherited lands of Lothian of Dunbar, were confirmed by the King. As the leader of the men of Lothian, he was killed in the Battle of the Standard 22 Aug 1138.[[Wikipedia: Gospatric II, Earl of Lothian]] He was one of the nine signatories to the charter of Scone, about 1115.
===Parents===Some of the most recent historic researching regarding Allerdale, Northumberland, Cumberland, Carlisle, Lothian and all of Middle England, is the 2015 work by Neil McGuigan, St Andrews Univ. He recognized the confusing commentaries for the 10th 11th Centuries but concluded on Gospatric II parentage and property. :"''geography and chronology point overwhelmingly to Gospatric son of Maldred (& Ealdgyth, grandgaughter of King Æthelred), who fathered Dolfin, Waltheof, and a younger Gospatric. The first, his eldest son, appears to have ruled in Carlisle when he was expelled by William Rufus in 1092. We also know that Allerdale, the territory specific to Gospatric’s Writ, was controlled by Gospatric's second son Waltheof in the early twelfth century. Given the bigger picture—fathers usually passing their holdings to their sons, and sons usually inheriting available patrimonies—it would be rather surprising if it turned out to be a pure coincidence that the antecessor of Dolfin and Waltheof and their father bore the same name"'' Neil McGuigan, N. (2015). Neither Scotland nor England: Middle Britain, c.850-1150; 377p, University of St Andrews, [https://research-repository.st-andrews.ac.uk/bitstream/handle/10023/7829/NeilMcGuiganPhDThesis.pdf?sequence=6&isAllowed=y]
Gospatric previously was profiled as illegitimate son of Gospatric I, Earl of Northumberland based on a memo from 1275. his mother is NOT the sister of Edmund.[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
Medlands judgement concludes...It seems more likely that Gospatrick was his father’s oldest legitimate son as his father’s title was transmitted to his descendants. But this comes after reciting several other findings.'' Simeon of Durham names Dolfin, Walther and Cospatric as the sons of Gospatrick[1407]. A memorandum dated to [1275] records that "Earl Cospatryk formerly earl of Dunbar in Scotland had a brother Dolfin earl of Northumbarland …both…bastards", that they had "a legitimate brother Waldeve and a legitimate sister Etheldreda…of one father and one mother."''
My conclusion is to go with Gospatric II as a younger son (legitimate) of [[Dunbar-27|Gospatric Dunbar]] At this time Gospatric is considered as the younger of his father's 3 legitimate sons, after Dolfin and Waltheof. See narrative above.
===Marriage & Children===His wife's name is unknown.[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
4 children are listed in Cawley MedLands. The most significant descendants were from his son [[Dunbar-755|Gospatric III]], who was father to [[Dunbar-754|Waltheof]] (father of Patrick Earl of Dunbar). Clearly at this time March 2017 others are attached to the profile and work and discussion is needed to clear the unproven or inaccurate descendants.* Gospatric (d.1166) m. Derdere[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
* Edward (d.ante 1152/3) m. Sybilla[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
* Edgar m. Alice of Greystoke[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
* Juliana m. Ranulf de Merlay of Morpeth[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
===Titles===The statement below is accurate, (March 2017) although he was granted authority and property he wasn't Earl of Dunbar. His position was confirmed by King Henry. See Paul Lee note to the left of this profile Bio.He styled as the 'brother of Dolphin.'[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospatric_II%2C_Earl_of_Lothian] There's no record which proves his earldom.[[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009] A charter, confirmed after his death, to the monks at Durham, styles him as "Gospatricus Comes"."son of Gospatric I, sometime Earl of Northumbria (d. after 1073). In the earliest sources, occurring at dates between 1120 and 1134 he is not styled "earl", but the "brother of Dolfin". ... earl by 1134 ... "chief leader of ... Lothian" ... killed at the Battle of the Standard. He had four sons, Gospatric III (his successor), Adam, Edward, and Edgar." ([[Wikipedia: Gospatric II, Earl of Lothian]])
== Sources ==
===Primary Sources===
* Domesday Book
* Roger of Hoveden
* Simeon of Durham
===Secondary Sources===* Cawley, C. (2006). "Scotland, mormaers, earls, lords." Medieval Lands v.3. [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#GospartrickDunbardied1138A fmg.ac].
* http://www.thepeerage.com/p10768.htm#i107673* Weis, F. L., Sheppard, W.L., Beall, W.R., & Beall, K.E. (2004). Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals, (pp.49). Genealogical Publishing Co. [https://books.google.com/books?id=3F9nG8aFJ7MC&lpg=PA49&dq=Sybil%20Morel%20of%20Dunbar&pg=PA49#v=onepage&q=Sybil%20Morel%20of%20Dunbar&f=false Google Books].
[[Category: Battle of the Standard]]
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== Biography ==Gospatric II's rights to the inherited lands of Lothian of Dunbar, were confirmed by the King. As the leader of the men of Lothian, he was killed in the Battle of the Standard 22 Aug 1138.[[Wikipedia: Gospatric II, Earl of Lothian]] He was one of the nine signatories to the charter of Scone, about 1115.
===Parents===Some of the most recent historic researching regarding Allerdale, Northumberland, Cumberland, Carlisle, Lothian and all of Middle England, is the 2015 work by Neil McGuigan, St Andrews Univ. He recognized the confusing commentaries for the 10th 11th Centuries but concluded on Gospatric II parentage and property. :"''geography and chronology point overwhelmingly to Gospatric son of Maldred (& Ealdgyth, grandgaughter of King Æthelred), who fathered Dolfin, Waltheof, and a younger Gospatric. The first, his eldest son, appears to have ruled in Carlisle when he was expelled by William Rufus in 1092. We also know that Allerdale, the territory specific to Gospatric’s Writ, was controlled by Gospatric's second son Waltheof in the early twelfth century. Given the bigger picture—fathers usually passing their holdings to their sons, and sons usually inheriting available patrimonies—it would be rather surprising if it turned out to be a pure coincidence that the antecessor of Dolfin and Waltheof and their father bore the same name"'' Neil McGuigan, N. (2015). Neither Scotland nor England: Middle Britain, c.850-1150; 377p, University of St Andrews, [https://research-repository.st-andrews.ac.uk/bitstream/handle/10023/7829/NeilMcGuiganPhDThesis.pdf?sequence=6&isAllowed=y]
Gospatric previously was profiled as illegitimate son of Gospatric I, Earl of Northumberland based on a memo from 1275. his mother is NOT the sister of Edmund.[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
Medlands judgement concludes...It seems more likely that Gospatrick was his father’s oldest legitimate son as his father’s title was transmitted to his descendants. But this comes after reciting several other findings.'' Simeon of Durham names Dolfin, Walther and Cospatric as the sons of Gospatrick[1407]. A memorandum dated to [1275] records that "Earl Cospatryk formerly earl of Dunbar in Scotland had a brother Dolfin earl of Northumbarland …both…bastards", that they had "a legitimate brother Waldeve and a legitimate sister Etheldreda…of one father and one mother."''
My conclusion is to go with Gospatric II as a younger son (legitimate) of [[Dunbar-27|Gospatric Dunbar]] At this time Gospatric is considered as the younger of his father's 3 legitimate sons, after Dolfin and Waltheof. See narrative above.
===Marriage & Children===His wife's name is unknown.[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
4 children are listed in Cawley MedLands. The most significant descendants were from his son [[Dunbar-755|Gospatric III]], who was father to [[Dunbar-754|Waltheof]] (father of Patrick Earl of Dunbar). Clearly at this time March 2017 others are attached to the profile and work and discussion is needed to clear the unproven or inaccurate descendants.* Gospatric (d.1166) m. Derdere[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
* Edward (d.ante 1152/3) m. Sybilla[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
* Edgar m. Alice of Greystoke[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
* Juliana m. Ranulf de Merlay of Morpeth[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009]
===Titles===The statement below is accurate, (March 2017) although he was granted authority and property he wasn't Earl of Dunbar. His position was confirmed by King Henry. See Paul Lee note to the left of this profile Bio.He styled as the 'brother of Dolphin.'[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospatric_II%2C_Earl_of_Lothian] There's no record which proves his earldom.[[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672009] A charter, confirmed after his death, to the monks at Durham, styles him as "Gospatricus Comes"."son of Gospatric I, sometime Earl of Northumbria (d. after 1073). In the earliest sources, occurring at dates between 1120 and 1134 he is not styled "earl", but the "brother of Dolfin". ... earl by 1134 ... "chief leader of ... Lothian" ... killed at the Battle of the Standard. He had four sons, Gospatric III (his successor), Adam, Edward, and Edgar." ([[Wikipedia: Gospatric II, Earl of Lothian]])
== Sources ==
===Primary Sources===
* Domesday Book
* Roger of Hoveden
* Simeon of Durham
===Secondary Sources===* Cawley, C. (2006). "Scotland, mormaers, earls, lords." Medieval Lands v.3. [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#GospartrickDunbardied1138A fmg.ac].
* http://www.thepeerage.com/p10768.htm#i107673* Weis, F. L., Sheppard, W.L., Beall, W.R., & Beall, K.E. (2004). Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals, (pp.49). Genealogical Publishing Co. [https://books.google.com/books?id=3F9nG8aFJ7MC&lpg=PA49&dq=Sybil%20Morel%20of%20Dunbar&pg=PA49#v=onepage&q=Sybil%20Morel%20of%20Dunbar&f=false Google Books].
Events
| Birth | 1062 | ||||
| Death | 23 Aug 1138 | Northallerton, Yorkshire, England | |||
| Reference No | 1549579 | ||||
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| Reference No | 60 |
Families
| Child | Gospatrick "III Earl of Lothian" Dunbar III (1090 - 1166) |
| Child | Margaret Gospatrick (1115 - ) |
| Child | Living |
| Child | Gospatric "III Earl of Lothian" Dunbar (1090 - 1166) |
| Child | Edward Dunbar (1090 - 1153) |
| Child | Uthred DeDundas (1092 - ) |
| Child | Lady Margaret Dunbar (1102 - 1120) |
| Child | Juliana Dunbar (1112 - 1160) |
| Child | Edgar "the Dauntless, Unnithing" Dunbar (1130 - 1179) |
| Father | Gospatric Dunbar (1040 - 1074) |
| Mother | Aethelreda Wessex (1042 - 1075) |
| Sibling | Waltheof "Waldeve, of Allerdale, 1st Baron of Allerdale" Dunbar (1062 - 1138) |