Individual Details

Al "Fred" Gibbs

(4 Dec 1848 - 28 Dec 1913)

checked IGI 8/29/07
1 _FA1 2 PLAC Obituary says died in town of Shattuck, OK 1 _FA2 2 PLAC which is in Ellis Co.


Alfred Page GIBBS is listed in the 1880 census as living in WashingtonCo. IN and living with wife Emma H & children Clarence W., Arthur A., &Annie M. (1 y.o.). The 1900 census shows the family in Sullivan, IN andwife then Cora E.=B: July 1857 which corellates exactly as to what weknow about Louis Wm. PERSINGER's wife except that on the 1880 census, hiswife was listed as Elizabeth C.! I assume this is the same person but itis difficult to be sure. In 1900 the children living with them were hissons James & Alva, his stepsons Clarence & Asa Persinger (of Cora E.+L.W.Persinger), & daughter Grace (my Grandmother). Asa (spelling?) is listedas a dentist @ age 20! & should have been born of Elizabeth C. PERSINGER.Alva must have been the only surviving child born of these two parents (2girls died in infancy) since he is listed as born in 1893. James &Grace's Mother was the late Emma H. PERSINGER. As yet I have notdiscovered where Alfred, & Cora E. are buried, but Malcolm insists thathis mother took him to the Center Ridge Cemetary in Sullivan because thatis where she claimed the step-Father &/or Mother was buried; however hevaguely recalls they could not find the grave. Alfred is also listed inthe 1860 census in Washington Co. IN & says was born in Ohio which isconsistent with other records; however that census says he was born in1849 not 1848. Since George allegedly was in Cincinnati I suspect thisis Alfred's birthplace. Beatrice (GIBBS) SUTTER says she thinks Alfredhad TB and went to live his final days in Oklahoma with Oliver Gibbs &family and is likely buried there, probably near the town of Knowles orShattuck. Also he may have been in town of Elmwood, near Knowles or Ihave discovered an Obituary that says he died in Shattuck, OK which is inthe next County to the East. I doubt that Alfred was buried in Indianabut it is likely that both of his wives are.
Oct. 1992 - I have now located Emma's grave @ Walnut Ridge Cem.(Jefferson Twp. Washington Co.) (next to the grave of her brother LouisWilliam Persinger); Interestingly the tall monument clearly has her namewith the B&D dates but also has Alfred's name with no dates. At the topof the monument is carved "OUR PARENTS". I am certain that Alfred is notburied there. I have found an obituary from the Salem Republican LeaderJan 9, 1914 which erroneously states he died when he was visiting hisSON? O.G. Gibbs in Shattuck, OK. (Oliver G. was his brother not son) Italso gives the birth year as 1844! It also says his surviving 2nd wifeis the daugh. of the late John Johnson of Jefferson Twp. who it sayssurvived him. Funeral services were conducted in Shattuck, OK by Rev.W.F. Ribelin "an old friend of the deceased". This is the 1st evidencesuggesting the maiden name (JOHNSON) and heritage of his 2nd wife(presumably Louis Wm. Persinger's only wife)....but it would have to bequestioned, if for no other reason then the fact that there were so manyKNOWN errors in the obituary report (I wonder who supplied thatinformation to the paper?) I hope to visit Shattuck and the adjacentBeaver Co., OK soon. Unfortunately there were at least 2 different JohnJohnson's in Washington Co. in that era and I'm having difficultydetermining more details about Elizabeth Cora Gibbs-Persinger. (see PgDnon her name).
July 1994 - Just visited Shattuck, Oklahoma & talked with PhillisBallew, Grandaughter of Oliver Grant Gibbs. She showed me the area ofOliver's home they have renovated where Alfred died. Also she has manyletters written about the time Alfred died...From George Gibbs' daughterNellie and from Arthur Anthony Gibbs. This letter suggests that CoraElizabeth & Alfred P. were living in the Lathrop, MO area near or withArthur Anthony Gibbs and then had been living in Topeka, Kansas in 1913before Alfred spent some time in Oklahoma visiting between son JamesGibbs in nearby Beaver County and with Alfred's brother Oliver. It nowis certain (according to the City Clerk who shows Alfred buried in theOddfellows/Shattuck Cemetary next to Oliver & family who all died muchlater....but there is no stone or any kind of marker at the gravesite,which probably relates to the fact that none of them had any money inthat era, although I suspect later Oliver did gain a much better income(he died 40 years after his older brother Alfred). So it appears thatCora & Alfred were both buried without a gravestone headmarker, but indifferent states. I have later discovered that I now have 2 photos ofAlfred, the 2nd one is with a wife a child of approximately one year ofage. I don't know which wife that is, but she looks very much like thephotos of the first one which is Emma Harriet Persinger (my ancestor). Imight be able to determine this by researching the date the listedphotographer was in business in Salem, IN.

Events

Birth4 Dec 1848Cincinnati, Ohio
Marriage24 Jan 1870Washington, Indiana - Emily Harriet "Emma" Persinger
Marriage1 Mar 1888Elizabeth Cora Johnson
Death28 Dec 1913Shattuck (Ellis County), Oklahoma, United States

Families

SpouseEmily Harriet "Emma" Persinger (1849 - 1885)
SpouseElizabeth Cora Johnson (1857 - 1915)

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