Individual Details
Ella Frances HILTON
(2 Feb 1893 - 10 Apr 1998)
Ella Hilton Wooll
On December 26th 1985, 34 year old Norm Stulz Sr.videotaped an interview of his 93 year old Grandmother Ella Wooll. She discusses in great clarity the story of how her family arrived in Michigan, and the amazing period of time and technological advancement she has lived through having been born in 1893 and living as an eyewitness to the great inventions of our time, as well as some of the greatest tragedies. Ella also shares with us her opinions on life now compared to the way people lived in the past.
At 93 years old, Ella speaks, hears and sees very well. She conducts her interview sitting upright at a dining room table with her fingers crossed in front of her. During chat, she splits between eye contact with Norm and looking into the air as she recalls her memories. She frequently uses hand gestures as she speaks.
Norm: Hi there. This is the day after Christmas, December 26th 1985. We’re here with a very special guest. This is Ella Hilton Wooll, and she’s going to tell a little bit about my side of the family. We’ll have a beer or two and tell the story about how we came to Michigan.
Norm: What year were you born?
Ella: I was born in a little town called Anson, Maine on a farm in 1893 on Feb 2nd to Emilia and Calvin E. Hilton. I lived on the farm until I was 10 years old and my father’s health failed. We moved into Madison, Maine which was a small town just across the Kennebec River from Anson. My father worked as an insurance agent there for some time. My mother was originally from Michigan and in 1909 my mother’s father died and left a saw mill at Lake Leelanau, Michigan. My father had been visiting here and enjoyed the country. So they moved here..he bought the mill. In 1910 we moved to Michigan to live and at that time I saw Haley’s comet in Danvers, Massachusetts when we were on our way to Michigan.
Norm: What did it look like?
Ella: It looked like a star with a long long tail…many tails, and it was very bright. But in June of that year it was very close to the horizon. We arrived in Michigan in June and it was very cold. We lived in my mother’s fathers home for a number of years.
Norm: So that was your grandfather?
Ella: That was my grandfather.
Norm: What was his name, do you remember?
Ella: His name was Lewis Mosier. Then in 1915 I was married to Judson Wooll of Detroit Michigan. In 1917 our first son was born, Alfred Calvin. In 1918 we had a darling baby boy who passed away (choking up a bit) at birth. In 1922 we had a baby girl who passed away at birth. In 1925 we had another girl, Betty Jayne Wooll and I don’t know the year she was married.
Norm: I don’t know either. I know the guy she married. (She chuckles…it was his father, Quintus Stulz)
Ella: But ah…my son married and then about 3 years later my daughter was married. In 1952 my husband passed away. I lived in Detroit Michigan at that time and worked for the Detroit board of Education. I stayed there in the home for 2 years after his death, then I moved to Highland Michigan. There I became very active in civic activities and enjoyed my home there very very much. In 1980 I moved to Elk Rapids Michigan were I’ve become very active in church work and in knitting for the community center, mittens for the poor children and they are given to them to keep their little hands warm during the winter.
Tonight I am at my grandsons (she chokes up again) home in Holly Michigan enjoying my family.
Norm: How old are you now? You’re up around 93?
Ella: On February 2nd, 1986 I will be 93 years old.
Norm: Still Drives…
Ella: I still drive my car.
Norm: Do you remember when there weren’t cars? Do you remember before cars?
Ella: Oh I can remember when the first car came out. They called it a wagon without a horse at that time.
Norm: What year was that, do you remember?
Ella: Oh I couldn’t remember the year.
Norm: Early 1900’s
Ella: the early 1900’s.
Norm: Did you always have radio? When you were a child, did you listen to the radio?
Ella: No. We had no radio. The first radio that I ever knew, my brother had what they called a galena set. You of the older generation will know what I mean.
The first station that we could get was WLW in Philadelphia,Pennsylvania. It was the only station that we could get at that time.
Norm: How old were you then?
Ella: …and I was about 11 years old then. And, ah, of course from then on radio, and then of course the television appeared. First the black and white and then the colored television, which was a great thing for people.
Norm: Did they think…Do you remember them talking about television? Do you remember when television first started…if they thought it would work or they didn’t think it would ever go anywhere?
Ella: No. They thought it would be impossible for people to talk to the public and not be able to get a response. But then they didn’t think it would work...one way conversation. But of course very shortly they found out that it would work very beautifully. (Ella smiles)
Norm: How about airplanes? Do you remember airplanes coming around?
Ella: I cannot remember the first airplane, but I can remember the first time that I flew in an airplane. It was what they called a single wing. They just had one wing, and it only held one person. And they charged $15 for two minutes up in the air. (she giggles). And we flew over just around the vicinity of Madison, Maine.
Norm: Were you a little girl then?
Ella: And I was a very small child, I can’t remember. I was probably 15 or 16 years old. But that was a great thing then because…well, people were flying then. I remember when Limberg crossed the Atlantic.
Norm: The Titanic. Do you remember when that went down?
Ella: I remember the Titanic very well because we had a radio at that time, and we listened to it way far into the night to see what the result of the Titanic sinking was to be.
Norm: So they knew that it was going down?
Ella: We knew that it was going down and we heard about them playing…what was it? The song they played. I can’t remember what the name of the piece was but that was what the band played…it was a hymn of some kind but I can’t remember the name of it… “Jesus Lover of my Soul”.
Norm: That was the name of it?
Ella: That was the name of it. And the band was playing standing up with water up to their knees.
Norm: (gasps) Oh geez. You lived through the roaring twenties. You were raising your family in the roaring twenties.
Ella: I lived through the roaring twenties. We wore long skirts then.
Norm: Was it as wild as it’s depicted in the movies.
Ella: Well…I don’t think the conditions might have been almost as bad. Of course we didn’t have cigarettes the same as they do now and the young people never indulged in alcoholic drinks, and you NEVER heard of dope. I don’t think that at that time the young people were so indulgent in those kind of things. But they had their wild parties of course. And the horse and buggies would take them around and you would hear of young people being dumped out with their horses running away and things of that kind.
But, ah….of course the conditions were not as they are today. Young people had to work and their entertainment was somebody…a lot of young people gathering in a home, and somebody would play the piano and they would sing. Or they would play cards or they would play games. Charades and so forth…post office.
Norm: That one I had heard about but nobody would let me play. (she laughs out loud) Do you think that life has gotten continually better? I mean we’re in 1985 now, you were born in 1890 something.
Ella: I came from 1893
Norm: Are things getting better…or did we pass it? Was it 1930 something that was the best?
Ella: My own opinion is this: That I do not think that young people are taught responsibility the way they were 50 years ago or 60 years ago, because at that time young people had to be responsible for themselves. Now, they are given whatever they want. They are not made, or know how to take care of themselves or to have responsibility.
Norm: So you think that we should instill more responsibility into our children?
Ella: I think that every child should have a duty to perform, and they should be made to carry out that duty. They should be given chores to do and no matter what happened, a ball game…or something where they wanted to visit or something of that sort. This chore or whatever duty you gave them to do should be done first. That’s my opinion.
Harold Shepherd (Norm’s father-in-law who was filming chimes in) “I agree with you Grandma” , and everyone in the room chuckles.
Norm: Sounds like a learned opinion. Well thank you. I hope that my grandchildren will see this and know who Ella Hilton Wooll is and what things were like all the way back to the 1800’s. Thank you very much (He gives her a kiss)
Ella lived another 12 years after this interview, surrounded by her family. As technology continued to change, the original VHS videotape of this interview became obsolete with the advent of DVD’s and the internet…and was buried in a container in Norm’s home on 15207 Seeley Drive in Holly, Michigan. Believed to be lost, It was re-discovered again by Norman Jr. on December 24th, 2012. Norm Jr. put the interview to writing and posted it to Ella’s profile in his Stulz-Shepherd Family Tree located on ancestry.com. Norm Sr.’s grandchildren did get to see the video of Ella and her life…27 years after he recorded it for them. Thanks for doing that Dad.
This article appeared in the Traverse City Record-Eagle on 3 Feb 1998, to mark Ella's 105th birthday:
'An exceptional person'
Ella Wooll celebrates her 105th birthday
By MARTA HEPLER DRAHOS
Record-Eagle staff writer
TRAVERSE CITY - Ella Wooll has lived through the inauguration of 19 presidents. Through the Spanish-American War. Through prohibition, the women's suffrage movement and the first successful flight of the Wright brothers.
Not all the history that's passed in the last century has been good, but as Wooll turned 105 Monday, she took a philosophical view.
"You can't change what has happened years ago," the great-great-grandmother said.
Wooll, who now lives at Buffenbarger's adult foster care home in Traverse City, was born in Anson, Maine in 1893. Benjamin Harrison was just leaving office and Grover Cleveland was about to become president for the second time.
One of her earliest memories is of a Model-T Ford that came to her family's farm.
"There was no top," she recalled. "There was a little drop seat in the front, no seat belt, you just had to hang on."
When she was 17, Wooll's father bought the Hilton and Mosier Sawmill in Lake Leelanau and moved the family to northern Michigan. Their home, built by Wooll's grandfather in about 1858, now is occupied by a Lake Leelanau gift shop, Out on a Limb.
In 1915 Wooll married barber Judson Wooll and the couple moved to Detroit. They had two children, daughter Betty, a former secretary in Elk Rapids, and son Alfred, a research engineer in Dexter, Mich.
When she wasn't raising a family, Wooll worked for Michigan Bell and for the Detroit Board of Education, where she was in charge of the bindery. She volunteered with the American Red Cross blood bank and was active in church and literary clubs.
Judson Wooll died in 1952 and Wooll has been a widow ever since. She's also outlived all five of her brothers and sisters. Her children will be 73 and 81 this year.
Lately her eyesight has been failing a bit, Wooll said, and she has arthritis in her shoulder and hip. But otherwise her health is good. Up until last year, she drove herself everywhere.
"I have no idea why I'm living so long, but I feel well so long as my health is concerned," she said.
On Sunday Wooll's friends and family gathered at Kewadin United Methodist Church to celebrate the milestone birthday. Wooll has been attending the church - even sitting in the same seat every week - since retiring to the Elk Rapids area in 1980.
"She's an exceptional person, really well-loved," said the Rev. Ray Sundell. "I think that people are just encouraged that she can be 105 years old and have such a keen mind and still have a good sense of humor."
"Her philosophy in life is that she never worries because she's in good hands," said church friend Vivian Cooley of Elk Rapids.
As she reflected on her life so far, Wooll said she's left nothing undone. Except perhaps an afghan or two.
"I've worked hard all my life," she said. "I've enjoyed life, been happy with everything, had my own car, traveled. I can't change anything, so I'm just accepting what I've had and just enjoying my life."
Events
Families
| Spouse | Judson Orville WOOLL (1884 - 1953) |
| Child | Living |
| Child | William W. WOOLL (1918 - 1918) |
| Child | WOOLL (1922 - 1922) |
| Child | Living |
| Father | Calvin E. HILTON (1867 - 1941) |
| Mother | Amelia MOSIER (1863 - 1950) |
| Sibling | Lewis Mosier HILTON (1898 - 1985) |
Notes
Census (family)
Enumerated with this family were Judson Wool, age 36, a barber; his wife, Ella, age 26; and son, Alfred, age 2.http://interactive.ancestry.com/6061/4311643-00951?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fsearch%2fdb.aspx%3fdbid%3d6061%26path%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnBrowsing#?imageId=4311643-00953
Census (family)
Enumerated with this family were Judson O. Wooll, age 46, the proprietor of a barber shop; his wife, Ella F, age 37; and children: Alfred C, age 13; and Betty J. age 4 years and 11 months.http://interactive.ancestry.com/6224/4609307_00571?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fsearch%2fdb.aspx%3fdbid%3d6224%26path%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnBrowsing#?imageId=4609307_00643
Census (family)
Enumerated with this family were Judson Wooll, age 56, a barber/proprietor; his wife, Ella, age 45; and children: Alfred C (absent), age 23; and Betty Jane, age 14. Also Judson's father, Irwin Wooll, widowed, age 82, born in Ohio.https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-27892-8438-47?cc=2000219&wc=9RWF-79J:790103601,796947201,803080501,803088701
Endnotes
1. 1900 U.S. Federal Census, , population, Maine, Somerset, Anson, enumeration district (ED) 142, sheet 17B, image 34, dwelling 386, family 420, lines 61-66, Calvin Hilton and household; digital images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1325221 : accessed 2 April 2015); National Archives and Records Administration.
2. 1910 U.S. Federal Census, , population, Maine, Somerset, Madison, enumeration district (ED) 230, sheet 20B, image 40, dwelling 333, family 428, lines 73-75, Amelia Hilton and children; digital images, Ancestry.com (http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=7884 : accessed 2 May 2015); National Archives Records Administration.
3. Social Security Death Index, Ella F. Wooll.
4. , Find A Grave, photographs and extracted information (findagrave.com : accessed 3 May 2015), Ella Frances Wooll; memorial #26442185.
5. "Maine, Vital Records, 1670-1907," database and images online, FamilySearch.org ( : accessed 5 May 2015), Hilton; State Board of Health, Augusta; GS Film 9963, digital folder 004544474, image 03936.
6. "Michigan, Marriages, 1868-1925," online images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1452395 : accessed 2 May 2015), digital folder 4209293, image 191, record 1264: Judson Orville Wooll and Ella Frances Hilton.
7. "Michigan, County Marriages, 1820-1940," digital images, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch.org (https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1810350 : accessed 2 May 2015), Leelanau; Marriages, 1887-1929, v. 2; image 188, record 1264: Judson Orville Wooll and Ella Frances Hilton.
8. 1920 U.S. Federal Census, , population, Michigan, Wayne, Detroit, Ward 4, enumeration district (ED) 146, sheets 1B-2A, images 2-3, dwelling 15, family 19, lines 100 and 1-2, Judson Wooll family, boarders in household of Joseph P. Wright; digital images, Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 2 May 2015); National Archives and Records Administration.
9. 1930 U.S. Federal Census, , population, Michigan, Wayne, Detroit (Districts 751-879), enumeration district (ED) 82-836, sheet 37A, image 61, dwelling 96, family 156, lines 26-29, Judson O. Wooll and family; digital images, Ancestry.com (http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=6224 : accessed 3 May 2015); National Archives and Records Administration.
10. 1940 U.S. Federal Census, , population schedule, Michigan, Wayne, Detroit, Ward 22, enumeration district (ED) 84-1560A, sheet 4A, image 7, household 82, lines 13-17, Judson Wool and family; digital images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/1940census : accessed 3 May 2015); National Archives and Records Administration.
11. Social Security Death Index, Ella F. Wooll.
12. , Find A Grave, photographs and extracted information (findagrave.com : accessed 3 May 2015), Ella Frances Wooll; memorial #26442185.
13. , Find A Grave, photographs and extracted information (findagrave.com : accessed 3 May 2015), Ella Frances Wooll; memorial #26442185.

