Individual Details
Frances Elizabeth White
(18 Jul 1616 - 19 Sep 1697)
Burial Details Unknown.
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Her surname also spelled "White." This "Frances Whyte," of royal lineage, is not substantiated! The baronial and royal ancestry of this Elizabeth has been disproved and is no longer accepted.
In a message dated 2/6/99 6:53:08 AM, PGEORG-D-@rootsweb.com << But the Stockett did go back on its own. If one wishes to exchangeinformation on Duvall or Stockett I will gladly do so. >> Carol, About a month ago you enlightened me on the Wells/White connection. Since then I have received a flurry of e-mails from Wells descendants, pro and con on the issue of whether Frances White was who people have, until recently, thought she was. Just wanted to alert you that there is at least one serious scholar out there--who he is, I'll have to dig out from my e-mails--who is preparing an article for publication which he says refutes "in part" the recent article you cited to me which seems to identify Frances White as the wife of another man. I'm not sure what his argument is; perhaps that the marriage cited in the recent article was a second marriage? In any event he would only tell me to "wait for the article"--apparently, he has so much time and effort invested in researching the problem he doesn't want to reveal what he knows until the article is published (i.e., he doesn't want to be scooped). Having come to this issue but recently, I come down on your side--the recent article (wish I could remember the author's name off hand, and I'm too lazy to look up the article at the moment!) made a pretty good analysis. But this other fellow seems to think the analysis is full of holes, and while he stops short from saying that he can prove Richard Wells was married to Frances White, the woman with the fancy ancestry, he does say he raises considerable doubt as to many points that have been made that point away from this conclusion. By the way, my wife is descended from Richard Wells and his wife through the Stocketts as well, and, though I know the Stockett family was armigerous, don't know the details as to their ancestry. I have never seen any alleged royal lines for this family, so I assume the Stocketts can be taken back just a couple of additional generations in England. Is this so? Dave Morehouse Frances Whyte was the namesake of her maternal grandmother Frances (Waldegrave), Countess of Portland.
More About FRANCES WHYTE: Immigrated: Cir. 1637, From ENGLAND to Virginia.
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Frances White, Born ca 1600 Europe
Possible Parents: Sir Richard and Lady Catherine Wells
Sir Richard and Lady Catherine were Catholics.
Due to this they fled Hutton Hall in County Essex, England and emigrated to Rome.
It is not known why they sent their young daughter Francis to America. (Wurts, Magna Carta, c1943).
According to some 2nd hand Internet info Lady Catherine was a descendant of Charlemagne through the following progression:
Dr.Richard Wells m. Frances White 1622 co Essex,
her father was Richard White who m. Katherine Weston;
her father was Richard Weston 1577-1635 Earl of Portland who m. Frances Waldegrave, d. of Nicholas Waldegrave who married Catherine Brown.
Catherine was the daughter of Sir Edward Waldegrave 1517-1561 who m. Francis Neville,
d. of Sir Edward Neville Beheaded 1540,
Sir Edward m. Eleanor Windsor, d. of Sir George Neville 1440-1492 who m.Margaret Fenne d. 1485.
Sir Edward Neville married Elizabeth Beauchamp, d. of Ralph De Neville.
Richard De Beauchamp Earl of Winchester m. Joan of Beaufort 1379-1440, m. Isabel le despenser 1400-1439...John of Gaunt 1340-1399...Thomas le despenser 1373-1400 beheaded, m.Catherine Roelt who m. Constance Plantagenet.
Both these lines supposedly go back to Charlemagne.
Francis married Dr. Richard WELLS. (Dr. Richard WELLS died after Jun 22, 1667 in , Anne Arundel, MD, USA.)
Children:
Mary
Richard
William
George
John
Robert
Benjamin
Ann
Elizabeth
Frances
Martha
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Her surname also spelled "White." This "Frances Whyte," of royal lineage, is not substantiated! The baronial and royal ancestry of this Elizabeth has been disproved and is no longer accepted.
In a message dated 2/6/99 6:53:08 AM, PGEORG-D-@rootsweb.com << But the Stockett did go back on its own. If one wishes to exchangeinformation on Duvall or Stockett I will gladly do so. >> Carol, About a month ago you enlightened me on the Wells/White connection. Since then I have received a flurry of e-mails from Wells descendants, pro and con on the issue of whether Frances White was who people have, until recently, thought she was. Just wanted to alert you that there is at least one serious scholar out there--who he is, I'll have to dig out from my e-mails--who is preparing an article for publication which he says refutes "in part" the recent article you cited to me which seems to identify Frances White as the wife of another man. I'm not sure what his argument is; perhaps that the marriage cited in the recent article was a second marriage? In any event he would only tell me to "wait for the article"--apparently, he has so much time and effort invested in researching the problem he doesn't want to reveal what he knows until the article is published (i.e., he doesn't want to be scooped). Having come to this issue but recently, I come down on your side--the recent article (wish I could remember the author's name off hand, and I'm too lazy to look up the article at the moment!) made a pretty good analysis. But this other fellow seems to think the analysis is full of holes, and while he stops short from saying that he can prove Richard Wells was married to Frances White, the woman with the fancy ancestry, he does say he raises considerable doubt as to many points that have been made that point away from this conclusion. By the way, my wife is descended from Richard Wells and his wife through the Stocketts as well, and, though I know the Stockett family was armigerous, don't know the details as to their ancestry. I have never seen any alleged royal lines for this family, so I assume the Stocketts can be taken back just a couple of additional generations in England. Is this so? Dave Morehouse Frances Whyte was the namesake of her maternal grandmother Frances (Waldegrave), Countess of Portland.
More About FRANCES WHYTE: Immigrated: Cir. 1637, From ENGLAND to Virginia.
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Frances White, Born ca 1600 Europe
Possible Parents: Sir Richard and Lady Catherine Wells
Sir Richard and Lady Catherine were Catholics.
Due to this they fled Hutton Hall in County Essex, England and emigrated to Rome.
It is not known why they sent their young daughter Francis to America. (Wurts, Magna Carta, c1943).
According to some 2nd hand Internet info Lady Catherine was a descendant of Charlemagne through the following progression:
Dr.Richard Wells m. Frances White 1622 co Essex,
her father was Richard White who m. Katherine Weston;
her father was Richard Weston 1577-1635 Earl of Portland who m. Frances Waldegrave, d. of Nicholas Waldegrave who married Catherine Brown.
Catherine was the daughter of Sir Edward Waldegrave 1517-1561 who m. Francis Neville,
d. of Sir Edward Neville Beheaded 1540,
Sir Edward m. Eleanor Windsor, d. of Sir George Neville 1440-1492 who m.Margaret Fenne d. 1485.
Sir Edward Neville married Elizabeth Beauchamp, d. of Ralph De Neville.
Richard De Beauchamp Earl of Winchester m. Joan of Beaufort 1379-1440, m. Isabel le despenser 1400-1439...John of Gaunt 1340-1399...Thomas le despenser 1373-1400 beheaded, m.Catherine Roelt who m. Constance Plantagenet.
Both these lines supposedly go back to Charlemagne.
Francis married Dr. Richard WELLS. (Dr. Richard WELLS died after Jun 22, 1667 in , Anne Arundel, MD, USA.)
Children:
Mary
Richard
William
George
John
Robert
Benjamin
Ann
Elizabeth
Frances
Martha
Events
| Birth | 18 Jul 1616 | Essex, England | |||
| Death | 19 Sep 1697 | Herring Creek, St. Mary's County, Maryland |
Families
| Spouse | Dr. Richard Wells ( - 1667) |
| Child | Mary Wells (1631 - 1698) |