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Honfroi Seigneur de Vielles
(980 - 28 Sep 1044)
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FMG called him "Honfroi de Vieilles". He is one of the Seigneurs de Pont-Audemar, Seigneur de Vieilles" line.
Son of Thorold de Pont-Audemar, Seigneur de Vieilles and his wife Wewa, sister of Gunnora (mistress of Richard I Duke of Normandy). Wewa also called "Gueuve". Honfroi died after 1040. He married Aubrey, whose parentage is UNKNOWN. They had four children:
Roger de Vieilles (d. 29 Nov 1094) founder of the line of COMTES de MEULAN, SEIGNEURS de BEAUMONT-le-ROGER, married to Adeline de Meulan
Robert de Vieilles (d. after 1066)
Guillaume de Vieilles
Dunelme de Vieilles (daughter and married with a daughter)
Sources and Notes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_de_Vielles The Wikipedia article is fairly close to Cawley Medieval Lands.
Humphrey (or Honfroy, Onfroi or Umfrid) de Vieilles
(died c. 1050) was the first holder of the "grand honneur" of Beaumont-le-Roger, one of the most important groups of domains in eastern Normandy and the founder of the House of Beaumont. He was married to Albreda or Alberée de la Haye Auberie.
His early life and origins are the subject of much discussion. As reported by later Norman chronicler Robert of Torigni, he was son of Thorold de Pont-Audemer and grandson of a Torf, from whose name derived that of the village of Tourville sur Pont Audemer.
Humphrey's mother, according to Robert of Torigni, was Duvelina, sister of Gunnora, concubine of Richard I, Duke of Normandy. Thus Humphrey and his Beaumont descendants were kinsmen of the Norman Dukes and other members of the early Anglo-Norman nobility similarly descended from Gunnora's kindred.
Besides Beaumont-le-Roger, he had lands dispersed through the whole of Normandy, in Cotentin, in Hiémois, in the Pays d'Auge, in Basse Seine (Vatteville-la-Rue), in Évrecin (Normanville) and in Vexin normand (Bouafles). These lands originated in the favour of the dukes Richard II and Robert II, from confiscated church lands. The "honneur" of Beaumont was, for example, constituted from the remains of the lands of the abbey of Bernay.[4] On the other hand, the possessions around Pont-Audemer came to him by family inheritance.
In 1034, he 'founded' (or, rather, restored) the monastery at Préaux, a few kilometres from Pont-Audemer, with monks from the Saint-Wandrille.
During the minority of Duke William the Bastard, Roger I of Tosny, holder of the "honneur" of Conches, attacked Humphrey's domains. But around 1040, Humphrey's son, Roger de Beumont, met and defeated Roger in battle, during which Roger was killed.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc279557202
HONFROI de Vieilles (-after [1040], bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre). He is named as son of Thorold by Orderic Vitalis[2645]. Seigneur de Vieilles et de Pont-Audemer, in Normandy. The Genealogia Fundatoris of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names ”Humfridum de Vetulis” as son of “Turulpho de Ponte-Adomaro” & his wife[2646].
He witnessed charters under Robert I Duke of Normandy. He founded the monasteries of Saint-Pierre before 1035 and Saint-Leger in [1040], both at Préaux, near Pont-Audemer2645. "…Humfridus constructor eiusdem loci cum filiis suis Rogerio, Roberto, Willelmo…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2647]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Roger du Ternois" [Tosny] fought "Honfroi de Vaux" during his rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy during the early years of the latter's reign[2648]. He became a monk at the former before he died[2649]. m AUBREY, daughter of ---. Robert of Torigny records that "Hunfridus de Vetulis, pater Rogerii de Bello Monte, et Albereda uxor eius" founded two monasteries, one for men the other for women, in "fundo Pratelli"[2650]. Honfroi & his wife had four children:
i) ROGER de Vieilles (-29 Nov 1094, bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre). "…Humfridus constructor eiusdem loci cum filiis suis Rogerio, Roberto, Willelmo…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2651]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Honfroi de Vaux" sent his son "Roger de Beaumont" to fight "Roger du Ternois" [Tosny] during the latter's rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy during the early years of the duke's reign[2652].
- COMTES de MEULAN.
ii) ROBERT de Vieilles (-after 1066, bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre2656). "…Humfridus constructor eiusdem loci cum filiis suis Rogerio, Roberto, Willelmo…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2653]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the proposed marriage of "Robertus comes Mellentinus" and the daughter of "Hugonis Crispeiensis comes" which was prohibited by "Yvo [episcopus]" on grounds of consanguinity, the mutual descent of the two parties from "Gauterus Albus de Albamarla" being set out in the chronicle[2654]. William I King of England gave him land in the Cotentin[2655]. He was killed by Roger de Clères according to Orderic Vitalis, who specifies that he was the son of Honfroi de Vieilles[2656].
Note: No parent is listed for HONFROY Seigneur de Vieilles in the Medieval Lands database. His wife is given as Aubrey. Listed only as father of Roger de Vieilles "Barbatus" [de Beaumont].
However, most Geni profile entries say that his parents were Thorold de Pont-Audemer and Wevia de Crepon. What are their sources??
FMG called him "Honfroi de Vieilles". He is one of the Seigneurs de Pont-Audemar, Seigneur de Vieilles" line.
Son of Thorold de Pont-Audemar, Seigneur de Vieilles and his wife Wewa, sister of Gunnora (mistress of Richard I Duke of Normandy). Wewa also called "Gueuve". Honfroi died after 1040. He married Aubrey, whose parentage is UNKNOWN. They had four children:
Roger de Vieilles (d. 29 Nov 1094) founder of the line of COMTES de MEULAN, SEIGNEURS de BEAUMONT-le-ROGER, married to Adeline de Meulan
Robert de Vieilles (d. after 1066)
Guillaume de Vieilles
Dunelme de Vieilles (daughter and married with a daughter)
Sources and Notes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_de_Vielles The Wikipedia article is fairly close to Cawley Medieval Lands.
Humphrey (or Honfroy, Onfroi or Umfrid) de Vieilles
(died c. 1050) was the first holder of the "grand honneur" of Beaumont-le-Roger, one of the most important groups of domains in eastern Normandy and the founder of the House of Beaumont. He was married to Albreda or Alberée de la Haye Auberie.
His early life and origins are the subject of much discussion. As reported by later Norman chronicler Robert of Torigni, he was son of Thorold de Pont-Audemer and grandson of a Torf, from whose name derived that of the village of Tourville sur Pont Audemer.
Humphrey's mother, according to Robert of Torigni, was Duvelina, sister of Gunnora, concubine of Richard I, Duke of Normandy. Thus Humphrey and his Beaumont descendants were kinsmen of the Norman Dukes and other members of the early Anglo-Norman nobility similarly descended from Gunnora's kindred.
Besides Beaumont-le-Roger, he had lands dispersed through the whole of Normandy, in Cotentin, in Hiémois, in the Pays d'Auge, in Basse Seine (Vatteville-la-Rue), in Évrecin (Normanville) and in Vexin normand (Bouafles). These lands originated in the favour of the dukes Richard II and Robert II, from confiscated church lands. The "honneur" of Beaumont was, for example, constituted from the remains of the lands of the abbey of Bernay.[4] On the other hand, the possessions around Pont-Audemer came to him by family inheritance.
In 1034, he 'founded' (or, rather, restored) the monastery at Préaux, a few kilometres from Pont-Audemer, with monks from the Saint-Wandrille.
During the minority of Duke William the Bastard, Roger I of Tosny, holder of the "honneur" of Conches, attacked Humphrey's domains. But around 1040, Humphrey's son, Roger de Beumont, met and defeated Roger in battle, during which Roger was killed.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc279557202
HONFROI de Vieilles (-after [1040], bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre). He is named as son of Thorold by Orderic Vitalis[2645]. Seigneur de Vieilles et de Pont-Audemer, in Normandy. The Genealogia Fundatoris of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names ”Humfridum de Vetulis” as son of “Turulpho de Ponte-Adomaro” & his wife[2646].
He witnessed charters under Robert I Duke of Normandy. He founded the monasteries of Saint-Pierre before 1035 and Saint-Leger in [1040], both at Préaux, near Pont-Audemer2645. "…Humfridus constructor eiusdem loci cum filiis suis Rogerio, Roberto, Willelmo…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2647]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Roger du Ternois" [Tosny] fought "Honfroi de Vaux" during his rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy during the early years of the latter's reign[2648]. He became a monk at the former before he died[2649]. m AUBREY, daughter of ---. Robert of Torigny records that "Hunfridus de Vetulis, pater Rogerii de Bello Monte, et Albereda uxor eius" founded two monasteries, one for men the other for women, in "fundo Pratelli"[2650]. Honfroi & his wife had four children:
i) ROGER de Vieilles (-29 Nov 1094, bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre). "…Humfridus constructor eiusdem loci cum filiis suis Rogerio, Roberto, Willelmo…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2651]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Honfroi de Vaux" sent his son "Roger de Beaumont" to fight "Roger du Ternois" [Tosny] during the latter's rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy during the early years of the duke's reign[2652].
- COMTES de MEULAN.
ii) ROBERT de Vieilles (-after 1066, bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre2656). "…Humfridus constructor eiusdem loci cum filiis suis Rogerio, Roberto, Willelmo…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2653]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the proposed marriage of "Robertus comes Mellentinus" and the daughter of "Hugonis Crispeiensis comes" which was prohibited by "Yvo [episcopus]" on grounds of consanguinity, the mutual descent of the two parties from "Gauterus Albus de Albamarla" being set out in the chronicle[2654]. William I King of England gave him land in the Cotentin[2655]. He was killed by Roger de Clères according to Orderic Vitalis, who specifies that he was the son of Honfroi de Vieilles[2656].
Note: No parent is listed for HONFROY Seigneur de Vieilles in the Medieval Lands database. His wife is given as Aubrey. Listed only as father of Roger de Vieilles "Barbatus" [de Beaumont].
However, most Geni profile entries say that his parents were Thorold de Pont-Audemer and Wevia de Crepon. What are their sources??
Events
| Birth | 980 | Normandy, France | |||
| Death | 28 Sep 1044 | Basse-Normandie, France | |||
| Marriage | Auberee De La Haye Dame de Brothoune |
Families
| Spouse | Auberee De La Haye Dame de Brothoune (984 - 1045) |
| Child | Albreda De Harcourt (1027 - 1052) |
| Father | Thorold Seigneur de Pont-Audemer (949 - 1040) |
| Mother | Woerta De Crepon (952 - ) |