Individual Details
John Marshall Jr
(1857 - )
1862 Allotment #132
Delaware Census #236
Dawes #193D
Census #181D
Raised by Anna Grinter
Between 1867-1875 John Marshall lived at Parsons. He was a minor and W. H. Grinter was his guardian in Wyondotte co. Kansas. In 1880 he lived in the Delaware District on Bolin Ford about 15 miles from Vinita, Indian Territory. He never married.
March 30, 1875: It has been said that John Marshall and Elizabeth/Betsy Marshall, his Grandmother, may have came together into Indian Territory. She died in October of that year. (not proven)
October 18, 1900: Department of the Interior. commission to the Five Civilized Tribes. Nowata, I.T. In the matter of application of John Marshall for enrollment as a citizen of the Cherokee Natio, and he being swor and examined by Commissioner, T.B. Needles, testified as follows: John Marshall, 43 years old to the best of my knowledge. My post office address is Nowata and living in the Cooweescoowee District. Delaware blood. Never lived in the Canadian District. My census was taken in Delaware District in 1880. Father's name: John Marshall. Not living. He died before we came to this country. Mother's name: Lucy Marshall. Not living. I came to this country March 30, 1875. I pretty much live near here all the time. I have not been out more than a year at a time. He didn't know if he was listed on the roll of 1880. He said his census was taken in Delaware District, but they must have scrathedit off after they got to Tahlequah, Joe Thompson took my name and he told me he would see to it. So I did not employ any one to do it. Note: 1896 roll, page 378, #464, John Marshall, Coo. District) Mr. Henry Armstrong testified on this same date:that he knew John's father, John Marshall, but didn't know his mother. She had already died. He said that he had known John for about thirty years. His mother Lucy died before his father did. They placed John Marshall on a doubtful card.
June 24, 1901: Department of the Interior, Commission of the Five Civilized Tribes, Nowata, I.T. Supplemental Testimony in the case of John Marshall, Delaware Doubtful No. 15. John Marshall being swon by Commission T.B. Needles, testified as follows: Applicant's attorney, W.A. Chase, present. Cherokee Representative, W.W. Hastings, present. Q & A: John Marshall, Are you the John Marshall who applied for enrollment at Nowata last Octoer. Yes sir. You desire to give some additional testimoney now do you: Yes sir. W.W. Chase "I desire to file a list of Delaware Indians wo came to the Cherokee Nation under the treaty." By Com'r Needles: The applicant present by his attorney, a roll of Delaware who are supposed to have come to the Cherokee Nation under the treaty of 1867, and on No. 401 thereof is found the name John Marshall. Attention is however called to the fact by the representative for the Cherokee Nation, that is is not definitely shown that this is the John Marshall applied for, as he in his testimony states that he came here in 1875 and this roll was made in 1866, the same purporting to be a roll of Delaware Indians who came to the Cherokee Nation under the treaty made of that date. By W A. Chase of the applicant: Q & A Where were you between 1867 and 1875? At Parson. What was you doing then? I was a minor them. Who was your guardian? W.H. Grinter. Where did he live? Wyandotte County Kansas. Have you lived here since 1875? Yes sir. What District did you live in in 1880? Delaware District. Have you always been a recognized citizen since you came here? Yes Sir. Did you have a sister that was on the treaty rolls? Two sisters. What are their names? Rosie andMary. What was Mary called besides that? Polly. Do you know how her name appears on the roll? No sir. W.W. Hastings: Where have you been living since you came here? I have been living part of the time in Delaware District and over here in Cooweescoowee. How old are you now? 44. What place did you live in Delaware District, hows far from Vinita? About 15 miles on the Bolin Ford. When did you live there? 1881. Where have you lived since? Over in this district. Always in the Cherokee Nation? all but 11 months. Where were you then? In Oklahoma Territory. Where were you married? Haven't married.
Summary of William Adams, Witness: 65 years old, Alowee post office, Lived in Cherokee Nation since 1868. A citizen of the Cherokee Nation. Delaware by blood. I have known him (John Marshall)since infancy. He came when the rest of the Delawares came to the country. ... Hastings asked: When did the Delaware come to the Territory: long about 1868. some of them came here first in 1867 and went back and then came here and located in 1868. And this applicant came with them? Yes sir. And has lived here ever sincea: He has made his home in this country ever since. Where did you see him in 1868. On Virdigris River. Who did he live with in 1868. James Commer. Was he here in 1869? Well that part I will not try to answer, I settled on Russel Creek near Chetopa Kansas and I dont' know where he was about thaat time, but I saw him in my rounds all the time before and after. You lived a great ways from him then? I lived on Russell creek then and he was down at James Commer's the last time I saw him. Are you are preacher? Yes sir. and it was in my rounds as such that I saw this man in the Cherokee Nation, as I went among my people preaching. And you are certain you saw him from 1868 off andon up until 1875? He was one of the Treaty Delawares? Yes sir. John Secondine was sworn in by Chase: Summary: John Secondine, age 50, Postoffice: Whiteoak, Delaware Indian. He said he knew John Marshall a good many years, knowed him ever since he was a boy. Knew him in Kansas. He supposed he came with the Delaware treaty. Did he come here when the Delawares did? Now that is something I don't know, if he did come here; it was this way, he was an orphan, and there was some of our people in Kansas who became citizens of gthe United States, some of the Delawares. Well, did he stay there part of the time It is my understanding that there was some kind of guardianship over this boy. When did he come to the Territory as you understand it? I don't know exactly when he did come. Did he come here as early as 1875? Yes sir I think it was along through 1875-1876. Has he lived here in the Territory every since that time? Yes sir. I suppose he did go to the Osage country to work, but not fo long. Then he has really lived here in the CHerokee Nation since 1875? Yes sir. Has he been a recognized citizen since then? Yes sir. The first time you saw him was in 1875 or 1876? Yes sir. You are out among the Delaware a good deal dont you? Yes sir.
April 5, 1902: Department of the Interior, Commission to the Five Civilizeds Tribes, Miskogee, I.T. Mary C. Bezion was sworn in: Summary: age 53, lived close to the Delaware Station in the Cherokee Nation. She knew John Marshall ever since he was a little boy. He was born in Wyandotte County, Kansas. She knew he had brothers and sisters. Rosy Marshall, and Polly Marshall and William Henry Marshall (also called Washer) Also called Conner.She knew he was left in charge of his guardian in Kansas. She remembered seeing John Marshall in the Cherokee Nation in 1875. She knew he didn't come with the Delawares in the treaty because he was a young boy. He came 7 or 8 years afterwards. John Bullette was sworn in: Summary: age 50, Claremore,I.T. Cherokee Citizen by Delaware blood. He knows Delaware John Marshll. He has known him since he was 5 or 6 years old. Named William H. (Washer) Marshall, Rosanna Marshall, Rosy and Rosanna they called her. He didn't come when the Delaware came, he came later. He was a minor, and we were all minors as far as that's concerned. His father died and old man Grinder (Grinter) took the guardianship of them. John Marshall remained with him and then came to the Cherokee Nation. He said he knew John ranged all the way from Nowata to Grand River in that section of the country. Hesated that he knew that John Marshall's father, (John M. Marshall) died before the treaty and had been dead some time.
November 20, 1902: Cherokee-Delaware D15 Department of the Interior, Commission to the Five Civilized Tries. In the matter of the application of John Marshall for the enrollment of himself as a citizen of the Cherokee Nation of Dewawere blood. Decision: (summary) They noted that evidence shows that John Marshall is a Delaware Indian, an adopted citizen of the Cherokee Nation. His name appears upon the Register of Delaware who removed to the Cherokee Nation pursuant to the terms of the Cherokee-Delaware agreement of April 8, 1867. The name of Hohn Marshall cannot be found upon the Cherokee authenticated tribal roll of 1880 but he is identified on the Cherokee Census roll of 1896 and on the Delaware Pay roll of 1896. His name is also found on various Delaware Annuity pay rolls in the possession of this Commission. The evidence shows that John Marshall has lived cosntinuously in the Cherokee Nation since the year 1875, expect for one period of about 11 months. It is therefore, the opinion of this Commission that John Marshall should be enrolled as a citizen of the Cherokee Nation of Delaware blood in accordance with the provisions of Section twenty-one of the Act of Congress approved June 28, 1898 (30 stats., 495), and it is so ordered.
He had a very difficult time applying for his citizenship to the Cherokee Nation, but he was finally granted for enrollment of himself as a citizen of the Cherokee Nation of Delaware blood on November 20, 1902.
November 20, 1902: Granted. Cherokee Nation, Delaware Roll:Field No. 181. Cooweescoowee District, Post Office: Nowata, I.T.. Age 43, 3/4 blood degree. Father: John (M.) Marshall, Delaware Indian, Dead. Mother: Lucy Marshall, Delaware Indian, dead.
Delaware Census #236
Dawes #193D
Census #181D
Raised by Anna Grinter
Between 1867-1875 John Marshall lived at Parsons. He was a minor and W. H. Grinter was his guardian in Wyondotte co. Kansas. In 1880 he lived in the Delaware District on Bolin Ford about 15 miles from Vinita, Indian Territory. He never married.
March 30, 1875: It has been said that John Marshall and Elizabeth/Betsy Marshall, his Grandmother, may have came together into Indian Territory. She died in October of that year. (not proven)
October 18, 1900: Department of the Interior. commission to the Five Civilized Tribes. Nowata, I.T. In the matter of application of John Marshall for enrollment as a citizen of the Cherokee Natio, and he being swor and examined by Commissioner, T.B. Needles, testified as follows: John Marshall, 43 years old to the best of my knowledge. My post office address is Nowata and living in the Cooweescoowee District. Delaware blood. Never lived in the Canadian District. My census was taken in Delaware District in 1880. Father's name: John Marshall. Not living. He died before we came to this country. Mother's name: Lucy Marshall. Not living. I came to this country March 30, 1875. I pretty much live near here all the time. I have not been out more than a year at a time. He didn't know if he was listed on the roll of 1880. He said his census was taken in Delaware District, but they must have scrathedit off after they got to Tahlequah, Joe Thompson took my name and he told me he would see to it. So I did not employ any one to do it. Note: 1896 roll, page 378, #464, John Marshall, Coo. District) Mr. Henry Armstrong testified on this same date:that he knew John's father, John Marshall, but didn't know his mother. She had already died. He said that he had known John for about thirty years. His mother Lucy died before his father did. They placed John Marshall on a doubtful card.
June 24, 1901: Department of the Interior, Commission of the Five Civilized Tribes, Nowata, I.T. Supplemental Testimony in the case of John Marshall, Delaware Doubtful No. 15. John Marshall being swon by Commission T.B. Needles, testified as follows: Applicant's attorney, W.A. Chase, present. Cherokee Representative, W.W. Hastings, present. Q & A: John Marshall, Are you the John Marshall who applied for enrollment at Nowata last Octoer. Yes sir. You desire to give some additional testimoney now do you: Yes sir. W.W. Chase "I desire to file a list of Delaware Indians wo came to the Cherokee Nation under the treaty." By Com'r Needles: The applicant present by his attorney, a roll of Delaware who are supposed to have come to the Cherokee Nation under the treaty of 1867, and on No. 401 thereof is found the name John Marshall. Attention is however called to the fact by the representative for the Cherokee Nation, that is is not definitely shown that this is the John Marshall applied for, as he in his testimony states that he came here in 1875 and this roll was made in 1866, the same purporting to be a roll of Delaware Indians who came to the Cherokee Nation under the treaty made of that date. By W A. Chase of the applicant: Q & A Where were you between 1867 and 1875? At Parson. What was you doing then? I was a minor them. Who was your guardian? W.H. Grinter. Where did he live? Wyandotte County Kansas. Have you lived here since 1875? Yes sir. What District did you live in in 1880? Delaware District. Have you always been a recognized citizen since you came here? Yes Sir. Did you have a sister that was on the treaty rolls? Two sisters. What are their names? Rosie andMary. What was Mary called besides that? Polly. Do you know how her name appears on the roll? No sir. W.W. Hastings: Where have you been living since you came here? I have been living part of the time in Delaware District and over here in Cooweescoowee. How old are you now? 44. What place did you live in Delaware District, hows far from Vinita? About 15 miles on the Bolin Ford. When did you live there? 1881. Where have you lived since? Over in this district. Always in the Cherokee Nation? all but 11 months. Where were you then? In Oklahoma Territory. Where were you married? Haven't married.
Summary of William Adams, Witness: 65 years old, Alowee post office, Lived in Cherokee Nation since 1868. A citizen of the Cherokee Nation. Delaware by blood. I have known him (John Marshall)since infancy. He came when the rest of the Delawares came to the country. ... Hastings asked: When did the Delaware come to the Territory: long about 1868. some of them came here first in 1867 and went back and then came here and located in 1868. And this applicant came with them? Yes sir. And has lived here ever sincea: He has made his home in this country ever since. Where did you see him in 1868. On Virdigris River. Who did he live with in 1868. James Commer. Was he here in 1869? Well that part I will not try to answer, I settled on Russel Creek near Chetopa Kansas and I dont' know where he was about thaat time, but I saw him in my rounds all the time before and after. You lived a great ways from him then? I lived on Russell creek then and he was down at James Commer's the last time I saw him. Are you are preacher? Yes sir. and it was in my rounds as such that I saw this man in the Cherokee Nation, as I went among my people preaching. And you are certain you saw him from 1868 off andon up until 1875? He was one of the Treaty Delawares? Yes sir. John Secondine was sworn in by Chase: Summary: John Secondine, age 50, Postoffice: Whiteoak, Delaware Indian. He said he knew John Marshall a good many years, knowed him ever since he was a boy. Knew him in Kansas. He supposed he came with the Delaware treaty. Did he come here when the Delawares did? Now that is something I don't know, if he did come here; it was this way, he was an orphan, and there was some of our people in Kansas who became citizens of gthe United States, some of the Delawares. Well, did he stay there part of the time It is my understanding that there was some kind of guardianship over this boy. When did he come to the Territory as you understand it? I don't know exactly when he did come. Did he come here as early as 1875? Yes sir I think it was along through 1875-1876. Has he lived here in the Territory every since that time? Yes sir. I suppose he did go to the Osage country to work, but not fo long. Then he has really lived here in the CHerokee Nation since 1875? Yes sir. Has he been a recognized citizen since then? Yes sir. The first time you saw him was in 1875 or 1876? Yes sir. You are out among the Delaware a good deal dont you? Yes sir.
April 5, 1902: Department of the Interior, Commission to the Five Civilizeds Tribes, Miskogee, I.T. Mary C. Bezion was sworn in: Summary: age 53, lived close to the Delaware Station in the Cherokee Nation. She knew John Marshall ever since he was a little boy. He was born in Wyandotte County, Kansas. She knew he had brothers and sisters. Rosy Marshall, and Polly Marshall and William Henry Marshall (also called Washer) Also called Conner.She knew he was left in charge of his guardian in Kansas. She remembered seeing John Marshall in the Cherokee Nation in 1875. She knew he didn't come with the Delawares in the treaty because he was a young boy. He came 7 or 8 years afterwards. John Bullette was sworn in: Summary: age 50, Claremore,I.T. Cherokee Citizen by Delaware blood. He knows Delaware John Marshll. He has known him since he was 5 or 6 years old. Named William H. (Washer) Marshall, Rosanna Marshall, Rosy and Rosanna they called her. He didn't come when the Delaware came, he came later. He was a minor, and we were all minors as far as that's concerned. His father died and old man Grinder (Grinter) took the guardianship of them. John Marshall remained with him and then came to the Cherokee Nation. He said he knew John ranged all the way from Nowata to Grand River in that section of the country. Hesated that he knew that John Marshall's father, (John M. Marshall) died before the treaty and had been dead some time.
November 20, 1902: Cherokee-Delaware D15 Department of the Interior, Commission to the Five Civilized Tries. In the matter of the application of John Marshall for the enrollment of himself as a citizen of the Cherokee Nation of Dewawere blood. Decision: (summary) They noted that evidence shows that John Marshall is a Delaware Indian, an adopted citizen of the Cherokee Nation. His name appears upon the Register of Delaware who removed to the Cherokee Nation pursuant to the terms of the Cherokee-Delaware agreement of April 8, 1867. The name of Hohn Marshall cannot be found upon the Cherokee authenticated tribal roll of 1880 but he is identified on the Cherokee Census roll of 1896 and on the Delaware Pay roll of 1896. His name is also found on various Delaware Annuity pay rolls in the possession of this Commission. The evidence shows that John Marshall has lived cosntinuously in the Cherokee Nation since the year 1875, expect for one period of about 11 months. It is therefore, the opinion of this Commission that John Marshall should be enrolled as a citizen of the Cherokee Nation of Delaware blood in accordance with the provisions of Section twenty-one of the Act of Congress approved June 28, 1898 (30 stats., 495), and it is so ordered.
He had a very difficult time applying for his citizenship to the Cherokee Nation, but he was finally granted for enrollment of himself as a citizen of the Cherokee Nation of Delaware blood on November 20, 1902.
November 20, 1902: Granted. Cherokee Nation, Delaware Roll:Field No. 181. Cooweescoowee District, Post Office: Nowata, I.T.. Age 43, 3/4 blood degree. Father: John (M.) Marshall, Delaware Indian, Dead. Mother: Lucy Marshall, Delaware Indian, dead.
Events
| Birth | 1857 | ||||
| 1862 Allotment | 1862 | 1862 Allotment #132 - Wyandotte, Kansas, United States |
Families
| Father | John M. Marshall (1825 - 1861) |
| Mother | Lucy Connor (1827 - 1893) |
| Sibling | Charles "*" Marshall (1845 - ) |
| Sibling | Rosanna Marshall (1845 - 1898) |
| Sibling | William Henry "Washa" Marshall (1853 - 1899) |
| Sibling | Anna Marshall (1854 - ) |
| Sibling | Polly Marshall (1859 - ) |