Individual Details
John TILLEY
(19 Dec 1571 - 10 Apr 1621)
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A 1620 Mayflower passenger, John Tilley arrived at Plymouth with his wife Joan (Hurst), his daughter Elizabeth Tilley, and his
brother Edward Tilley, q.v. A most valuable discovery by Robert Leigh
Ward, "English Ancestry of Seven Mayflower Passengers," TAG 52:198, gives
the Tilley origin in Herflow, Bedfordshire, and shows that John and
Edward were the sons of Robert and Elizabeth ( ) Tilley. John and his
wife left children in Bedfordshire who could conceivably have left
descendants, though none living today is yet known. This article, plus
Ward's subsequent articles, "Henry Sampson's Paternal Grandfather," TAG
56:141; "Further Traces of John Tilley of the Mayflower," TAG 60;171; and
"The Baronial Ancestry of Henry Sampson, Humility Cooper, and Ann
(Cooper) Tilley," TG 6:166, show much interrelationship among the
Tilleys, Coopers, Sampsons, and Hursts. There were Hursts, also, living
in Leiden (see under James Hurst), and Bangs's Pilgrims, p. 16, shows
that a John Masterson, a Separatist who remained at Leiden, also came
frorn Hentow, Bedfordshire. George E. Bowman, "Jan Tellij of Leyden Was
Not John Tilley of the Mayflower," MD 10:65, comments on a record of a
person with a similar name in Holland. Robert L. French, "John Tilley,
Jr., 1599-1636," MQ 49:16, suggests that a John Tilley who appeared at
Cape Ann was a son of the Mayflower John Tilley, but proof is lacking.
Source: Plymouth Colony Its History & People 1620 - 1691 by Eugene
Aubrey Stratton
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John Tilley, his wife Joan (Hurst) Rogers, and daughter Elizabeth came on
the Mayflower. John and Joan died the first winter, but Elizabeth lived,
married John Howland, and had eleven children. John's brother Edward
Tilley came with wife Ann Cooper on the Mayflower as well.
John Tilley did not marry Prijntgen (Elizabeth) van der Velde in
Holland. That was easily disproved in Mayflower Descendant 10:66-67, and
by the subsequent identification of Joan (Hurst) Rogers. Also note that
the article in the Mayflower Quarterly 49:16+ entitled "John Tilley Jr,
1599-1636" presents a theory as to what happened to John Tilley's son
John, but the article has been criticized as presenting no proof but just
speculations (Wakefield in MD 43:76; Stratton p. 362).
John's wife Joan is the daughter of William Hurst and Rose (---). William
was born c1530, and died before 1571. He lived in Henlow, Bedford,
England. Joan Hurst was baptized in Henlow, Bedford, England on 13 March
1567/8. She married first Thomas Rogers (no known relation to Thomas
Rogers of the Mayflower), and second
John Tilley.
The known ancestry of John Tilley is as follows (from The American
Genealogist 52:198-208):
Henry Tilley, b. c1465, d. 1520 === Johan (---)
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Thomas Tilley, b. c1490, d. 1556 === Margaret (---)
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William Tilley, b. c1515, d. Jan. 1578/9 === Agnes (---)
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Robert Tilley, b. c1540, d. Feb. 1612/3 === Elizabeth (---)
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John Tilley, Mayflower passenger
John Tilley came on the Mayflower with his wife Joan and daughter
Elizabeth. John's brother Edward Tilley also came on the Mayflower.
SOURCES:
Robert Leigh Ward, "English Ancestry of Seven Mayflower Passengers:
Tilley, Sampson, and Cooper,"
The American Genealogist 52:198-208.
Robert Leigh Ward, "The Baronial Ancestry of Henry Sampson, Humility
Cooper, and Ann (Cooper) Tilley," The
Genealogist 6:166-186.
Robert Leigh Ward, "Further Traces of John Tilley of the Mayflower," The
American Genealogist
60(1984):171-173.
George E. Bowman, "Jan Tellij of Leyden was Not John Tilley of the
Mayflower," Mayflower Descendant
10:66-67.
Elizabeth Pearson White, John Howland of the Mayflower through Desire
Howland for Five Generations,
vol. 1 (Camden: Picton Press, 1990).
A 1620 Mayflower passenger, John Tilley arrived at Plymouth with his wife Joan (Hurst), his daughter Elizabeth Tilley, and his
brother Edward Tilley, q.v. A most valuable discovery by Robert Leigh
Ward, "English Ancestry of Seven Mayflower Passengers," TAG 52:198, gives
the Tilley origin in Herflow, Bedfordshire, and shows that John and
Edward were the sons of Robert and Elizabeth ( ) Tilley. John and his
wife left children in Bedfordshire who could conceivably have left
descendants, though none living today is yet known. This article, plus
Ward's subsequent articles, "Henry Sampson's Paternal Grandfather," TAG
56:141; "Further Traces of John Tilley of the Mayflower," TAG 60;171; and
"The Baronial Ancestry of Henry Sampson, Humility Cooper, and Ann
(Cooper) Tilley," TG 6:166, show much interrelationship among the
Tilleys, Coopers, Sampsons, and Hursts. There were Hursts, also, living
in Leiden (see under James Hurst), and Bangs's Pilgrims, p. 16, shows
that a John Masterson, a Separatist who remained at Leiden, also came
frorn Hentow, Bedfordshire. George E. Bowman, "Jan Tellij of Leyden Was
Not John Tilley of the Mayflower," MD 10:65, comments on a record of a
person with a similar name in Holland. Robert L. French, "John Tilley,
Jr., 1599-1636," MQ 49:16, suggests that a John Tilley who appeared at
Cape Ann was a son of the Mayflower John Tilley, but proof is lacking.
Source: Plymouth Colony Its History & People 1620 - 1691 by Eugene
Aubrey Stratton
==========================================================================
=====================================
John Tilley, his wife Joan (Hurst) Rogers, and daughter Elizabeth came on
the Mayflower. John and Joan died the first winter, but Elizabeth lived,
married John Howland, and had eleven children. John's brother Edward
Tilley came with wife Ann Cooper on the Mayflower as well.
John Tilley did not marry Prijntgen (Elizabeth) van der Velde in
Holland. That was easily disproved in Mayflower Descendant 10:66-67, and
by the subsequent identification of Joan (Hurst) Rogers. Also note that
the article in the Mayflower Quarterly 49:16+ entitled "John Tilley Jr,
1599-1636" presents a theory as to what happened to John Tilley's son
John, but the article has been criticized as presenting no proof but just
speculations (Wakefield in MD 43:76; Stratton p. 362).
John's wife Joan is the daughter of William Hurst and Rose (---). William
was born c1530, and died before 1571. He lived in Henlow, Bedford,
England. Joan Hurst was baptized in Henlow, Bedford, England on 13 March
1567/8. She married first Thomas Rogers (no known relation to Thomas
Rogers of the Mayflower), and second
John Tilley.
The known ancestry of John Tilley is as follows (from The American
Genealogist 52:198-208):
Henry Tilley, b. c1465, d. 1520 === Johan (---)
|
Thomas Tilley, b. c1490, d. 1556 === Margaret (---)
|
William Tilley, b. c1515, d. Jan. 1578/9 === Agnes (---)
|
Robert Tilley, b. c1540, d. Feb. 1612/3 === Elizabeth (---)
|
John Tilley, Mayflower passenger
John Tilley came on the Mayflower with his wife Joan and daughter
Elizabeth. John's brother Edward Tilley also came on the Mayflower.
SOURCES:
Robert Leigh Ward, "English Ancestry of Seven Mayflower Passengers:
Tilley, Sampson, and Cooper,"
The American Genealogist 52:198-208.
Robert Leigh Ward, "The Baronial Ancestry of Henry Sampson, Humility
Cooper, and Ann (Cooper) Tilley," The
Genealogist 6:166-186.
Robert Leigh Ward, "Further Traces of John Tilley of the Mayflower," The
American Genealogist
60(1984):171-173.
George E. Bowman, "Jan Tellij of Leyden was Not John Tilley of the
Mayflower," Mayflower Descendant
10:66-67.
Elizabeth Pearson White, John Howland of the Mayflower through Desire
Howland for Five Generations,
vol. 1 (Camden: Picton Press, 1990).
Events
| Birth | 19 Dec 1571 | Henlow, Bedfordshire, England |  | ||
| Marriage | 29 Sep 1596 | Henlow, Bedfordshire, England - Joan HURST | | ||
| Death | 10 Apr 1621 | Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts Bay, British America | |
Families
| Spouse | Joan HURST ( - 1620) |
| Child | Elizabeth TILLEY (1607 - 1687) |