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Guy I de Laval
(Bet 980 and 990 - 1062)
According to Wikipedia:
Guy I first Laval 1 (v 980/90 -.. V † 1062) Lord of Laval in 1020 . Note that there is sometimes confusion in the books between Guy Ier of Laval , and his grandson Guy II of Laval.
Family [ edit | modify the code ]
Herbert I st of Maine , Count of Maine says to 1020 the territory of Laval Guy Dénéré called " Conditor " in a charter of the priory of Saint-Martin de Laval in 1050 , to establish a castle. The oldest remains found inside the Laval castle date back elsewhere in this first half of the xi th century . Located near the borders of three important provinces, this castle can only develop quickly and the stronghold of the lords of Laval prosper for more than five centuries.
Guy I first get married twice:
A first time around 1010/1015 with Bertha, probably a daughter of Roger I st Tosny . They had five children:
Jean de Laval, monk in Marmoutier.
Hamon de Laval .
Hildesinde from Laval.
Agnes of Laval.
Hildeburgis from Laval.
In his second marriage around 1030 , he married Rotrude de Château-du-Loir, daughter of Hamelin de Château-du-Loir and Hildeburge de Bellême. This marriage will make Guy de Laval the brother-in-law of Haimon de Mayenne and Bishop Gervais de Belleme
With Rotrude he had two children:
Gude Laval (died around 1067).
Gervais from Laval
Guy I st of Dénéré planned a pilgrimage to Jerusalem in 1039 [ref. necessary] [insufficient source] 2 .
Origin [ edit | modify the code ]
The origin of Guy I first Laval is the subject of historical controversy. The archivists paleographers Arthur-Bertrand de Boussillon and Robert Latouche , author of a thesis on the counts of Maine, are opposed, as well as the abbot Angot , on the question of the origin of the first Guy de Laval.
Latouche's conclusion, discussed by Abbé Angot, is that the two charters of Couture on which he relied to identify Guy de Danazeio 3 with Guy de Laval being false, and that nothing can be learned from them 4 . For the abbot Angot, the interpretation of the reasons which determined the drafting of articles of alleged false charter xi th century or the xii th century , is tricky 5. The monks, falsifiers or not, could have a more or less intact text of which they would have taken the historical framework and modified the passages concerning their rights, and which they would have completed by the addition of formulas and proper names, without worrying anachronisms 6 . Anyway, for Father Angot, Guy de Laval is indeed the same character as Guido de Danazeio .
A judgment is not contested, made in 1064 by William the Bastard , we learn that Guy I first Laval have given to the abbey of Marmoutier land in the suburb of Laval 7 .
Guy de Laval, who had given the church of Auvers first to Guérin, then after the death of the latter and the overthrow of his projects, gave it to the Abbey of Couture . In the country of his origin, Guy de Laval was still known under the name of Guido de Danazeio 8 .
The three acts, that of Guillaume le Bastard, which is authentic, and those of Couture that can be challenged, agree perfectly for the historical facts they relate. The relations of Laval and his lords with Auvers continued long after the foundation of the priory of Auvers 9 . The mention of the monk Guérin in the charter of religious of Couture is, for its part, proof that they were informed about the origins of their possessions.
Finally, Father Angot develops a positive reason for identifying Guy de Laval with Guido de Danazeio: it is that the children of Guy de Laval were Hamon, the one who gave his name to Auvers-le-Hamon, and Jean, who was a religious of Marmoutier. These are also the names of the children that are given to Guido de Danazeio. These encounters were not fortuitous at the same time, on the same ground; it is proof of an identity already indicated by so many other circumstances. For him, Guy de Laval is therefore from Champagne du Maine .
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The legend also relates that passing on the bridge which spanned the Mayenne at the foot of his castle, he fell with his mount and, seeing himself lost, recommended himself to the Virgin Mary. Mysteriously brought back to the shore, he was making a prayer of gratitude when, in the branches of an oak, the Blessed Virgin appeared to him. He built a chapel, called Notre-Dame d'Avesnières , and a monastery of nuns where his daughters entered. Pilgrims flocked in large numbers and the chapel, enlarged several times, gave way to a basilica completed by Count Guy V de Laval , the founder's great-grandson.
Notes and references [ edit | modify the code ]
↑ Genealogy of Guy Ier de Laval on the Medieval Lands website [ archive ]
↑ He is at the origin of a charter concerning Asnières-sur-Vègre, in favor of the chapter of the cathedral of Le Mans, November 11, 1039. There is question of a pilgrimage project to Jerusalem. Chartularium insignis ecclesiae Cenomanensis quod dicitur Liber albus capituli , n ° XLVIII.
↑ For Father Angot, Guy de Laval does not derive this first name from Denazé , in Anjou . For him, as it was necessary to look for a locality of Champagne du Maine, he had believed that it was Avessé , possession of Laval, and the form of the name made possible the derivation, with a fault easy to commit by a copyist, confusion of letters n and u. Robert Latouche indicates that there is in the Champagne of Maine an old seigneury of the name of Denezé and that this name could be the one which one still finds carried, in a charter of the Couture, by a Hamelinus [of] Denacé. Father Angot admits this hypothesis very well: Guy de Laval would have drawn his first name from Denezé, from Danazeio, instead of Avessé, Avazeio, which he had proposed.
↑ They were fabricated to xii th century , says Latouche, by the monks of the Abbey of Couture , to allocate taxing rights and useful in Auvers, during a trial where rights needed to be established, and the names of the figures involved were taken at random from the documents the monks might have on hand. Guy de Danazeio, in particular, could well be from the family of a Hamelinus de Denacé, cited in the Cartulaire de la Couture.
↑ He indicates that we could provide other explanations than those of M. Latouche. Similarly, the way in which the actors or witnesses would have been solicited, according to him, is very complicated.
↑ He adds that we can even maintain that the religious simply reconstructed from memory a document of which they no longer had the text.
↑ The monks of Couture intervened, protesting that this land depended on their church in Auvers , because Guy had given it to a monk named Guérin, on condition that it would depend on this church in Auvers. It is the opposite, replied Guy: I gave this land to the monk Guérin to build a monastery of which he was to be abbot, and to which he was to submit first of all the church of Auvers and all that he could acquire elsewhere . Some time later, Guy made the following oath before Guillaume le Bastard: I never wanted the land in dispute to be submitted to the church of Auvers, neither when I gave it to the monk Guérin, nor when I gave the church itself to the monks of Couture. - Abbé Angot translated in direct style to avoid any possibility of amphibology . He adds that we must know, to understand these successive donations, that the monk Guérin, during his projects to erect an abbey in the suburb of Laval, had died assassinated. The church, the only part of the monastery he had completed, still exists. After this tragic death, Guy de Laval gave the land in the suburb of Laval to the monks of Marmoutier; it is this land that the monks of Couture claimed . They did so in vain, because Guillaume le Bastard handed down a sentence in accordance with Guy de Laval's assertions and favorable to the Abbé de Marmoutier.
^ For Abbé Angot, if we admit the translation he offers of Guy de Laval's oath, and which he does not see how we would dispute, if Guy claims to have given the monks of La Couture the church of 'Auvers, his thesis is thereby proven. It is Guy de Laval who gave the church of Auvers to La Couture , it is he who is the founder of the priory. Father Angot does not suppose that we want to translate the text of Guy's oath so as to make the monk Guérin the donor of the church of Auvers. Moreover, it was done, that the relations between Laval and Auvers, between Guy de Laval and what was Champagnedu Maine, would still not seem obvious in the authentic text, and would still make certain the identification of Guy de Laval with Guido de Danazeio, by bringing together the judgment of William the Bastard and charters X and XI of the Cartulaire de Couture .
↑ In 1158 , when it was agreed that the Church of the Trinity of Laval would be served by four monks from Couture , it was stipulated that one of the four would be taken from the priory of Auvers, and sufficient income for its maintenance taken on the temporal of this same priory; Auvers-le-Hamon owes its nickname to one of Guy de Laval's sons; finally, Champagne du Maine remained for centuries in the feudalism of the lords of Laval.
Bibliography [ edit | modify the code ]
Abbot Angot , "Origin of Guy I first Laval: Response to Mr. Robert Latouche " in 1907 [1] [ archive ] * * The Bertrand Brousillon, Paul Fracy illustrations, House of Laval, 1020-1605, historical accompanied of the cartualire of Laval and of Vitré , Paris, Alphonse Picard, 1895, five volumes.
Guy I first Laval 1 (v 980/90 -.. V † 1062) Lord of Laval in 1020 . Note that there is sometimes confusion in the books between Guy Ier of Laval , and his grandson Guy II of Laval.
Family [ edit | modify the code ]
Herbert I st of Maine , Count of Maine says to 1020 the territory of Laval Guy Dénéré called " Conditor " in a charter of the priory of Saint-Martin de Laval in 1050 , to establish a castle. The oldest remains found inside the Laval castle date back elsewhere in this first half of the xi th century . Located near the borders of three important provinces, this castle can only develop quickly and the stronghold of the lords of Laval prosper for more than five centuries.
Guy I first get married twice:
A first time around 1010/1015 with Bertha, probably a daughter of Roger I st Tosny . They had five children:
Jean de Laval, monk in Marmoutier.
Hamon de Laval .
Hildesinde from Laval.
Agnes of Laval.
Hildeburgis from Laval.
In his second marriage around 1030 , he married Rotrude de Château-du-Loir, daughter of Hamelin de Château-du-Loir and Hildeburge de Bellême. This marriage will make Guy de Laval the brother-in-law of Haimon de Mayenne and Bishop Gervais de Belleme
With Rotrude he had two children:
Gude Laval (died around 1067).
Gervais from Laval
Guy I st of Dénéré planned a pilgrimage to Jerusalem in 1039 [ref. necessary] [insufficient source] 2 .
Origin [ edit | modify the code ]
The origin of Guy I first Laval is the subject of historical controversy. The archivists paleographers Arthur-Bertrand de Boussillon and Robert Latouche , author of a thesis on the counts of Maine, are opposed, as well as the abbot Angot , on the question of the origin of the first Guy de Laval.
Latouche's conclusion, discussed by Abbé Angot, is that the two charters of Couture on which he relied to identify Guy de Danazeio 3 with Guy de Laval being false, and that nothing can be learned from them 4 . For the abbot Angot, the interpretation of the reasons which determined the drafting of articles of alleged false charter xi th century or the xii th century , is tricky 5. The monks, falsifiers or not, could have a more or less intact text of which they would have taken the historical framework and modified the passages concerning their rights, and which they would have completed by the addition of formulas and proper names, without worrying anachronisms 6 . Anyway, for Father Angot, Guy de Laval is indeed the same character as Guido de Danazeio .
A judgment is not contested, made in 1064 by William the Bastard , we learn that Guy I first Laval have given to the abbey of Marmoutier land in the suburb of Laval 7 .
Guy de Laval, who had given the church of Auvers first to Guérin, then after the death of the latter and the overthrow of his projects, gave it to the Abbey of Couture . In the country of his origin, Guy de Laval was still known under the name of Guido de Danazeio 8 .
The three acts, that of Guillaume le Bastard, which is authentic, and those of Couture that can be challenged, agree perfectly for the historical facts they relate. The relations of Laval and his lords with Auvers continued long after the foundation of the priory of Auvers 9 . The mention of the monk Guérin in the charter of religious of Couture is, for its part, proof that they were informed about the origins of their possessions.
Finally, Father Angot develops a positive reason for identifying Guy de Laval with Guido de Danazeio: it is that the children of Guy de Laval were Hamon, the one who gave his name to Auvers-le-Hamon, and Jean, who was a religious of Marmoutier. These are also the names of the children that are given to Guido de Danazeio. These encounters were not fortuitous at the same time, on the same ground; it is proof of an identity already indicated by so many other circumstances. For him, Guy de Laval is therefore from Champagne du Maine .
Captions [ edit | modify the code ]
The legend also relates that passing on the bridge which spanned the Mayenne at the foot of his castle, he fell with his mount and, seeing himself lost, recommended himself to the Virgin Mary. Mysteriously brought back to the shore, he was making a prayer of gratitude when, in the branches of an oak, the Blessed Virgin appeared to him. He built a chapel, called Notre-Dame d'Avesnières , and a monastery of nuns where his daughters entered. Pilgrims flocked in large numbers and the chapel, enlarged several times, gave way to a basilica completed by Count Guy V de Laval , the founder's great-grandson.
Notes and references [ edit | modify the code ]
↑ Genealogy of Guy Ier de Laval on the Medieval Lands website [ archive ]
↑ He is at the origin of a charter concerning Asnières-sur-Vègre, in favor of the chapter of the cathedral of Le Mans, November 11, 1039. There is question of a pilgrimage project to Jerusalem. Chartularium insignis ecclesiae Cenomanensis quod dicitur Liber albus capituli , n ° XLVIII.
↑ For Father Angot, Guy de Laval does not derive this first name from Denazé , in Anjou . For him, as it was necessary to look for a locality of Champagne du Maine, he had believed that it was Avessé , possession of Laval, and the form of the name made possible the derivation, with a fault easy to commit by a copyist, confusion of letters n and u. Robert Latouche indicates that there is in the Champagne of Maine an old seigneury of the name of Denezé and that this name could be the one which one still finds carried, in a charter of the Couture, by a Hamelinus [of] Denacé. Father Angot admits this hypothesis very well: Guy de Laval would have drawn his first name from Denezé, from Danazeio, instead of Avessé, Avazeio, which he had proposed.
↑ They were fabricated to xii th century , says Latouche, by the monks of the Abbey of Couture , to allocate taxing rights and useful in Auvers, during a trial where rights needed to be established, and the names of the figures involved were taken at random from the documents the monks might have on hand. Guy de Danazeio, in particular, could well be from the family of a Hamelinus de Denacé, cited in the Cartulaire de la Couture.
↑ He indicates that we could provide other explanations than those of M. Latouche. Similarly, the way in which the actors or witnesses would have been solicited, according to him, is very complicated.
↑ He adds that we can even maintain that the religious simply reconstructed from memory a document of which they no longer had the text.
↑ The monks of Couture intervened, protesting that this land depended on their church in Auvers , because Guy had given it to a monk named Guérin, on condition that it would depend on this church in Auvers. It is the opposite, replied Guy: I gave this land to the monk Guérin to build a monastery of which he was to be abbot, and to which he was to submit first of all the church of Auvers and all that he could acquire elsewhere . Some time later, Guy made the following oath before Guillaume le Bastard: I never wanted the land in dispute to be submitted to the church of Auvers, neither when I gave it to the monk Guérin, nor when I gave the church itself to the monks of Couture. - Abbé Angot translated in direct style to avoid any possibility of amphibology . He adds that we must know, to understand these successive donations, that the monk Guérin, during his projects to erect an abbey in the suburb of Laval, had died assassinated. The church, the only part of the monastery he had completed, still exists. After this tragic death, Guy de Laval gave the land in the suburb of Laval to the monks of Marmoutier; it is this land that the monks of Couture claimed . They did so in vain, because Guillaume le Bastard handed down a sentence in accordance with Guy de Laval's assertions and favorable to the Abbé de Marmoutier.
^ For Abbé Angot, if we admit the translation he offers of Guy de Laval's oath, and which he does not see how we would dispute, if Guy claims to have given the monks of La Couture the church of 'Auvers, his thesis is thereby proven. It is Guy de Laval who gave the church of Auvers to La Couture , it is he who is the founder of the priory. Father Angot does not suppose that we want to translate the text of Guy's oath so as to make the monk Guérin the donor of the church of Auvers. Moreover, it was done, that the relations between Laval and Auvers, between Guy de Laval and what was Champagnedu Maine, would still not seem obvious in the authentic text, and would still make certain the identification of Guy de Laval with Guido de Danazeio, by bringing together the judgment of William the Bastard and charters X and XI of the Cartulaire de Couture .
↑ In 1158 , when it was agreed that the Church of the Trinity of Laval would be served by four monks from Couture , it was stipulated that one of the four would be taken from the priory of Auvers, and sufficient income for its maintenance taken on the temporal of this same priory; Auvers-le-Hamon owes its nickname to one of Guy de Laval's sons; finally, Champagne du Maine remained for centuries in the feudalism of the lords of Laval.
Bibliography [ edit | modify the code ]
Abbot Angot , "Origin of Guy I first Laval: Response to Mr. Robert Latouche " in 1907 [1] [ archive ] * * The Bertrand Brousillon, Paul Fracy illustrations, House of Laval, 1020-1605, historical accompanied of the cartualire of Laval and of Vitré , Paris, Alphonse Picard, 1895, five volumes.
Events
| Birth | Bet 980 and 990 | ||||
| Marriage | Bet 1010 and 1015 | Bertha of Tosny | |||
| Death | 1062 |
Families
| Spouse | Bertha of Tosny ( - ) |
| Child | Hamon de Laval ( - 1076) |