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Johannes Roschmann
(1677 - 1743)
See notes from Kathy Childs study. See e-mail from Sharon Reck dated 16 Mar 2003.
Johannes Roschmann came from the Lower Palatinate, near Mannheim, in the Holy Roman Empire. Catholics and Protestants were fighting and the weather was extremely cold. About 30,000 Palatines immigrated to the American Colonies around 1709. Johannes arrived in NYC on 14 June 1710 with his wife Anna Elizabeth and dau Maria Catharin. His son George had died on the boat and was buried at sea, according to family tradition. They sailed on the "Lyon" from Rotterdam, Holland. Johannes moved with his family to Hunterstown, NY, where in 1711 he became a soldier in the Palatines Volunteers to Canada. He was naturalized 22 Nov 1715 in Albany, NY. He was on the roll of the Independent Company of the Manor of Livingston on 30 Nov 1715 and was listed as a Palatine debtor on the Livingston Debt Lists in 1718, 1719, 1721 and 1726. He was listed as a freeholder in the North part of Livingston in 1720. Family data also from Kathy Childs. Some of this data also appears in Henry Jones' "Palatine Families of New York, 1710" Vol. 2 pages 800-802. He adds that Johannes "Roschmannd" appeared on the Hunter Lists on 30 Jun 1710 with 2 people over 10 and 1 under. The family was in MYC in 1710/11 comprised of Johannes 33, Anna Elizabeth 30, and Maria Cath 9. By 25 March 1712, there were 2 people under 10 in the family. Johannes was a soldier in 1711 and by occupation was a carpenter.
1720 child Agnes Flora born 12 Apr 1720 in Taarboss and christened 24 Apr 1720 among the Germans in the Central Camp on the east bank of the Hudson River, child of Johan Johan Rosman and wife Elisab. Witnesses were Emmerich Plus and Agnes Flora per "Year Book of the Holland Society of NY 1901" page 77 at the LAFHC.
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Birthdate: 1677
Birthplace: Palatine, Germany
Death: 1743 (66)
Livingston, New York, United States
Immediate Family:
Husband of Anna Roschmann
Father of Johann Conrad Roschman; Maria Catharina Petri; Anna Elisabetha Bont; Maria Magdalena Kuhns; Agnes Flora Brasy and 2 others
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Last Updated: November 4, 2014
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Georg Roschman son
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Lida C. Rossman included a brief historical account of Johannes Roschmann in her 1990 booklet on the Michigan Rossman Generations. I'll begin by simply copying what she wrote, but I have found out more details on the Web, which I would like to include in this at a later date. I am modifying the notes based on information sent to me from Ed Rossman.
In the late 18th Century, the Palatine region of Germany was a rough place to live. Religious revolution and the coldest Winter in 100 years created a huge humanitarian crisis. England had long provided charitable assistance to the region. Now, they offered the Palatines a chance at new lives in various colonies of the British Empire. 30,000 Palatines accepted the British offer, immigrating out of Germany over the next few years.
Johannes Roschmann was born in 1677 and Anna Elizabetha in 1680, based on an immigration report, which listed their ages as 33 and 31, respectively, in 1710. According to family tradition, they came from the Palatine (Pfaltz) region of Germany, reportedly near the town of Manheim. Johannes married Anna Elizabetha (Drumm?) in Bavaria, Germany.
Johannes and Elizabetha were in a group of 2,814 Palatines (Letter by Governor Hunter - October 24, 1710) that set sail for New York from England in 1710. 470 died on their voyage to New York [Knittle 148] with 30 births. According to family tradition, Johanne's son, George, died on the boat in transit. Johannes arrived in New York City on June 13, 1710 on the ship, Lyon of Leith, (Palatine Roots, Nancy Wagoner Dixon, Picton Press 1994) accompanied by his wife and daughter, Maria Catharin. The Lyon was the first of 11 vessels to land in New York, and the boats averaged 256 Palatines each. Upon arrival in New York, they were quarantined on Nutten Island (now Governor's Island) and places outside the city, with a disease the local doctors called "Palatine fever."
Anna Elizabetha, who was Episcopalian, joined the West Camp Lutheran Church July 19, 1710. Johannes moved with his family to Hunterstown, NY where in 1711 he became a soldier in the Palatine volunteers to Canada. Johannes was naturalized November 22, 1715 - Albany NY Naturalizations. Johannes was on the roll of the Indpendent Companie of the Mannor of Livingston on November 30, 1715. He was listed as a Palatine debtor on the Livingston Debt Lists in the years of 1718, 1719, 1721, 1722 and 1726. Johannes was listed as a freeholder in the Northpart of Livingston in 1720. In 1734, Pastor Berkenmeyer recorded in the Albany Protocol the following verbal exchange between Johannes Rosman and Pastor Spahler:
Mr. Johannes Rosman was called in so that we might learn how the Germans at the [Livingston] Camp took the Church Council's letter. He [Johannes] reported that Pastor Spahler upon reading the letter said "Do you not see that Berkenmeyer wants to be my superintendent? Do you not see how he abuses the Scriptures?" When they came to the part about the Church Constitution, Johannes Rosman stated that that would be no more than right, to which Pastor Spahler replied, "Johannes Rosman you keep quiet." Continuing the reading of the letter, Pastor Spahler said, "This is devilish" and others joined in with such cursing that Mr. Rosman left. Since a letter had come from Pastor Knoll of NY addressed to the Germans, this was given to Mr. Rosman to deliver to them. [The German Palatines at Livingston Manor, NY]
Johannes Roschmann came from the Lower Palatinate, near Mannheim, in the Holy Roman Empire. Catholics and Protestants were fighting and the weather was extremely cold. About 30,000 Palatines immigrated to the American Colonies around 1709. Johannes arrived in NYC on 14 June 1710 with his wife Anna Elizabeth and dau Maria Catharin. His son George had died on the boat and was buried at sea, according to family tradition. They sailed on the "Lyon" from Rotterdam, Holland. Johannes moved with his family to Hunterstown, NY, where in 1711 he became a soldier in the Palatines Volunteers to Canada. He was naturalized 22 Nov 1715 in Albany, NY. He was on the roll of the Independent Company of the Manor of Livingston on 30 Nov 1715 and was listed as a Palatine debtor on the Livingston Debt Lists in 1718, 1719, 1721 and 1726. He was listed as a freeholder in the North part of Livingston in 1720. Family data also from Kathy Childs. Some of this data also appears in Henry Jones' "Palatine Families of New York, 1710" Vol. 2 pages 800-802. He adds that Johannes "Roschmannd" appeared on the Hunter Lists on 30 Jun 1710 with 2 people over 10 and 1 under. The family was in MYC in 1710/11 comprised of Johannes 33, Anna Elizabeth 30, and Maria Cath 9. By 25 March 1712, there were 2 people under 10 in the family. Johannes was a soldier in 1711 and by occupation was a carpenter.
1720 child Agnes Flora born 12 Apr 1720 in Taarboss and christened 24 Apr 1720 among the Germans in the Central Camp on the east bank of the Hudson River, child of Johan Johan Rosman and wife Elisab. Witnesses were Emmerich Plus and Agnes Flora per "Year Book of the Holland Society of NY 1901" page 77 at the LAFHC.
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Birthdate: 1677
Birthplace: Palatine, Germany
Death: 1743 (66)
Livingston, New York, United States
Immediate Family:
Husband of Anna Roschmann
Father of Johann Conrad Roschman; Maria Catharina Petri; Anna Elisabetha Bont; Maria Magdalena Kuhns; Agnes Flora Brasy and 2 others
Managed by: Richard Alexander, Jr
Last Updated: November 4, 2014
View Complete Profile view all Immediate Family
Anna Roschmann wife
Johann Conrad Roschman son
Maria Catharina Petri daughter
Anna Elisabetha Bont daughter
Maria Magdalena Kuhns daughter
Agnes Flora Brasy daughter
Georg Roschman son
Johannes Roschman, Jr. son About Johannes Roschmann
https://www.geni.com/people/Johannes-Roschmann/4917439440480073679
Lida C. Rossman included a brief historical account of Johannes Roschmann in her 1990 booklet on the Michigan Rossman Generations. I'll begin by simply copying what she wrote, but I have found out more details on the Web, which I would like to include in this at a later date. I am modifying the notes based on information sent to me from Ed Rossman.
In the late 18th Century, the Palatine region of Germany was a rough place to live. Religious revolution and the coldest Winter in 100 years created a huge humanitarian crisis. England had long provided charitable assistance to the region. Now, they offered the Palatines a chance at new lives in various colonies of the British Empire. 30,000 Palatines accepted the British offer, immigrating out of Germany over the next few years.
Johannes Roschmann was born in 1677 and Anna Elizabetha in 1680, based on an immigration report, which listed their ages as 33 and 31, respectively, in 1710. According to family tradition, they came from the Palatine (Pfaltz) region of Germany, reportedly near the town of Manheim. Johannes married Anna Elizabetha (Drumm?) in Bavaria, Germany.
Johannes and Elizabetha were in a group of 2,814 Palatines (Letter by Governor Hunter - October 24, 1710) that set sail for New York from England in 1710. 470 died on their voyage to New York [Knittle 148] with 30 births. According to family tradition, Johanne's son, George, died on the boat in transit. Johannes arrived in New York City on June 13, 1710 on the ship, Lyon of Leith, (Palatine Roots, Nancy Wagoner Dixon, Picton Press 1994) accompanied by his wife and daughter, Maria Catharin. The Lyon was the first of 11 vessels to land in New York, and the boats averaged 256 Palatines each. Upon arrival in New York, they were quarantined on Nutten Island (now Governor's Island) and places outside the city, with a disease the local doctors called "Palatine fever."
Anna Elizabetha, who was Episcopalian, joined the West Camp Lutheran Church July 19, 1710. Johannes moved with his family to Hunterstown, NY where in 1711 he became a soldier in the Palatine volunteers to Canada. Johannes was naturalized November 22, 1715 - Albany NY Naturalizations. Johannes was on the roll of the Indpendent Companie of the Mannor of Livingston on November 30, 1715. He was listed as a Palatine debtor on the Livingston Debt Lists in the years of 1718, 1719, 1721, 1722 and 1726. Johannes was listed as a freeholder in the Northpart of Livingston in 1720. In 1734, Pastor Berkenmeyer recorded in the Albany Protocol the following verbal exchange between Johannes Rosman and Pastor Spahler:
Mr. Johannes Rosman was called in so that we might learn how the Germans at the [Livingston] Camp took the Church Council's letter. He [Johannes] reported that Pastor Spahler upon reading the letter said "Do you not see that Berkenmeyer wants to be my superintendent? Do you not see how he abuses the Scriptures?" When they came to the part about the Church Constitution, Johannes Rosman stated that that would be no more than right, to which Pastor Spahler replied, "Johannes Rosman you keep quiet." Continuing the reading of the letter, Pastor Spahler said, "This is devilish" and others joined in with such cursing that Mr. Rosman left. Since a letter had come from Pastor Knoll of NY addressed to the Germans, this was given to Mr. Rosman to deliver to them. [The German Palatines at Livingston Manor, NY]
Events
| Birth | 1677 | Lower Palatinat, near Mannheim, Holly Roman Empire |  |  | |
| Marriage | Germany - Anna Elizabeth ? | | |||
| Living | 1710 - 11 | New York City, British America | | ||
| The family left Germany on ship 'Lyon' and arrived in New York on June 14, 1710 | 1710 | Family included Johanas, his wife Anna Elizabeth b. 1680, and children George, Conrad, and Maria Catherine. George died on ocean. - Germany | |||
| Immigration | 14 Jun 1710 | on the ship "Lyon" from Rotterdam, Holland with his family, New York, New York, British America | | ||
| Living | 1712 - 1734 | Livingston Manor, New York, British America | | ||
| Occupation | 1712 | carpenter | | ||
| Living | Tarboss, Columbia Co., NY | ||||
| Death | 1743 | Livingston, New York, British America | | ||
| LDS Family Tree ID | GMR1-VD1 | ||||
| WikiTree | Roschmann-9 |
Families
| Spouse | Anna Elizabeth ? (1680 - ) |
| Child | Maria Catharina Roschmann (1701 - ) |
| Child | George Roschamann (1703 - 1710) |
| Child | Johannes Conrad Roschmann (1711 - 1780) |
| Child | Anna Elizabeth Roschmann (1714 - ) |
| Child | Maria Magdelena Roschmann (1717 - ) |
| Child | Agnetta Flora "Roschman" Rossman (1720 - 1790) |
| Child | Jury "George" Roschman (1721 - 1783) |
| Child | Johannes Roschmann Jr. (1725 - ) |
Notes
Birth
!The Palatine Families of New York, 1710 by Henry Z Jones, Jr. Volume 1 & 2 & New York Genealogical and Biographical Records: Johannes Roschmann made his initial appearance on the Hunter Lists 30 June 1710 with 1 pers. over 10 yrs. and 1 pers. under 10 yrs. of age. The family was recorded with 2 pers. over 10 and 2 under 10 on 25 March 1712. Johannes Roschman aged 33, Anna Elizabeth Roschman aged 30, and Maria Cath Roschman aged 9, were in New York City in 1710/1711 (Palatines in N.Y. City). Johannes Roschman of Hunterstown was a soldier in 1711 (Palatine Volunteers To Canada).He was called a carpenter in several papers dated 1712 (N.Y. Col. Mss., Vol. 58, pp. 58b & 58d). A long letter regarding Johannes Rosschmann and Andreas Trum dated 24 Oct 1712 is in Reel #3 of the Livingston Papers. Johannis Rousman was nat. 22 Nov 1715 (Albany Nats.). Johannis Rosman was on the roll of the Independent Companie of the Mannor of Livingston 30 Nov 1715 (Report of the State Historian, Vol. I, p. 522).Johannes Rossmann with wife and ch. was at Hunderston ca. 1716/17 (Sinnendinger Register). Johannes was a Palatine Debtor in 1718, 1719, 1720, 1722, and 1726 (Livingston Debt Lists). Johannis Roseman was a freeholder in the Northpart Livingston in 1720 (Albany Co. Freeholders). Reel #4 or the Livingston Papers mentions the Roschman was noted in a letter from Philip Livingston to Robt. Livingston 6 Sept. 1725: on this same reel is a note from Joh: Roschmann dated 1726. He signed a petition to the Hamburg Ministerium 23 Oct 1726 at Camp (Luth. Church in N.Y.and N.J., p. 12). Pastor Berkenmeyer recorded in Albany Protocol in 1734, p. 85: Mr. Joh. Rosman was called in, so that we might learn how the Germans (at the Camp) took the Church Council's letter. He reported that Pastor (Spahler) upon reading the letter said, 'Do you not see that B(erkenmeyer) wants to be my superintendent? Do you not see how he abuses the Scriptures?' When they came to the (part about the) church constit ution, Hannes Rosman stated that that would be no more than right to which Pastor (Spahler) replied, 'H(annes) R(osman),you keep quiet. 'Continuing the reading of letter, Pastor (Spahler) said, 'This is devilish,' and others joined in with such cursing that Mr. Rosman left. Since a letter had come from Pastor (Knoll) of N.Y., addressed to the Germans, this was given to Mr. Rosman to deliver to them. The family of Johannes Roschmann was enterd on the St. Peter's Luth. Family List ca. 1734 (Rhinebeck Luth. Chbk.). Johannes md. Anna Elisabetha (--)(HJ); Anna Elisbetha Roschman, Epis., joined the church at N.Y. 19 July 171l (West Camp Luth. Chbk.).Death
Source: Wiki Tree Poschmann-9.Endnotes
1. Henry Z. Jones, The Palatine families of New York : a study of the German immigrants who arrived in colonial New York in 1710, 2 volumes (Universal City, California: LA Family History Center Library (LDS), 1985), Vol. 2 page 800.
2. Henry Z. Jones, The Palatine families of New York : a study of the German immigrants who arrived in colonial New York in 1710, 2 volumes (Universal City, California: LA Family History Center Library (LDS), 1985), Vol. 2 page 800.
3. Henry Z. Jones, The Palatine families of New York : a study of the German immigrants who arrived in colonial New York in 1710, 2 volumes (Universal City, California: LA Family History Center Library (LDS), 1985), Vol. 2 page 800.
4. Henry Z. Jones, The Palatine families of New York : a study of the German immigrants who arrived in colonial New York in 1710, 2 volumes (Universal City, California: LA Family History Center Library (LDS), 1985), Vol. 2 page 800.
5. Henry Z. Jones, The Palatine families of New York : a study of the German immigrants who arrived in colonial New York in 1710, 2 volumes (Universal City, California: LA Family History Center Library (LDS), 1985), Vol. 2 page 800.
6. Henry Z. Jones, The Palatine families of New York : a study of the German immigrants who arrived in colonial New York in 1710, 2 volumes (Universal City, California: LA Family History Center Library (LDS), 1985), Vol. 2 page 800.